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CallSignGrendel 5 points ago +6 / -1

Republicans weren’t confederates, southern Democrats were.

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1andrac3 [S] 3 points ago +5 / -2

Oh i'm not speaking of the political party, i'm speaking of the matter of succession and revolution, if Trump is not sworn in as President.

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CallSignGrendel 4 points ago +4 / -0

He will be the president. The DoD stopped the transition to Biden.

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ghost_of_aswartz 0 points ago +2 / -2

Well, you're wrong again

It's THEY that needs to suceed, NOT us

We want the government we signed up for, one based on teh constititon

The confederates are the ones that are going against the constitution

You unfortuantely have everything here wrong. I am sorry, and I dont' fault you. You've been confused by fakenews

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1andrac3 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Actually, this isn't accurate the confederates were not going against the constitution as the North implemented harsh unfair taxes on exports for southern goods and therefore impeding the free market forcing the south to sell it's raw materials to Northern Factories.

The merits of Slavery doesn't make sense, considering if Lincoln had wanted to free the Slaves from the very Beginning, Why did he wait three years into the most bloodiest war that, almost destroyed the very Union itself? Why not enacted the emancipation proclamation from Day 1?

Lincoln actions confirms many historians ideals that the many Southern States outside of South Carolina (really upset about slavery lol) viewed this not as a Union all following the constitutions, but more as a dictatorship led by a few corrupt states.

This concept, is exactly the argument Texas made to SCOTUS and they didn't want to hear, that's why I will be whistling Dixie come 1/6/21.

Not too sure about American Educational Institutions....

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AmericanMonarchist 0 points ago +2 / -2

The only similarity between Democrats of the 1860s and Democrats of the 21st century are the name. Confederates supported:

  • States rights

  • Rule by Culture

  • Emphasizing Tradition

  • Agrarianism over the anonymity and degeneracy of urban living

Conservatives have more in common with them than we ever did with the Party of Lincoln.

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CallSignGrendel 2 points ago +2 / -0

I see. Isn’t Lincoln the reason we have a two party system? I also read he would of kept the union together with or without freeing the slaves.

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Scooby721 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes. Lincoln was losing for most of the early part of the war. He finally declaring that slavery should be abolished, was a strategic move to motivate the union troops, which had many freed slaves in their ranks. He also though that the promise of freedom would motivate the slaves in the south to revolt against their owners. It worked.

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AmericanMonarchist 1 point ago +1 / -0

Isn’t Lincoln the reason we have a two party system?

I cannot attest to that specifically, but he is at the root of many of problems. He is the reason that the United States became a centralized state over a union of states like the founding fathers intended.

I also read he would of kept the union together with or without freeing the slaves.

You are correct in this. He felt that way because the Civil War was never about slavery. It was about centralizing power, and it was about saving the failing Northern economy.

The South was an agrarian economy that provided raw materials; the North was an industrial economy that took those raw materials, finished them into textiles and other goods, and then sold them overseas. The South, realizing that its goods fetched better prices in England and mainland Europe, began selling directly overseas and receiving higher prices. This sustained Southern independence from the North and frustrated Northern manufacturers, who realized that there was great profit in buying low and selling high.

To counter that, the North imposed a number of tariffs on European goods, and Europe raised reciprocal tariffs in response. This forced the South to sell its goods to the North at reduced prices; when America raised her tariffs, other nations raised theirs to American goods, and so the only market was domestic. However, the Walker Tariff Act of 1846 lowered tariffs, in part to pacify British concern over the borders that were drawn for Oregon earlier that year. That meant the South could keep its economy.

In response, Northern politicians paired up with industry and came up with a compromise: the forerunners of today’s liberals objected to slavery on a moral basis, and so this aegis of righteousness could be adopted in order to conceal the financial motivations behind the desire to crush the South. That ideological crusade then became the pretext, or excuse, for war. Northern taxation, tariffs and other impositions upon the South which were designed to crush its industry, which would then allow it to be purchased and controlled by Northern industry, which wanted vertical integration of its industry, much of which (including textiles) used the raw output of Southern agriculture.

TLDR: Slavery was a touch stone for the war, not the cause. Fat cats provoked the war to shatter the southern economy and vertically integrate Southern plantations into their industries. The War of Southern Secession had as much to do with slavery as the American War of Independence had to do with tea.

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ghost_of_aswartz 0 points ago +1 / -1

The only thing that this movement cares about at this point, which is a common denominator, is equal justice under the law and for our government to follow its own rules as defined by the constitution

You cannot paint this maga movement as homogenious except for JUSTICE

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AmericanMonarchist 3 points ago +3 / -0

The United States is divided between rural traditionalists and the urban masses who look down upon them. Leading those Urban Masses are fat cat tyrants who desire power for power's sake. They see profit in destroying the rural way of life and forcing everyone to live in anonymous cities. The fat cats try to shoe horn their puppet president in despite not a single one of these traditional peoples voting for him. The traditionalists just want to live the way the Founding Fathers intended and thus start talking about secession. This is America in 1860.

We have a lot in common with Dixie. The War of Northern Aggression never truly ended. Let us hope it ends better for us this go around.

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Les_Deplorables 2 points ago +2 / -0

The Battle Flag of Northern Virginia.

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ghost_of_aswartz 2 points ago +2 / -0

Actually, the DEEPSTATE and the CIA are the confederates

You have it wrong

Sorry

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1andrac3 [S] 2 points ago +3 / -1

1/6/21*

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1andrac3 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Manaus, Brazil.

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jetspeak 1 point ago +1 / -0

What country brother? I fled Obama’s America as an economic refugee to Chile.

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borscht-nazi 1 point ago +3 / -2

Oh, look, another immigrant democrat, exactly what this country needs.

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1andrac3 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

ROFL.

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TDCRedpill 1 point ago +1 / -0

Son, you smell like a fucker meant to come in and paint us as confederate. GFY. Americans won the old civil war over the confederates, and Trump won on Nov 3rd.

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1andrac3 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

LOL, for a person that's allegedly redpill, you sure don't know shit about your own history. If you've only now seen the massive disinfo that's running against trump, I guess all the other times they (elites) were telling the truth.

Bro, the civil war is the war of northern aggression. Until you understand the complexities you'll be one of those clowns talking about renaming the forts to BLM names?

These Communist are destroying American history, which is genocide.

If I were you, an alledged red pill patriot, I'd unfuck myself real quick and learn the truth about the War of Northern Aggression.

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tufftoffee 0 points ago +2 / -2

Godspeed.