posted ago by Veritas1776
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I showed this to a few of my local patriot friends and got good reviews so I wanted to share it here. This is my first time making a video and I plan to make more so I would love to get some feedback. My goal is to encourage a smarter conversation among us about how to we get better at red pilling NPCs and thinking about the problems we face to make the MAGA movement more successful. If you are interested in this stuff, please reach out.
[The Stupid Conversation](https://youtu.be/wBGAhfVYuyU)
I showed this to a few of my local patriot friends and got good reviews so I wanted to share it here. This is my first time making a video and I plan to make more so I would love to get some feedback. My goal is to encourage a smarter conversation among us about how to we get better at red pilling NPCs and thinking about the problems we face to make the MAGA movement more successful. If you are interested in this stuff, please reach out.
damn floor shitters!
Lol. They are making a huge mess for everyone else to clean up!
Otherwise known as reverse psychology. Good video
the audio clipped here and there. that's ok tho you'll figure it out now that you know. i like the title cuz it is indeed stupid and the video was good! you can only improve from here if you are trying and this is a good place to start.
i dont agree with the take the neutral stance thing although i see the strategy is meant to keep their guard down. i think its not necessary, and you know this because of how you opened, to engage with ppl who are more interested in their emotional state and virtue signaling than sharing and exploring nuanced (man im getting sick of this word..) ideas. i do see the strategy but that could come off as disingenuous if the stance does come out. you may have heard this statement: facts dont care about your feelings and feelings dont care about your facts
the message i saw was be kind and respectful and thats a biggest deal for peaceful discourse. :)
recommendation for you if you plan on making another: the most common logical fallacies explored during this election cycle (any) pilled people use. useful resource should you choose to accept it: https://www.logicalfallacies.org/
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. I used Descript edit the audio and had to record some parts that didn't sound the same. And some parts I probably would have recorded but I was more focused on getting something out than it being perfect. I agree that it should get better with time.
The opening of the video is obviously a little different then how I would talk with people but I can see your point that it is a little contradictory to my main message of be nice. I was going for a bit of humor but I think it is good for me to stay on message.
There is definitely more I want to get into and talking about logical fallacies is indeed interesting.
Cheers
you're priorities seem in order to me. and i dont mean be nice. i mean be kind. research the etymology of those two words. precision in language is important more-so now that you're embarking on this media journey. let the humor come naturally. its best to play in the ideas for them to be funny. something will come to you light a lightbulb moment and take your time when able. force will feel constricting.
Exhibit A meme: https://thedonald.win/p/11ROCBlSEg/based-vegeta/c/ Exhibit B meme: https://thedonald.win/p/11ROCAdc0t/just-in-a-history-of-winter-macr/c/
we need to take out the media ground satellites
Its good, I believe in trying all methods. The neutral and asking questions tact certainly may by useful with some people.
Thanks for taking the time to check it out and leave a comment. Do you have other methods that have worked for you?
Wish I did. I have continually had the frustration you address when listing facts and evidence only to meet a wall. very frustrating when people agree NAFTA was bad, exporting industry is bad and relying on china is bad, but then they refuse to acknowledge only Trump has tried to do something.
Well done.
I like your strategy, but for those of us locked up by crazy politicians in blue states, our opportunities to meet new people who might believe we are politically neutral are well, not many (if any).
Unfortunately, my experience with the Socratic method with those I know who lean left, is crickets, followed by disconnect.
I have not tried the more general questions you recommend, but I am willing to, next opportunity I get.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks man. I'm also deep in blue territory so I totally get it. I honestly think lockdown helps them use news and social media to control the narrative because they don't get the chance to meet other people who might disagree.
I think it is not always easy to get liberals to engage with the Socratic method, but my main point is you want to increase your chances and I think this strategy works more when it can work.
Let me know how it goes.
thats why the chinese made zoom! :D
I like where you're going with this and I applaud your efforts.
If you would incorporate strategies for the continual goal post moving of the npc, and the whatabout-ism, I think that would be helpful too.
I think that deprogramming strategies for helping victims of cults or kidnappings, would be helpful here too. Since the media has basically programmed a kind of cult of npcs.
Nicely done pede!
Thanks! I agree that there is probably a lot of good information on how to talk with people in other areas and cult deprogramming is certainly worth looking into. I especially like Never Split the Difference by Christopher Voss who was a hostage negotiator and now teaches deal making. I also suspect some of my ideas for this video are actually drawn from my ehem purely academic interest in The Game by Neil Strauss from before I got hitched.
Hopefully goal post moving and what about ism isn't something you have to deal with using the Socratic method but my initial thought would be asking questions like: "what proof would convince you that ____?" Or in the what about ism case, just turn the question on them and ask "why do you think that would disapprove what I pointed out earlier?"
I'll certainly look into addressing higher level concepts more in future videos.
Ha ha, The Game. I have read that as well as some of the others from that time, like David Deangelo. Wish I had that info when I was in my 20s lol. I agree it does help in other areas of communication as well.
I watched some of Chris Voss videos but haven't gotten to his book yet. It is in my library list. I'll have to move it ahead.Thanks again for your good work.