Shapiro revealed himself as a grifter, doesn't wanna be deplatformed or didnt like trump enough to bother to address the fraud properly because a Biden presidency gives him 4 years of complaining content.
Crowder did go into the fraud a little more than shapiro, but has basically dissapeared, didnt really cover it as much as I had hoped he would.
Now all I watch are War Room and Salty Cracker. Any other recommendations?
No point in watching anything, in my humble opinion. No one but team Trump knows what's going on. Everything else is either disinformation or pure speculation. No reason to get spun up over that shit.
Great comment... So much unknown, sometimes its just best to spend time with family and friends. Only substantive thing most of us can do to call your reps, and if you can go to DC or any other protest on the 6th. Other than that dont waste time with things you can't control
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Crowder gained a major growth in viewership on election night. I've always been a fan of his but especially his live broadcast during debates and stuff. He covered the fraud in real time. I got a feeling from him the days and weeks after the election he felt a weight because of the new viewship. He didn't want to take that spot that Bannon and the war room have now. Maybe he can't be "Crowder" and joke when shit is serious and people needed real guidance. With all that said, he has been off air for a couple of weeks for the holidays. I haven't checked but he's probably coming back Monday
I think he’s been off for a Christmas/New Years break. Thats what i remember from the last episode.
good for him
Yeah, I belive they all take 2 weeks off at the end of the year. He has also hinted at making some big moves in the new year. Will be interesting to see what that amounts to.
He has done a lot, shown a lot, and keeps pushing forward. Held a rally in Michigan too
The Sekulow brothers have a thing on YouTube. It's informative.
Sekulow has been amazing. Totally pro-life, constitutional, and fucking brilliant. Has won many cases at scotus
I agree. I was enjoying Shapiro for a while. Never liked Crowder because he didn’t focus on issues enough for me. I’ve been consuming right-wing media for a long time and you need to understand some fundamental differences among the Shapiro’s, Breitbarts, Daily Caller, Crowder’s, and The old guard like Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, etc etc: The former focuses on culture where the belief is that politics is downstream of culture. The latter focuses on policy, educating people about Liberals and their policies, and not wading so much into the culture war. Breitbart was instrumental in trying to change the narrative that politics is downstream of culture and if you change the culture you can change politics. I disagree with that, and it hasn’t worked too much. Because look at it now. I’m an issues guy. I’m a historical guy. I’m a philosophical guy. I don’t give a shit about what Barbara Streisand is doing or says. I care about what policies the people who represent her makes. In other words, it’s a distraction from the real issues, in many ways. We got here by forgetting the issues. We know who we are. Shapiro lost me when he failed to discuss the statistical anomalies in the election to any great length. He’s a smart fucking dude, but he failed by not analyzing the data and trying to make sense of what really didn’t make sense. So I stopped.
I get where your coming from, so you probably aren't bens target audience. You may not care what celebs think, i sure as hell don't, but millions do... and that can move elections and policies. Though i think much less now because they have been exposed by those like shapiro and crowder.
As for the election stuff i have been waiting for a few to speak on it, i just believe there is way to much to process right now, too much disinformation mixed with the real stuff. Do you really think they would rig an election and make it easy to figure out what happened
Respectfully, I think you're a little misguided on the first point. Had celebrities had any clout with the public, much of their policies and politicians would have been elected. They haven't. They've been steadily losing for a long time. People just don't care, nor want to be lectured by these uneducated privileged assholes. That point simply isn't accurate. They haven't moved elections. Also, they have been exposed for much longer than those two. Conservatism has been around for a long time and pundits have been going at it just as long. I think Ben is absolutely Brilliant. He has a brilliant mind, and great way of communicating, but he failed on the election stuff.
There's actually not a lot of disinformation on election fraud, except from the media. A lot of it is out there and easily digestible. You have to go through it, but it's easy. Happy to offer some guidance in a private conversation as well. Also, this election fraud is easy to figure out because he beat them so bad and they had to make up massive quantities of fake votes to catch up. That's how they got caught.
Exactly what i was saying, we disagree on how much clout celebs have. It is almost unprovable, you say that no elections have been swayed due to celebs, but imagine how many more conservatives would win if they had more clout in culture. Celebs are very good at convincing the simple minded that republicans are evil.
Valid points but you’re giving them too much credit. It’s really the media. And education system.
I dont see much difference between media and celebs. And yes the education system is a big problem at all levels, but i put equal amounts or more blame on parenting. You can have the best schools, but it wont matter if you dont have parents at home instilling values... culture
As for election i tried to follow as much as i can but the other side is playing very good defense. In georgia i have no doubt signature matches were not done and many bad ballats were accepted and good ones thrown out, but we still need to prove it... i bet we never get an valid audit in foulton county.
In wisconson we need to scan enough social media accounts to prove these people weren't indefinitely confined, that takes time. And even if we do they will fight on each case.
Crowder tries to hard to overcome his flamboyance and it makes it worse. Shapiro himself projects a very weak position, although his arguments are generally sound. Both of their voices annoy the shit out of me.
x22 report is great. It is for Q anon people, but he mainly talks about what's going on, it's not a non-stop Q blabberfest. I would recommend them it if you need something to listen to.
Wasn’t Crowder going to Nevada to check out all the addresses that was supposedly “legit” to cast ballots from?
Was but for some reason or another they weren't able to make it haple..
I ditched my Daily Wire subscription, sadly. They loved talking about how we should mask to respect business requests, but never about how businesses were being bullied, harassed and forced into making patrons mask. I was only listening to Michael Knowles and he wasn’t asking enough questions, either. I had high hopes for Crowder. Guess Epoch Times will continue to be my go-to.
I like Thomas Wictor, Simon Parkes, Jeffrey Prather, Dr. Steve Turley.
Just watched my first one tonight, holy cow it's good stuff
Naturalnews.com Mike Adams situation updates
I am immensely enjoying this nyrainman video. Feel like it captures the whole arc of what's going on from the origins to the present.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/AS3194idI9wn/
Crowder did nothing but cover this until the holidays.
He's on your side.
Crowder takes a month off for Christmas and new year’s every year.
Infowars is the only other place I've seen constant coverage of the election fraud.
People's Pundit - Richard Baris, Its probably the best breakdown of election stuff out there right now. He has been on war room so you may be familiar already
No Agenda Podcast - No to much on election stuff, but they do destroy the media narrative on covid among other MSM crap.
Red Eagle Politics - found his youtube during election and found it very informative. See alot of potential here young and bright.
Crowder let's his team off for the holiday every year. They come back after new year.
Shapiro is an idiot, Crowder is fine, don’t know why he went AWOL though.
I don’t keep close tabs on him, save for the Change My Mind segments, but I’ve heard others say he disappears during Christmas-New Years for dedicated family time.
Ahh well that makes sense. Everyone deserves some time off for Christmas.
I member himnon the last episode of 20 that he was taking time for family and xmas.
He does so every year for the holidays until January.
I haven’t watched any political channels since the fraud was falsely claimed as official results. Waiting until justice is served and then I’ll start them again. Doesn’t feel right at the moment. I’m done with Shapiro for the reasons you mentioned, but I respect Crowder a lot for actually reporting and investigating the fraud. As for him disappearing, I would guess it’s connected to the holidays and just youtuber burn-out.
Thanks for all the suggestions everyone.
Shapiro being a grifter isn't a surprise by any means - "dude" is too uptight for being based
Shapiro and Rogan aren’t meant to bring the left further right. They’re meant to bring us further left. It can be subtle.
Liberal Hivemind is another.
I haven't watched a Shapiro anything since he went so soft. He was never for Trump, but at this point if anyone can't see we are in a culture war and Trump is the only one fighting for America, then you don't get space in my head.
There's a dude that's based. His name is Martin brodel. You can find him on bitchute martinbrodel. Older cat, but some great commentary and analysis if you've caught up on your other viewing
Jews gonna jew i spose.
I still like crowder, but more of a "Trust but verify" scenario.
Shapiro is. Was. And always has been anti-trump and attacks trump several times every month. Fuck shapiro. Also did you know HiS wIfE iS a DoCtOr
I think Crowder got banned temporarily.
Negative ghostrider, he’s still on the blaze.
Sauce?