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Littleirishmaid 364 points ago +364 / -0
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TonsOfSalt 90 points ago +95 / -5

In the beginning of the pandemic, the disease presented very similarly to ARDS which has a specific ventilator management strategy. Once the virus was better understood to be more of a micro-vascular issue, the general treatment strategy was changed along with the type of vent management.

It's not just "vent = murder". By the time it has progressed to the point of needing a ventilator, the mortality rate is already super high independent of whether they go on a vent or not. In many cases, it just prolongs the inevitable. The decision to intubate usually happens after they are maxed out on high flow oxygen devices.

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analog_shitposter 35 points ago +35 / -0

Thanks for the info, fren. As always there are nuances and we should be careful not to get caught up in our own narrative

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NomadicKrow2 29 points ago +29 / -0

Ivermectin instead of a ventilator.

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CantStumpTheCensored 12 points ago +12 / -0

Fake news. Thisnis my field.

Ventilators even in slow flow settings brutalize the alveolad which arr already damaging

It's like having rotten fabric and putting it in water. It won't get better.

Hence they stopped talking about vents. They know the lawsuits are coming.

They need oxygen. Aka IV oxygen. Not brutalizing damaged lung tissue.

Oxygen is key and thats why zinc ionophores like quercrtin ivermectin or hcq workd well with zinc and vit d vit c.

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TrumpMaskReplica 4 points ago +4 / -0

But a vent is the wrong treatment, they've stopped it because it made cases worse and destroyed peoples lungs.

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underthesmellybridge 8 points ago +9 / -1

You're reading it backwards.

"We think that mortality for folks that end up on the ventilator with [COVID-19] is going to end up being somewhere between probably 25% up to maybe 50%," Cooke says.

Mortality is people who die, not people who survive.

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Food4thought 5 points ago +5 / -0

Adding to it, this study (done in May) puts the death rate at ~36% of the people who get vents end up dying.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/with-low-survival-rate-doctors-see-ventilators-as-gut-wrenching-last-resort/

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Pixel 2 points ago +3 / -1

Why can't we use it as an excuse (in Minecraft)?

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AbleistSL 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not to mention the fact that regressive leftist corruption is rampant in the west, meaning that they could deny responsibility for their deaths by calling the corrupt doctors who sabotaged their medical treatments lone wolves and throwing them under the bus.

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HockeyMom4Trump 182 points ago +182 / -0

So five have died in the past month? Of a virus with a 99 percent recovery rate?

Five dead? Seems suspicious.

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halcyondream 102 points ago +102 / -0

99.98% for under 70

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Voting-for-Johnson 8 points ago +8 / -0

and all 600lbs of Chris Christie survived

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Cakes4077 51 points ago +52 / -1

One of the above was a brain aneurysm and another was complications after surgery, iirc.

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aKekabove 29 points ago +29 / -0

Yea so was joan rivers

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NC_patriot 23 points ago +23 / -0

Letlow had a heart attack during surgery and they are saying he died of Covid.

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TX4TW 4 points ago +4 / -0

There is a Reddit thread in news that basically rejoiced his covid related death... sickening

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StolenErection 10 points ago +10 / -0

6 months ago those would have been called covid deaths

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Desert_raindrops 4 points ago +4 / -0

More like 6 weeks ago but yes shocked they didn’t call it covid related

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Katht6277 8 points ago +8 / -0

Democratic Doctor! Paid.

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Littleirishmaid 42 points ago +42 / -0

It does.

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TRUMP420KUSH 13 points ago +13 / -0

All republicans too?

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HockeyMom4Trump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes. Weird, huh?

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Zeriel 7 points ago +7 / -0

5 republicans dead

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HockeyMom4Trump 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’m no expert, but that seems very fishy.

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Patriot_MAINIAC 31 points ago +31 / -0

This feels like when the SECOND PLANE HIT THE TOWERS....We ARE under attack.

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AlphaOmaga 5 points ago +5 / -0

They have meetings and every Republican gets “infected” bit no Dems. Wtf.