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TonsOfSalt 90 points ago +95 / -5

In the beginning of the pandemic, the disease presented very similarly to ARDS which has a specific ventilator management strategy. Once the virus was better understood to be more of a micro-vascular issue, the general treatment strategy was changed along with the type of vent management.

It's not just "vent = murder". By the time it has progressed to the point of needing a ventilator, the mortality rate is already super high independent of whether they go on a vent or not. In many cases, it just prolongs the inevitable. The decision to intubate usually happens after they are maxed out on high flow oxygen devices.

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analog_shitposter 35 points ago +35 / -0

Thanks for the info, fren. As always there are nuances and we should be careful not to get caught up in our own narrative

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Zeriel 44 points ago +44 / -0

Yea only happens to republicans though. Nothing to see here.

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Ejlj20 19 points ago +19 / -0

Right?!? I can’t help but think all the dems are taking hydroxychloraquine!!

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HansMann 6 points ago +6 / -0

lmao

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Zeriel 1 point ago +1 / -0

Haha more like getting people killed and passing it as covid. For example faulty ventilators that happen to be given to republicans. Remember this pepple are pure evil, theyre the ones putting Covid patients in nursing homes so theyre responsible for over 60% of the deaths just to make Trump look bad.

Theyre the party of Crime, theyre Satanists, pedophiles and murderers.

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Jaqen 5 points ago +5 / -0

Start at MedCram episode 59 on YouTube.

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NomadicKrow2 29 points ago +29 / -0

Ivermectin instead of a ventilator.

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3Terms 13 points ago +13 / -0

FLCCC I-MASK+ Protocol & Translations | FLCCC

Epidemiologic analyses on COVID-19 + Ivermectin | FLCCC

Ivermectin objectively makes every lock-down and forced vaccination even more illegal, the politicians have no where to hide. Ivermectin can be mass produced very quickly. Greece made 24 million does of Hydroxychloroquine (Unikinon) in one weekend (March 21st)(over 8 months ago). How many did the US make?

Head government official's already know that Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine works. We call this a clue.

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NomadicKrow2 12 points ago +12 / -0

If I went into the hospital with severe issues (Unlikely due to age and little/no underlying conditions), I'd request Ivermectin and fight being put on a ventilator. I can understand putting someone on a vent in the earlier days of this, but I can't forgive it now. We know Ivermectin pretty much cures it outright. HCQ+Z does wonders. There's more data and testing for both drugs than this mRNA vaccine.

I think mRNA vaccines are very promising and could potentially cure cancer. But they have too much work left for me to trust this emergency distributed vaccine. I'm very much pro-vaccines, btw. Just not pro-COVID vaccine.

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TruthyBrat 3 points ago +3 / -0

The issue is getting it for at-home care before hospitalization is needed. Early intervention using the FLCCC or EVMS protocol would kick Covid in the nuts, so of course our public health ediface isn't cheerleading for it. They are all in for a Big Pharma "solution".

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HumblePede 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you for this link!

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TruthyBrat 8 points ago +8 / -0

Already on it. I've gone the prophylactic route there.

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TylerGang412 7 points ago +7 / -0

I've gone the same route. It's nearly impossible finding a Dr willing to prescribe it for anything covid related so I went to Tractor Supply and picked up my own. It's cheap and works amazingly without artificially altering DNA.

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HumblePede 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have a couple questions if you don't mind. What form is the Ivermectin horse dewormer in at Tractor Supply? Is it pills, liquid, something else? And can you just walk in a purchase it even if you don't own horses?

Thanks for helping a pede out! We've had a huge uptick in positive COVID cases and deaths here. Frankly, I'm pretty skeptical of the numbers, but I should have gotten on this well before now and I didn't.

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Jaqen 5 points ago +5 / -0

It’s heart worm medicine for dogs. Also for mange. Also horse dewormer.

I’d you buy equine strength, available over the counter, it is hundreds of doses worth, just measure for your weight. Better to let a doctor prescribe it but you have options.

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TruthyBrat 11 points ago +11 / -0

I've done the math. The equine tubes are about 8 doses.

I'm taking the risk on the FDA-approved veterinary product. They feed that stuff to $1,000,000 racehorses. I'm fine, I'm 3 weeks in at this point.

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CantStumpTheCensored 12 points ago +12 / -0

Fake news. Thisnis my field.

Ventilators even in slow flow settings brutalize the alveolad which arr already damaging

It's like having rotten fabric and putting it in water. It won't get better.

Hence they stopped talking about vents. They know the lawsuits are coming.

They need oxygen. Aka IV oxygen. Not brutalizing damaged lung tissue.

Oxygen is key and thats why zinc ionophores like quercrtin ivermectin or hcq workd well with zinc and vit d vit c.

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TonsOfSalt 1 point ago +1 / -0

Positive pressure ventilation generally causes lung damage, but I'm sure you know (as an expert in the field) that there are methods of mitigating that damage enough to give a chance for the body to heal with specific disease processes; if not, we should just throw all ventilators away. I already said that it's the last resort, so I'm not sure why you said "Fake News" when you're essentially agreeing with me.

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TrumpMaskReplica 4 points ago +4 / -0

But a vent is the wrong treatment, they've stopped it because it made cases worse and destroyed peoples lungs.