Just because the legislature in states and the federal government have been incompetent and failing to do there job for 100+ years doesn't change the fact they have the most power. You don't say your coequal with your boss when he has the power to fire you and you can't fire him.
If you think about it, after we oust the uniparty's controlled opposition pay to play scheme, he effectively can fire anyone in the legislature. With one tweet he could have anyone primaried into non-existence with MAGA support.
The people fire the legislature the president can't directly fire them
While the legislature can fire the judges for any reason and the president if he committed a crime
Fall of the USSR everyone heavily tied to the government on the low level was f up anyone who ran in the private economy (yes even in the ussr the private economy existed) was able to do fine during that period
Nazi occupation of Greece or leningrad, those dependant on the government to feed them starve to death while other who went to the private market aka black market since it was illegal also did fine.
If you need local just check out the many cities such as Camden that fired there entire police force due to mismagment and corruption
Government is only supported by the private economy and the will of the people without both it can't exist and will collapse on itself.
The "co-equal" branches of government is an invention of left wing law professors. Lefties and Democrats started using the term when they thought they could enact their leftist socialist agenda through the courts as they did with abortion and same sex marriage.
In reality, Congress has the right to decide the number of Federal judges, the number of federal district courts, the region of each district court and the number of SCOTUS' justices. Furthermore, congress has the ability to enact laws that invalidate court rulings, even the SCOTUS. Congress can also amend the Constitution and the SCOTUS has no ability to override any valid congressional amendments to the Constitution. Congress can also impeach and remove federal justices and judges, a power that is too sparingly used imho.
For a long time now, most of our lives, Federal Courts have thought they have had the power to just invoke the principle of judicial review based on Marbury V Madison. The courts have believed they have had the ability to modify and even invalidate laws that are passed by Congress but that's starting to change as at least some in the legal profession are starting to realize, that courts do not and cannot ultimately "settle" any issue and often their rulings put roadblocks in the way of congress' ability to actually address problems in a manner that the American people have indicated they want. For instance, Trump was voted in to stop illegal immigration but the courts have made ruling after ruling to prevent him and those rulings have largely been based on the party affiliation of the judge and an upper middle class bias against the poor and unskilled in the U.S. However, Trump is having some success too and every one with a brain can see that it's judicial rulings that have led to some of the craziest and downright inane policies regarding immigration. The "co-equal" branch of governments phrase was only used starting in the late 20th century because the left thought they had the advantage in the courts. The public schools and general media, both news and entertainment, continued to propgandize that myth. Prior to the leftist introduction of that phrase, Americans talked about checks and balances, not co-equal branches of government and the Federalist Papers (a defense and apology of the U.S. Constitutions by the founding fathers who advocated for the Constitution) were careful to subordinate the U.S. Federal Courts because putting justices on the bench for life, should keep judges from becoming too political but it also created a class of individuals that are unelected "rulers" and the Founders wanted to make sure that the courts never had the power to overturn actual enacted law. Unfortunately, Marbury V Madison and the the concept of judicial review upended one of the basic checks on the federal courts.
We The People are only the solution if we're in D.C, which is the point of the ten day delay fake audit. They want everyone to leave D.C. before they certify the fraud.
Anyone think this gives us 10 more days to get the legislature's to de certify? Everyone jumping on Cruz but this is a win. Even if they object the house votes normally like 12th amendment.
This is exactly what will happen. Cruz and the other phonies had TWO fucking months to make up hteir minds, yet now they come and want a ten day extension? Not going to happen. 1/16 is make or break. And of debate.
They released the heavily edited version first, and didn't release the other for some time. There heavily edited version bleeped out the woman's, who was caught ballot stuffing, name.
Yep but they got their asses handed to them. Had to release the entire tape and the cements the crime. You cannot record and release a conversation with potus without written permission and a security review under federal code
Sounds like there were a bunch of people on the call. Plausible deniability? Also, of all the voices heard, Trump's sounds the clearest. The others sound like they're "on the phone" and he doesn't. Almost makes it sound like the recording was at the WH?
The sos office admitted to wapo they recorded the convo. Doesnt mean Raffensberger leaked it but just illegally recording it violates 18 U.S. Code § 798
Under the US Code to disclose any 'non-public transmission, verbal, recorded or electronic media, by a cabinet level or higher executive branch official without permission AND review by the executive branch Office of Document Review AND all appropriate agencies as defined by the Dept of Justice declassification protocols is a.........WAIT FOR IT.......crime, punishable by fine and not more than 10 years in prison.
They are not cabinet level or executive branch of the federal level though. And Georgia has a one party law. And president Trump listed the covmerstsion on a tweet. It's very muddy bit I don't think there is anything actionable from what I have read.
Here's the intriguing thing though... Since it's now being reported that Trump is going after GA SoS for leaking to WaPo, that implies he believes it was them, not his own team. So if Trump didn't do it and the recording was from the oval office, that implies someone close is undermining him - shock!
He said a few shide things so its news for the MSM to report on Trump negatively. So when the MSM leaked the footage apparently the person holding the tapes knew that the footage shouldn't be posted. The person handling the footage at WaPo could have been a double agent or is stupid and published it anyways. If the person at WaPo is a double agent but didn't necessarily have the authority to publish the recording he/she must of presented the video to a higher up and must of slightly edited the video just enough to the superior so the key things regarding litigation wasn't in the video.
But! But! The Washington Post is the paper of record, and definitely not the mouthpiece of a trillionaire globalist who wants to pay non-citizens $5 an hour!
Cool. Lawsuits. How can someone just breach confidentiality with the fucking president? Feel like there was a time in this country when you would be dead before you hung up the phone.
Listening to retards talk about this on Twitter made me think that the president said some shit he shouldn't have. Of course not surprised at all that it was quite the contrary and he said everything he should have. Raffensperger and Germany took 10 seconds to even begin to answer every question.
There is something about this Germany guy. In the hearings and on this call he is nervous as fuck. I feel like we need to drill down on this guy.
How Dems can warp their spying on a confidential call into the person being spied on being responsible for the watergate like spying the Dems are doing, is mind boggling.
Sue his demo ass Mr President!
He has but I don't expect a judge to uphold any decision.
The judicial branch is co-equal. If the executive branch decides something, it’s just as valid as a judicial decision.
Fuck them all.
Co-equal is a myth, the legislature has the most power the judicial has the least power
Just because the legislature in states and the federal government have been incompetent and failing to do there job for 100+ years doesn't change the fact they have the most power. You don't say your coequal with your boss when he has the power to fire you and you can't fire him.
Good for you, but not as stable of a profession as people think it is
If you think about it, after we oust the uniparty's controlled opposition pay to play scheme, he effectively can fire anyone in the legislature. With one tweet he could have anyone primaried into non-existence with MAGA support.
The people fire the legislature the president can't directly fire them While the legislature can fire the judges for any reason and the president if he committed a crime
Works for me. But, can you cite some sources for that?
Fall of the USSR everyone heavily tied to the government on the low level was f up anyone who ran in the private economy (yes even in the ussr the private economy existed) was able to do fine during that period
Nazi occupation of Greece or leningrad, those dependant on the government to feed them starve to death while other who went to the private market aka black market since it was illegal also did fine.
If you need local just check out the many cities such as Camden that fired there entire police force due to mismagment and corruption
Government is only supported by the private economy and the will of the people without both it can't exist and will collapse on itself.
The "co-equal" branches of government is an invention of left wing law professors. Lefties and Democrats started using the term when they thought they could enact their leftist socialist agenda through the courts as they did with abortion and same sex marriage.
In reality, Congress has the right to decide the number of Federal judges, the number of federal district courts, the region of each district court and the number of SCOTUS' justices. Furthermore, congress has the ability to enact laws that invalidate court rulings, even the SCOTUS. Congress can also amend the Constitution and the SCOTUS has no ability to override any valid congressional amendments to the Constitution. Congress can also impeach and remove federal justices and judges, a power that is too sparingly used imho.
For a long time now, most of our lives, Federal Courts have thought they have had the power to just invoke the principle of judicial review based on Marbury V Madison. The courts have believed they have had the ability to modify and even invalidate laws that are passed by Congress but that's starting to change as at least some in the legal profession are starting to realize, that courts do not and cannot ultimately "settle" any issue and often their rulings put roadblocks in the way of congress' ability to actually address problems in a manner that the American people have indicated they want. For instance, Trump was voted in to stop illegal immigration but the courts have made ruling after ruling to prevent him and those rulings have largely been based on the party affiliation of the judge and an upper middle class bias against the poor and unskilled in the U.S. However, Trump is having some success too and every one with a brain can see that it's judicial rulings that have led to some of the craziest and downright inane policies regarding immigration. The "co-equal" branch of governments phrase was only used starting in the late 20th century because the left thought they had the advantage in the courts. The public schools and general media, both news and entertainment, continued to propgandize that myth. Prior to the leftist introduction of that phrase, Americans talked about checks and balances, not co-equal branches of government and the Federalist Papers (a defense and apology of the U.S. Constitutions by the founding fathers who advocated for the Constitution) were careful to subordinate the U.S. Federal Courts because putting justices on the bench for life, should keep judges from becoming too political but it also created a class of individuals that are unelected "rulers" and the Founders wanted to make sure that the courts never had the power to overturn actual enacted law. Unfortunately, Marbury V Madison and the the concept of judicial review upended one of the basic checks on the federal courts.
Excellent summary and introduction to the topic. Thank you for clarifying. I think it's time to toss "co-equal" into the dustbin of history.
It will be in federal court and trump can make sure the judge is 'appropriate'
That's not how Trump works. He'd struggle through - and WIN - legitimately rather than fix the courts.
Cool then just have the military bomb his home.
I believe that'll be a violation of the constitution, in which case, We The People are the solution.
We The People are only the solution if we're in D.C, which is the point of the ten day delay fake audit. They want everyone to leave D.C. before they certify the fraud.
This is not true, every state has a federal presence.
Anyone think this gives us 10 more days to get the legislature's to de certify? Everyone jumping on Cruz but this is a win. Even if they object the house votes normally like 12th amendment.
This is exactly what will happen. Cruz and the other phonies had TWO fucking months to make up hteir minds, yet now they come and want a ten day extension? Not going to happen. 1/16 is make or break. And of debate.
They’ll never agree to the 10 shit anyways. It’s another trap for them to fall in and for us to say we gave them a chance.
Full call has been released by wapo and is on their site and bitchute.
This deserves its own post.
They released the heavily edited version first, and didn't release the other for some time. There heavily edited version bleeped out the woman's, who was caught ballot stuffing, name.
Yep but they got their asses handed to them. Had to release the entire tape and the cements the crime. You cannot record and release a conversation with potus without written permission and a security review under federal code
Pull their bar cards. They are not operating in good faith. They are obstructing justice.
Can the Washington Post release a conversation of an ongoing litigation/confidential settlement discussion and not be sued?
Bezos is looking for any angle he can to worm his propaganda, but doesn't this overstep their journalistic privilege?
huh? If it is illegal, it already happened. I'm asking for those pedes who are lawyers and know more than I do. Genuinely curious.
Maybe Wapo has a mole in the WhiteHouse is still a possibility too
They have managed to get every other leak out for 4 yrs
Every leak except for Biden's brain leaking out of his ears.
They're not allowed to certify a completely fraudulent vote count either, but WHOOPS
Trump gives Raffensberger multiple opportunities to come clean. This fkr is going down
Laches!
He should have sued before making the call!!!!
So Trump didn’t leak it?
The Georgia secretary of state leaked it to Washington post. And that is a crime and enough to arrest Raffensberger.
Maybe a helicopter preview will get him to flip??
Sounds like there were a bunch of people on the call. Plausible deniability? Also, of all the voices heard, Trump's sounds the clearest. The others sound like they're "on the phone" and he doesn't. Almost makes it sound like the recording was at the WH?
The sos office admitted to wapo they recorded the convo. Doesnt mean Raffensberger leaked it but just illegally recording it violates 18 U.S. Code § 798
Whelp another person not arrested then
Is anything said classified? I didn't hear anything at all that was new or not already orviosilh discussed.
Under the US Code to disclose any 'non-public transmission, verbal, recorded or electronic media, by a cabinet level or higher executive branch official without permission AND review by the executive branch Office of Document Review AND all appropriate agencies as defined by the Dept of Justice declassification protocols is a.........WAIT FOR IT.......crime, punishable by fine and not more than 10 years in prison.
They are not cabinet level or executive branch of the federal level though. And Georgia has a one party law. And president Trump listed the covmerstsion on a tweet. It's very muddy bit I don't think there is anything actionable from what I have read.
Here's the intriguing thing though... Since it's now being reported that Trump is going after GA SoS for leaking to WaPo, that implies he believes it was them, not his own team. So if Trump didn't do it and the recording was from the oval office, that implies someone close is undermining him - shock!
Trump's voice is clear because he's holding the phone to his head.
The GA fuckers sound less clear because they are sitting in a room together speaking on a conference line/speaker phone.
They got this far with their fraud, so yes... they think they are above the law!!
Talk about a desperate move by Rattbastard.
Dude knows he is going down in flames.
He said a few shide things so its news for the MSM to report on Trump negatively. So when the MSM leaked the footage apparently the person holding the tapes knew that the footage shouldn't be posted. The person handling the footage at WaPo could have been a double agent or is stupid and published it anyways. If the person at WaPo is a double agent but didn't necessarily have the authority to publish the recording he/she must of presented the video to a higher up and must of slightly edited the video just enough to the superior so the key things regarding litigation wasn't in the video.
Trump baited thier ass with that call. He knew they'd be recording that shot so they can leak it
You still haven't figured it out yet?
Nothing will happen. "No standing"
You should have sued before the election.muh latches.
That tweet has a future date stamp.
Depends on where the person viewing the tweet is. Could be an Aussie pede looking at it.
From the future!
Seconding; it's 9:40 AM on 1/4 out here in Japan. (Spoiler: Trump is still President!)
YAY!
Future events such as these will effect you, in the future!
Until we go Back To The Future...
Great Scott!
https://media.thedonald.win/post/Zkzzx50s.jpeg
From Raffensperger's view, what's breaking one more law?
Link here https://twitter.com/DavidShafer/status/1345868685605543940
Time to start hanging traitors
It sounds like Trump did not leak the call.
Sos Raffensberger leaked it to wapo
I have a feeling John Miller sent the full call to WaPo
Raffensperger is a moron
"Lay some pipe in dat ass Mr. President!"
Was never good at checkers.
please be real
Courts don't matter. The words evidence, proof, and sue are all pre 2020. Jan 6. Blood. Minecraft.
Checkmate? ... Fucking gay thread title, if there is a checkmate it is definitely not this.
Oops
Shit is about to get real!
He should be torn in half by jeeps.
But! But! The Washington Post is the paper of record, and definitely not the mouthpiece of a trillionaire globalist who wants to pay non-citizens $5 an hour!
The sos will hold strong and I’m sure Biden’s team has already reached out for a pardon.
Cool. Lawsuits. How can someone just breach confidentiality with the fucking president? Feel like there was a time in this country when you would be dead before you hung up the phone.
Listening to retards talk about this on Twitter made me think that the president said some shit he shouldn't have. Of course not surprised at all that it was quite the contrary and he said everything he should have. Raffensperger and Germany took 10 seconds to even begin to answer every question.
There is something about this Germany guy. In the hearings and on this call he is nervous as fuck. I feel like we need to drill down on this guy.
Actual thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/davidshafer
How's Jeff Bozos doing these days?
Why are so many people in this thread convinced GA SoS leaked the call edit? Have you forgotten the John Miller?
NO MORE UNSOURCED TWEETS
Perjury traps only work on us sadly.
How Dems can warp their spying on a confidential call into the person being spied on being responsible for the watergate like spying the Dems are doing, is mind boggling.
Does anybody still care about the courts? or congress/senate hearings?
If they're not afraid of you, you got nothing.