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Bonami 7 points ago +9 / -2

The planes are a lie, look carefully at the videos, the planes melt into the buildings, no resistance, no parts fall off, nothing. That is impossible, only time you see that would be in a Roadrunner cartoon.

That engine they found on the ground near the towers was not a model used on any of the planes. The planes were a decoy to cover for the explosives set inside the buildings.

The security dogs who were trained to smell explosives were all taken off the job, who owned the security company, a Bush family member

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WindyJibbz 6 points ago +6 / -0

I am with you on Shanksville and I have heard the engine wasnt the same but I could never wrap my head around what they did with the actual planes then if they didnt use them. There was also the camera that caught the first plane hitting and is the only known footage. I dont think cgi was that good in 2001 from my memory. And they would have to fake the footage so fast because it was all on live tv 5 mins after the first building got hit and they all caught number 2, even home video. I think they would have a hard time doing that even today. I will go back again, and check though. Even after taking a college course on 9/11 I still learn more each time.

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Bonami 1 point ago +1 / -0

Let me reply line by line :) what they did with the actual planes: I don't have the exact info in my head but we are looking at three possible planes, one plane actually continued to fly, I believe it was the one out of Boston; its numbers showed up for several years. The plane that supposed to be at Shanksville appears to have been routed to another site and the people on board killed, plane sold for scrap. The third plane never existed. This info was compiled by several people who were in intelligence, several videos of their findings were made. the videos: the fake cgi videos were shot ahead of time of the planes entering the building, all they had to do was add live footage of the flames shooting out of the buildings. That is how they could be in the studios so quickly. In one of the faked videos they missed that the fake plane nose exited the other side of the building, when they showed it later, they blocked the area.

A video guy at the time made exact duplicates using special effects of each of the videos and offered 100,000 dollars to anyone who could disprove his work. That video was on youtube for a long time, it is gone now.

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aric_cavanaugh 1 point ago +2 / -1

The planes are a lie, look carefully at the videos, the planes melt into the buildings, no resistance, no parts fall off, nothing. That is impossible, only time you see that would be in a Roadrunner cartoon.

...?

Full speed into the side of a skyscraper. The sides of the building aren't reinforced concrete, and the plane is moving several hundred miles an hour. The skyscraper isn't a solid structure (the volume within the walls is largely air) and the airplane isn't a solid structure (in fact it's a very light structure, designed to razor thin margins to ensure aerodynamics and reduce weight).

If you smash a can into a box at 500 miles an hour the can is going to go entirely into the box.

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Bonami 1 point ago +1 / -0

You need to read about the structure of these towers, they were not cement, they were solid steel.

And no ordinary steel, they were milled in Japan out of the strongest steel in the world.

Go see the photos of its construction, notice how small the windows were, there was no way a plane was going to penetrate that barrier.

Smash a tin can into a solid steel barrier, you will end up with a smashed can.

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WindyJibbz 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think it’s similar to a bullet hitting concrete, or a thinner plate steel. I do a fair bit of shooting and see how bullets react with different stuff. There is so much kinetic energy behind it that the softer metal, plane- aluminum, bullet- copper jacketed lead, will penetrate, leave damage and essentially disintegrate when met with a dense target. Wings bare the engines and the fuel (allegedly) so their is big density there. Enough to damage the walls in the rough outline of a plane as shown.

But the planes would have been shredded on impact of the outter concrete-clad steel frame like you say and never had the size or energy to really damage the core, where the strength of the building was. I believe it was wired with cut charges in the elevator shafts in the core 3/4 the way up and set off top down slicing the beams which let it fall in on itself. Evidenced by the tower on building 1 falling into the building before the rest follows, suggesting the core support is gone.

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Bonami 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, it would have shredded on impact plus given the fuel it would have exploded, which would mean that wreckage would be strewn everywhere at the base of the building. Yet all they found was one engine that was NOT the same make or model used on these airplanes. Witnesses said they saw a truck drop it off.

Once you accept that it would not be possible for the plane to penetrate the building, once you are aware that controlled demolition took the building down, that the hole in the Pentagon was far smaller than a plane, that no wreckage of a plane was visible in first shots, that the "hole" in Shanksville was a small ditch, then the idea that a video was faked is not a step too far.

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aric_cavanaugh 1 point ago +2 / -1

Go see the photos of its construction, notice how small the windows were, there was no way a plane was going to penetrate that barrier.

You can literally watch a plane fly into the side of the tower, and see the plane-shaped hole it makes in the wall. Planes are also made of steel, their reinforcing members are steel. And it was travelling at speed. The dynamics of that collision are such that even if the wheels and bits "fell off", they would fall off into the building.

Likewise, the steel members of the skyscraper are designed for vertical loading, and were impacted horizontally, which is their absolute weakest point. It's a match made in heaven from a collision standpoint.

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Bonami 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are watching a video, a faked video, go watch as the plane melts into the building, no delay, no bump, nothing, no resistance at all. Now go watch a Road Runner cartoon. Exactly the same cartoon physics.

Planes are not made of steel, they would not be able to get off the ground. "Most planes also have frames made out of lightweight aluminum and/or composite materials that often include a carbon-reinforced plastic, or CREP.

Essentially, most older commercial planes are made mostly of aluminum and most newer planes are now using composite materials." link: https://www.aircraftcompare.com/blog/what-are-planes-made-of/

The towers were engineered to withstand a hit from a commercial airliner, there is a video of the head architect saying so.

It is hard to believe you have been deceived, hard to believe so many agents went with the story. But if you can get past it, and see clearly how fake the Pentagon hit is, see how small and shallow the Shanksville "hole' is, then realize that faking a video would not be a stretch for these people.