How we act on January 6th will be judged by future generations. **During an unprecedented time, it is our behavior which will set the precedent for those that follow. ** This is a burdensome responsibility. I advise that we all consider how easily one can destroy, but how few have what it takes to build. THINK BEFORE YOU ACT.
DO NOT become the tyranny we see in BLM and Antifa. We must steady ourselves with Grace and Poise, and know that the truth is on our side.
Our enemies, the globalists and CCP, WANT us to be divided. Any hate in our hearts for our fellow Americans - many of whom know not that they are brainwashed - is the result of their success in controlling the narratives spread by the media conglomerate. It is a disease that we are in the throes of curing.
Our fellow Americans are not part of the disease - they need only be shown a better way. We all saw their methods during the BLM and Antifa riots - now let us show them how patriots carry themselves and get things done.
On Jan 6th, WE will be writing the narrative. So, again, I say to you all: THINK BEFORE YOU ACT.
Yes, we must defend ourselves if attacked. Yes, we must push through to the Capital. But we must not forget that Trump is our Commander-in-Chief, and he has always exercised great patience. He has endured much, as we have endured much. He did not rush the National Guard in during the riots - he followed our Constitution and waited for orders from the state Governors. He did not take advantage of the COVID scare to grant himself unlimited power. Now, it seems, he is again being patient, exhausting all of his options and saving the most dreaded for last.
If nothing else, Pedes, what I am trying to say in this town square that we have built for ourselves is that I do not believe January 6th to be our last stand. No, I believe it to be our final PEACEFUL stand.
I ask - what if a group of DC Police stop a small group of armed patriots en-route to the Capital? We know this is illegal in DC (even though we all know it to be unconstitutional). What is the plan, then? Are we at the point where we expect those men to open fire? What comes next? How would such a move play into the grand strategy?
I ask - if we were to storm the Capital with guns, and point them at the traitors in our midst, forcing them to cast their dissent in our favor at gunpoint - what does that make us? Is that the precedent we want to set - threaten with violence if things are not going your way?
Our founders endured The Boston Massacre, and still, John Adams stood by his principals and successfully counseled the British soldiers against a packed court to allow justice to prevail.. He must have known he was setting a precedent for future generations, and I offer to all of you that he acted accordingly. So, too, must we.
The people of Athens, Tennessee endured much. At the end of their ordeal, they did not call the election for themselves. They allowed the vote to continue and counted the ballots fairly and honestly. These people, it seems to me, stayed true to their principals.
We must do the same, no matter how high and intense our emotions. We must appeal to the better parts of ourselves and not get carried away on this day.
May I suggest we let Trump fire the first shot to be heard round the world and follow his lead. I believe he is not yet finished executing the moves on his chessboard.
Let us show the world on January 6th that we are principled people. advocating for the peaceful and total application of truth and justice and - if we are not to be granted it, than we shall Appeal to Heaven and seek it with the only option we have left - SWIFT, RIGHTEOUS FORCE.
We must be strategic and think long-term. We must know when to strike, and we must know how to win and what victory must look like. January 6th, in my eyes, is our last warning to the traitors. FOLLOW TRUMP'S LEAD - DO NOT STRIKE EARLY.
I don't disagree with you.
All I am suggesting is that January 6th is not the "go for broke" day.
Trump, it seems to me, has not exhausted all of his options. How engaging in warfare with the DC police helps our cause (as many have suggested here) is lost on me at this moment.
We're not at war, yet. None of us should want that unless we have absolutely no other choice.
Do you feel that none of Trump's remaining cases will yield any results? That Trump and his team are completely out of options and have no other strategy?
You know, you're right. I wrote "we're not at war, yet," and that wasn't actually what I meant to say. I believe I meant to say that I feel we are not at the "let the bullets fly" stage.
Again, you are right, and I agree. We are at war. We have been, particularly with the CCP, for a long time.
What I am trying to discuss is whether or not "going for broke" on January 6th is the best way to win this war.
Do we know what our goal is? Do we know what we have to do to achieve it?
In my mind, we don't. We're not there, yet. We all just know that we are angry as hell and that we need Trump to get back in office.
To defeat the influence of the globalists and the CCP, I don't see how storming into the Capital building is going to help with in any meaningful way when our adversaries have been waging a war for hearts and minds. Perhaps you disagree ...
To that extent, the question I am pondering is, how do we win back the hearts and minds of all the Biden voters? How do we build up the strength and resilience in our country again to fight back against this influence?
Clearly, we have grown weak. I argue that this weakness is what has allowed the CCP to succeed to the extent that they have.
So, how do we beat them?
I may be naïve, but I believe that Trump has a plan. I want to believe he has another trick or two up his sleeve. If we can restore faith in our institutions, like the justice system, and try all of these traitorous fucks with indisputable evidence, I think we have a chance to wake people up from their CNN-induced comas and have a chance at resisting the influence that has infected our country.
This influence is in our schools, our mayoral offices, our governor offices, our judicial system, our military, our art industries ...we need resources and intel to win this fight. It seems to me that we have to be strategic, patient, and strike with timing in multiple places at once. I don't know if we have ever faced a foe like this, but I do know that we have fought a war for hearts and minds - in Afghanistan and Iraq. It took us too long to learn those lessons. Let us not forget to apply those lessons here, where they may be useful to us. "Shock and Awe," at least prolonged, got us nowhere. We had to go town by town, clearing out the cancer, building relationships and institutions.
Maybe storming the Capital building is the symbolic start that we need, I'm not sure. Convince me, I'm all ears, friend. Truly. My family came here in the 1600s and I'm not going down without a fucking fight. I'm not giving up. I just want to make sure we win.
My main point, I suppose, is that I'm not ready to turn to the fourth box, yet. I'm waiting for the greenlight from Trump. Perhaps that makes me stupid. Again, convince me if you feel I am wrong. I do think we may be nearing the end of our peaceful possibilities, definitely. But I don't think we've exhausted them.
I hope that you've found this discussion helpful, I'd be happy to continue it. Either way, my group and I will be in DC before the end of the day.
Nah
Name another time we will have congress surrounded by millions of patriots
If that is the extent of your resolve, go home now.
if you can't recognize a rare opportunity when it comes along, and can't act appropriately well you should just go ho.. wait, nevermind. You can do what you want, I don't boss people around on the internet like a faggot.
So, if we take Congress by force - we win? All of the bullshit corruption goes away?
This is bigger than January 6th. This is in every state, in all the big cities, in all our schools, in many of our biggest companies, in all of our news organizations.
Defeating a hydra like that, I am trying to argue, requires organization, intel, and strategy. Symbolically holding a building would be great for morale, but do nothing to progress us toward achieving our real goal of kicking the globalists and CCP and their influence out of America.
Trump has the resources at his disposal, he has the intel. I don't see how we can do this without him.
If he told us, "Listen, guys - I tried my best but I'm all out of options. It is up to you, now." I can't say I'd know exactly how to win all of this but I certainly wouldn't do nothing.
We still have to retain our institutions for justice. As I gave in my example, even one of our founding fathers and our second President, John Adams, STILL defended British troops in court because he felt that a country without a right to a fair trial was in no way free at all.
Yes, we have to be prepared to fight. I am. So many of us are. But this is a war for hearts and minds - there is only so much bullets can do in a war like that. We have to achieve our goal in a way that gets more people out of their coma and on our side.
We learned all of these lessons in Afghanistan and Iraq. We can't make the same mistake here at home.
[EDIT] I adore the Constitution. I'm sure you do, too, otherwise you wouldn't be ready to fight. Let's tackle this in a way that honors and upholds it. We have to be strategic.
Unironically, yes
Well, then help me understand. Help me see things the way you do. I am all ears, Pede.
These people put my dad on a ventilator when he begged not to be, and killed him for $40,000. Then they took my son out of school, and froze my wages. Then they destroyed almost every local business in my town.
Playtime's fuckin' over, my honorable friend.
My fellow compatriot, I want to win. For what happened to your father, and so many others, and for all the business owners and families caught up in this bullshit, I want to win.
I am suggesting that winning this fight - against the CCP and Globalists - will take massive resources and coordination. Those snakes have successfully exploited our weaknesses and sowed division amongst us.
It seems to me this war is one of hearts and minds. If our people are weak, I fear we will have little chance to be resilient and push back against this influence.
What I am suggesting is that we follow Trump's lead. I feel, and perhaps you do, too, that he has a few more tricks up his sleeve. And, if he did not and had exhausted all of his options, I believe (perhaps naively) that he would flat-out tell us it was time to turn to the ammo box.
John Adams saw children massacred by British troops outside his window during the Boston Massacre. He still, as a lawyer, defended those British troops when no other lawyer would. He said that a country could not claim to be a free country if every man could not have a fair trial.
So many of our heroes have endured pain, and so have you. So have I. So has Trump. If I may be so bold, I am suggesting we strike only if we know we can win. And for that, we need a plan, a strategy, and organization. In my mind, we are all just showing up to DC and seeing what happens. I think we are waiting for Trump, still.
If you disagree, I would love to hear how, and why.
In any case, I will be there tomorrow with a small group. Rest assured that, if it comes time to fight, I will be there until the end. I just don't believe tomorrow is our time to strike - instead, I believe it is our time to show our last, largest, and loudest peaceful protest and to convey that, if all of our institutions fail us, we will do what needs to be done.
The world will be watching us.
You failed to excite me. You didn't even earn my downvote.
I think we can scare them shitless if we show up in numbers, united and angry. I also think that is what Trump is hoping we do, because I think he still has a few tricks up his sleeve.
I don't think getting into a shootout with the DC police is going to help us achieve anything, however. I'm worried because I am seeing that thrown around here a lot. I want to spark a discussion to get us focused.