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posted ago by magayd45 ago by magayd45 +4622 / -1

It's breaking my fucking heart. Who else is going through the same thing? I'm being attacked by my family for caring about the fate of the world. What the fuck is going on.

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Joaniev9 649 points ago +663 / -14

Love them regardless. It takes a long time but eventually they will know you are on the right side. I started out on here in 2016, my husband would cut me off mid sentence and call me crazy. To his defense I was going on about spirit cooking and pizzagate. Most people do not want the burden of knowledge. And really, can you fully blame them? Its so hard to know how evil this world truly is, most people do not have the mental capacity or fortitude to withstand the things we know. Let them be ignorant, don't engage in conversation about things you know they will not accept. It took me many years to learn this.

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Littleirishmaid 305 points ago +307 / -2

One day, one of my sons and I tried explaining spirit cooking to my husband. He was driving so we tried not to overwhelm him. It’s such a bizarre thing that he just turned and looked at us like we were crazy. Another time, the subject came up during a birthday get together. Someone alluded to human sacrifice when discussing conspiracies and I blurted out Marina abramovich’s name. My son in law looked at me and burst out laughing. He knows. I think he was shocked that #I# know.

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Barack-Obama2 190 points ago +200 / -10

I don’t have real children because I only like dicks.

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Morpheus75 132 points ago +133 / -1

User name checks out

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Wexit-Delecto 38 points ago +40 / -2

I dunno. He only likes them?

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MentalyStable 55 points ago +56 / -1

Big Mike Enters the Chat.

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qqbertz 31 points ago +32 / -1

**Big Mike Enters little Barack

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PoorMansPsychiatrist 27 points ago +28 / -1

☝️ Checks out!

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MikeObamasVeineyCock 19 points ago +21 / -2

I can confirm.

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Here_we_go 80 points ago +80 / -0

This is why I need Trump to release some inside indisputable evidence. I tell my husband whats the real deal. Then he thinks everyone knows. He talks to his left leaning stereotypical black ny family and they fucking blatantly mock him. Thankfully he just digs his heels in more. Unfortunately he has begin hating them and they feel the same.

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SmokeyAF 34 points ago +34 / -0

Sorry you guys are suffering this, and I agree we need "more" indisputable evidence. One problem, people have been disputing some of our previously existing "indisputable" evidence, which was mixed with evidence of a weaker caliber (disputable), thereby making our position weaker in their eyes. I have one hard-line democrat brother, but we manage to avoid political topics and our family has co-existed for decades like that with a loving family rapport. Good luck and God Bless y'all.

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80960KA 18 points ago +18 / -0

indisputable evidence

It doesn't matter; the statistical evidence alone we have right now is more than enough. If we cared as a society about cheating in elections as much as we care about cheating in minecraft speedruns there wouldn't be any question.

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menchelke 12 points ago +12 / -0

My mom is a never trumper, she hates him, my brother and I can get her to admit the main stream news is lieing, we can get her to admit it makes sense to audit the votes, but she still thinks all the evidence is made up and lies. She thinks Rudy was corrupted by Trump.

She is literally "orange man bad" so anything to replace him.

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Hairy_Mouse 7 points ago +8 / -1

We have a MOUNTAIN of it already.

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Miztivin 5 points ago +5 / -0

It's not even that the evidence is disputable!

It's that every form of social information, outside of face to face conversation, is gaslighting the truth. It sucks...

We need Trump to do something shocking, irrefutable and public.

Cautiously hopeful for tomorrow.

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covfefe_energy 2 points ago +2 / -0

The real problem is that non-conservatives are politically retarded.

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Scroon 53 points ago +53 / -0

I don't know why people have such a hard time believing in human blood sacrifice. It's a constant throughout human history, and all the major religions are based on it in one way or another. (Christianity was all about ending it.)

It'd be surprising if it wasn't going on.

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acasper 32 points ago +33 / -1

I’ve had that happen many times. More around 9/11 over the last decade than any other topic. People are absolutely coming around to a global cabal existing and using pedophilia as a control mechanism for their members.

I think that a lot of the red pilling has just been empowered by the Internet. I was initially redpilled by zeitgeist, loose change, unabomber manifesto (this absolutely gets me crazy person looks but just read the manifesto and tell me it’s not a description of what has happened to the world), Adam Curtis documentaries, and classical philosophers who helped me develop the tools required to think critically about the world around me and massive control power structures (Socrates, Aristotle, Cicero, Confucius, Lao Tsu (sp?)).

Previously people would have had access to a few of these maybe but most people would only have part of the picture. Most people still don’t have most of the picture but they do have significantly more of the picture and so collectively can participate in solving the puzzle together.

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acasper 3 points ago +3 / -0

I agree with you entirely.

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OVERMENSCH 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'll agree with Ted regarding the disastrous consequences of tech on the human mind & development. But my understanding is that much of his philosophy was just repackaged climate change dooming + anti-capitalist Marxism

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acasper 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah some of it not correct but the gist of it is pretty dead on. The climate change stuff is less the main point and technology and technocracy is the real villain.

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regollyek 108 points ago +108 / -0

I think you have to start with the most rational and basic stuff.

Like with voter fraud, if you go full-fledged Lin Wood with Chavez and China people are going to be like wtf are you talking about? When I talk to someone I say which one of these are the more likely scenario:

  1. Joe Biden is the most popular and loved presidential candidate in American history. OR
  2. Politicians in Detroit, Chicago, Atlanta are corrupt and self-serving?
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DrCowboyPresident 61 points ago +61 / -0

Just start with the long tradition of urban vote fraud. Tammany hall, Chicago machine, etc. Cities are corrupt as fuck.

Then just imagine how much more they could accomplish if they had fancy voting machines with all sorts of nifty features. Adjudication, for example. The rules say 2 counters or whatever have to approve the change.

How does the machine enforce that? It doesn't, from the video I saw. And how easy would it be to get 2 people on the same team in an urban Hellhole?

These machines do not simplify or expedite the voting process, votes are taking longer than ever to count now. So the question must be asked: What DO the machines bring to the table?

Answer: Utility and obfuscation.

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DrCowboyPresident 7 points ago +7 / -0

Stuff like that is always my first go-to to explain to a normie. Urban corruption goes all the way back to Babylon. Assuming they are ran on the up-and-up is pure ignorance.

So I educate them.

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BallsackPaneer 4 points ago +4 / -0

I doubt kids today even know about Tammany hall. We studied it in US History, back when we had a semi-based curriculum. My history teacher was Polish, and was a staunch anti-communist.

It's wild to see mention of Tammany hall as I just finished watching a video on William Poole, aka "Bill the Butcher" in Gangs of New York. Crazy times then and now.

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Oback_Barama 56 points ago +56 / -0

I like to just repeat their own "facts" back to them.

  • Obama wasn't as popular as Trump when it comes to voters. Obama got 69 million votes, and Trump got 74 million votes. But you know who blows them BOTH out of the water? Biden! he got over 80 million votes!
  • I bet the only reason that Obama seemed popular was because of how many people were really in love with Biden, despite the fact that he lost to Hillary and Obama in the primary.
  • Biden won despite underperforming Hillary in EVERY SINGLE metro area in the country EXCEPT for Milwaukee, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Atlanta. People in those cities just REALY LOVE Biden.
  • In fact people in those cities LOVE Biden so much that many wards had well over 100% voter turnout!
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FireannDireach 33 points ago +33 / -0

Libs don't care. I've tried to argue with facts and logic, and all they have to say is "As long as Trump loses, I don't care."

They have demonized Trump for so long, and so hard, that the average person literally thinks Trump is the antichrist. You can ask them "What exactly has he done, that makes him so bad?" and all they have is the old rumors and slander that have been proven false. They've said things like 'Trump just wants to start a war for oil for Russia".

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R-A-T-S- 18 points ago +18 / -0

Hitler himself could rise from his grave and run for democrat with the promise to bring national socialism to the US, and they would have voted for him even as he was pre heating man size ovens to deal with "Super spreaders" in NYC.

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Itsoktobewite 8 points ago +8 / -0

If Trump really wanted oil he could get it pretty easily by offering Alberta and Saskatchewan statehood. He wouldn't need a war.

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mnguy12000 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bingo, I did this same thing to my dad and he just blows it off. Its actually funny. Its like nothing registered at all when you hit them with it.

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EdmondDantesDog 15 points ago +15 / -0

So 11 more million Democrats voted for an old white man than Black Jesus? Conclusion can only be that Democrats are fucking racist!

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FireannDireach 3 points ago +3 / -0

No, but a lot of them voted against Trump than voted for Biden. Many of my friends and family openly admit they did just that. It's beyond frustrating, and they'll be the first to start yelling when Biden's crew starts fucking around (if he manages to steal the election) demanding "How did this happen?!?!?"

I patiently listened to a good friend lost his head over trump not too long ago. No point in countering his statements, instead I just listened. It's all nothing. He was ranting how Trump was of course in bed with Russia because he had billions of dollars in resorts on the line in Russia. Or how he only ran for President because he was broke.

He's a good friend, but when I hear shit like that coming out of his mouth, my only thought was "I need to put some distance between us, now. Sad."

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Whiskeytangofoxtrot9 4 points ago +4 / -0

Good stuff!

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HighFrequency 22 points ago +22 / -0

Thats a great way to start! I cant understand how anyone can be so willfully blind but they have excuses for everything. Unbelievable. One note: 95% of problem here is technically “election fraud” not voter fraud.

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conservativeyuppie 8 points ago +9 / -1

Occam's razor.

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TiredCampaigner 11 points ago +11 / -0

The option with the least amount of variables required to accomplish the event.

As an example, it more likely that fewer counties voted for Biden than Obama but in those counties he got almost twice as many votes or that someone cheated?

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ViolentNPCS 7 points ago +8 / -1

A theory requiring the fewest assumptions is most often correct. Seems pretty self explanatory.

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R-A-T-S- 3 points ago +3 / -0

The problem isn't the Occam's razor. Its that its not being fully applied. Its like "Oh people are just stupid." And then people just walk away from that point. But no, if they're stupid, like to the people are this stupid there is a level where someone's stupidity is so grossly dangerous that they shouldn't be in a position ever again. Its like having Michel J Fox as a brain surgeon.

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Confident_Error 58 points ago +62 / -4

Comments like this are why .win is better than Reddit. I remember when loved ones would disagree with the forums on that site. OP would be told to disown family and friends over a disagreement.

By far the best thing about America is that so many people who disagree can make things work as a whole. Most Americans just want to focus on the challenges in their life, they do not have time for issues that do not effect them personally.

That said give them time, the truth is on our side.

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liaBIGmd 35 points ago +40 / -5

Disowning your family is the tool of the Enemy.

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Ogcarvattack 37 points ago +37 / -0

depends on the family.

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conservativeyuppie 35 points ago +35 / -0

This. Ignorant people with different misinformed opinions is one thing, but toxic degenerates who eat away at your soul should be cut off.

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Hammer1958 2 points ago +2 / -0

exactly right

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LowKeyPede 10 points ago +10 / -0

It is a hallmark sign of a cult.

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WryProtagonist 10 points ago +10 / -0

34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. 35 For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; 36 and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’

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blueandgold777 1 point ago +1 / -0

Truth.

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HisWillBeDone 1 point ago +1 / -0

Matthew 5:43-48 "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. For He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. For if you love those who love you, what reward will you have? Don't even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing out of the ordinary? Don't even the Gentiles do the same? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."

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frogwithbreasts 0 points ago +2 / -2

Nahhhh I've seen folks here literally advise other pedes to kill their liberal relatives. Family-rending hatred exists on both sides.

For my money, disowning is better than physical violence.

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Slenderman 19 points ago +20 / -1

It takes a long time to redpill some folks. Stay consistent and show love.

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Joaniev9 10 points ago +11 / -1

Always count on the left to fuck up royally. They always come through and have helped prove me right.

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EatingIsFun 7 points ago +7 / -0

This right here; the burden of knowledge. When confronted with the information most will simply shut down or ignore as they are confronted by a choice, either do something about it or become complicit by inaction. Most prefer ignorance.