Let's say Trump had an expectation for Pence to coward out and the votes to go against him on jan 6th but he had a plan to somehow still end up winning. Like if he activated the military after that point and everything to this point was to justify that. But then why invite the crowd? It's a serious morale loss and he knows that Patriots are ready to go 1776 on this. It could cost some people their lives. It would make MAGA look like BLM in terms of violence instead of taking the high road like they've done so far. The move if he expected Jan 6th to be an L would be to not have the crowd.
So the results should be neutral or good on Jan 6th if everything is going to Trump's plan.
President Trump must know we don’t have the votes to toss electors (a majority in both houses). I’m convinced he has something up his sleeve if he’s telling us to go to DC. For once, he’d have boots on the ground that are loyal to him and help enforce his will.
We are his insurance policy. We’ll enforce the law and take justice into our own hands if the corrupt swamp betrays him.
he should have held a rally in VA for staging tonight.. somewhere with 2a open carry.
Our whole lives have been the staging. Let's roll.
I sure as shit didn’t drive 20+ hrs to wave a sign!
Patriot- be careful, be smart
Isn't that why we we put three judges on the supreme court?
he just said the VP can toss electors yesterday.
State delegations come into play only in the house if we get a contingent election. To get a contingent election, neither candidate must have 270 or more electors. In a contingent election, the house votes by state delegations to determine the president. The senate votes with one senator, one vote to determine the VP.
But the contigent election would trigger if Pence opted to simply not count ANY electorals from the contested states, no? Both Xiden and Trump would be under 270.
That's my understanding yes
The contingent election would not trigger if Congress decides to accept the Trump electors. If they decide to have no electors from the contested states, then we get a contingent election. It wouldn’t matter who has more electoral votes after the fraudulent votes are tossed.
Maybe he's dragging it out this long to make it even more of a bang, more anger and indignance from supporters and looks much better in history. It's a grand show
Wait do we need a majority ???
Yes lol. But that's a different solution and more for optics. Doesnt look as bad if pence rejects electors if 100s of Congressman objected too.
Why not? Who cares what the laws say. He should do it anyway, then call marines into the chamber. Let them fight it in court, same way they do us.
Top tier is correct, and why you’ll be deported soon.
Does your wife’s boyfriend know you’re on TDW?
If Congress certifies Biden, thats the point Trump knows there's no peaceful paths left. He will have absolutely no choice but to either call for us to go ballistic and storm Congress and arrest/kill the traitors, or call in the military to handle them, or a combination of both us and the military.
People say we're too afraid to start a revolt.. what if Trump called for it though. "The American people, go after the traitors and take your country back!" he could say.
Trump knows hes the real winner... I can't imagine him ever wanting to leave office only for satanic pedophilic communists to take over, especially when they cheated their way in.
He loves America and the American people.. would he ever let us be living in a dangerous environment if he doesn't have to let it be that way???
I think the worst case scenario is him simply refusing to leave the whitehouse past Jan 20th, with as much protection from the people & the military as he can get. But I'd much rather take a trump card up his sleeve that gets him the win the easy way.
the Constitution has our backs. it says the VP has PLENARY power tomorrow.
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In United States constitutional law, plenary power is a power that has been granted to a body or person in absolute terms, with no review of or limitations upon the exercise of that power. The assignment of a plenary power to one body divests all other bodies from the right to exercise that power, where not otherwise entitled. Plenary powers are not subject to judicial review in a particular instance or in general.
Nowhere in the Constitution does it say the VP has a plenary 12A power. Pence's powers are definitely subject to debate and he will not have a winning argument unless there is a majority or near-majority (less Romney/Murkowski) of Senators for Trump. Pence does not have absolute authority to dismiss Biden electors; this is why it is absolutely imperative to put McConnell's balls on the chopping block tomorrow.
There’s a lot of confusion around this. I thought it was only one from the senate and one from the house to contest.
The fuck is Plenary? I genuinely wanna know.
Full or complete without limitation.
Fancy term for complete and total. In terms of the Constitution, when a power is considered plenary it means it can be exercised to its full extent and without restraint. Still up in the air whether Pence’s power to reject electors is plenary, but hold on!
It forces the issue at least.
"Absolute." Meaning the power lies solely with him, and can't be usurped by others.
Some dude said he met with someone in the White House and cant say who, but that they're optimistic something big/good will happen tomorrow.
nigga the moment someone gets sworn in on jan 20 is when that nigga legally becomes prez. da white house is da prez home. da secret service protects da prez n his home. if that demented nigga gets sworn in then he is da prez no matter what anyone says. and what does da secret service do to trespassers in da white house? they kick that nigga out...
what the fuck u think is finna happen if biden is sworn in n officially prez and trump refuses to leave da white house?
use ur fucking head brah lmao trump literally cant just “refuse” to leave da white house dumb ass lmao 😂 i want big donald to win this shit but reality is reality. da final absolute due date is jan 20 at noon. someone is getting sworn in that day no matter what happens. and whoever the nigga getting sworn in is da official prez.
stop saying dumb clown shit like that. it aint helping anybody n just makes you look goofy af
what the fuck is wrong with you
what did i say that was wrong u brain stem?
nigga the moment someone gets sworn in on jan 20 is when that nigga legally becomes prez. da white house is da prez home. da secret service protects da prez n his home. if that demented nigga gets sworn in then he is da prez no matter what anyone says. and what does da secret service do to trespassers in da white house? they kick that nigga out...
what the fuck u think is finna happen if biden is sworn in n officially prez and trump refuses to leave da white house? how well do u think thats gonna work out for trump?
use ur fucking head brah lmao trump literally cant just “refuse” to leave da white house dumb ass lmao 😂 i want big donald to win this shit but reality is reality. da final absolute due date is jan 20 at noon. someone is getting sworn in that day no matter what happens. and whoever the nigga getting sworn in is da official prez.
stop saying dumb clown shit like that. it aint helping anybody n just makes you look goofy af
da niggas that drag out everybody else that aint da prez or aint allowed to be in there. did u even read a single word i said lmao? da secret service is non-political and simply protect da official legal prez. it dont matter how that person became prez, if u get inaugurated as prez on jan 20, u are legally da prez and da secret service is finna treat u as da prez until u are legally officially no longer da prez anymore. they aint da ones that decide that and they dont play games.
if that demented old nigga is inaugurated on da 20th he becomes da official prez and trump is automatically no longer prez and becomes an intruder in da white house if he refuses to leave after that. what tf u think da secret service is finna do in that situation lmao?
are u stupid bro?
If Trump made a call to arms, I'd be on the Capitol grounds in full battle rattle in 1 hour.
IS IT A REVOLUTION TO FOLLOW THE RULE OF LAW? THAT IS ALL THAT IS BEING DONE HERE. I AM SURE A NEW CONTINENTAL CONGRESS CAN BE FORMED IN LESS THAN 30 DAYS.
Just take a moment and appreciate this moment in history where "satanic pedophilic communists" taking over the country through a stolen election is actually happening....
If 2020 democrats were featured in a zombie apocalypse movie I would have discounted the script as too outlandishly insane.
But we literally have a global pedophile ring striving to end freedom by toppling the USA, outsourcing all of its economic output, and cleansing the country racially. Even democrat Scott Weiner in commiefornia legalized gay pedophilia rape as well as knowingly giving your kids HIV. !!!!!!!!!
These commies literally want to gay-rape your kids and be 'Scott-free' of any charges if the kids end up with AIDS. WTF
Technically, he could also concede :-/.
Trump has a lot of power and choices, he's not backed into a corner, we are trusting him to make the right ones and save our country.
Conceding would basically make him fail his oath and completely contradict his character. I think he said in the GA rally last night he's never conceding.
hope he keeps fighting hard for America and stops the steal.
I think his plan has many levels:
1] To put pressure on weak-kneed Legislators. Plenty of folks who want a gallows show. He wants Repubs AND Dems to feel fear.
2] He feeds off crowd energy, he likes a show of force, particularly to prove he won reelection handily. This affirms his second term mandate.
3] I would like to think he will reveal some of the cards up his sleeve; he's a born showman and wants a BIG reveal.
4] who doesn't like a party?
Or it's a backup plan....
This 100%. Thats my thinking. We are the insurance policy
I actually think the goal is intimidation. Like, I doubt he wants it to get bad enough that we're needed. Most people don't buy a gun hoping to have to paint their wall with a burglar's brains at 2:00 AM. But most people are happy they can do that.
https://thedonald.win/p/11ROCCtZZh/ok-im-making-my-prediction-now/c/
This should be stickied. I feel like so many people are going to be disappointed and confused when POTUS doesn't pull out a superweapon. That was never promised, just hyped here. The superweapon is all of us in DC. If Congress still wants to throw a bird, we'll see what happens.
I feel honored.
Trump surprises people like no one else.
I have been thinking the exact same. He wouldn’t call all these supporters from around the country for a concession of any sort. I feel like an 8 year old on Christmas Eve.
that's the thought, but the election at this point must be turned. It's end game. Anything short of flipping the election is unacceptable.
tbh I'm pretty sure he brought us as a human shield. i'm fine with it.
YOU ALWAYS SHOW YOUR STRENGTH BEFORE YOU ASK YOUR ENEMY TO SURRENDER.
Yeah, this is the hardest part right now. We showed up but don't know the plan. Nervous that we aren't prepared to act and hoping they have it covered.
I think the crowds are needed when Pence rejects the swing state fraudulent electoral votes. They will be a check on any shenanigans.
Billions and billions!
Receiving news akin to "just wait, folks!" will similarly infuriate the Patriots marching on DC. Anything short of total victory is unacceptable.
No, he wouldn't do that. I agree with the Trump card - he predicted this would happen as far back as 2012 and started planning for it as soon as he won. Did he expect so many to stab him in the back, probably not. But millions of supporters will not be silenced.
I cannot WAIT to see what he has in store for tomorrow!
I'll take "No shit sherlock" for a $600 Stimulus check.
Another perfectly reasonable explanation is that Trump knows that the optics of millions of people there supporting him will help him in a debate, with state legislatures, and with his chances in a following election should his efforts tomorrow fail. I don't believe there is some master plan that's supposed to happen, and that's not because I'm unfaithful, but it's because that's how the world works. Trump is a person that makes things happen because he puts himself in a good position to be able to do so. He can't anticipate what will happen any better than many of us, but if something fortunate does happen tomorrow, Trump will be ready and will be in a great position to be successful.
nah, he just wants to walk out on the balcony and say "Sorry Guys, it's over" on every jumbotron in DC." /s
Get a mass of people in DC, force DC mayor to call in the National Guard, Trump can then use the NG at his will.
I think he wants to see the amount of people willing to act if he were to go forward with real action.
Are you ready to finish what we started?
'Nothing can stop what is coming' is not just a catch-phrase.
Are you ready to hold the political elite [protected] accountable?
Are you ready to take back control of this Country?
Devils Advocate is not very kosher round here depending on the post, but my add-on to this is that he just tweeted “be there, will be wild!” fairly late into the evening. It’s at least POSSIBLE he could’ve not thought too much into what he was tweeting. I pray I’m wrong, now there’s just thousands of people who spent thousands of dollars on travel in this mix.
to think that everything that Trump has said was carefully calculated would be silly. He's definitely dug holes for himself with his statements from time to time. It's fine though. I wanted an honest open president. I'm praying for a miracle tomorrow.
That’s my thoughts exactly. I have no choice, until the 20th or possibly a short time beyond, to believe Trump has a master plan in play. Was having everyone show up in DC a crucial part of that plan? Really don’t think so.
User name should be cuckjoe
yeah yeah