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posted ago by LeftiesAreTheRacists ago by LeftiesAreTheRacists +3183 / -0

Let's say Trump had an expectation for Pence to coward out and the votes to go against him on jan 6th but he had a plan to somehow still end up winning. Like if he activated the military after that point and everything to this point was to justify that. But then why invite the crowd? It's a serious morale loss and he knows that Patriots are ready to go 1776 on this. It could cost some people their lives. It would make MAGA look like BLM in terms of violence instead of taking the high road like they've done so far. The move if he expected Jan 6th to be an L would be to not have the crowd.

So the results should be neutral or good on Jan 6th if everything is going to Trump's plan.

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DroolingElmo 20 points ago +23 / -3

the Constitution has our backs. it says the VP has PLENARY power tomorrow.

for your happiness I can report

In United States constitutional law, plenary power is a power that has been granted to a body or person in absolute terms, with no review of or limitations upon the exercise of that power. The assignment of a plenary power to one body divests all other bodies from the right to exercise that power, where not otherwise entitled. Plenary powers are not subject to judicial review in a particular instance or in general.

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Legalese 9 points ago +9 / -0

Nowhere in the Constitution does it say the VP has a plenary 12A power. Pence's powers are definitely subject to debate and he will not have a winning argument unless there is a majority or near-majority (less Romney/Murkowski) of Senators for Trump. Pence does not have absolute authority to dismiss Biden electors; this is why it is absolutely imperative to put McConnell's balls on the chopping block tomorrow.

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Maconstate 5 points ago +5 / -0

There’s a lot of confusion around this. I thought it was only one from the senate and one from the house to contest.

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Ridiculousposter 3 points ago +3 / -0

The fuck is Plenary? I genuinely wanna know.

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Ghost0_ 5 points ago +5 / -0

Full or complete without limitation.

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Atacuck 5 points ago +5 / -0

Fancy term for complete and total. In terms of the Constitution, when a power is considered plenary it means it can be exercised to its full extent and without restraint. Still up in the air whether Pence’s power to reject electors is plenary, but hold on!

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doug2 2 points ago +2 / -0

It forces the issue at least.

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PennsylPede1776 3 points ago +3 / -0

"Absolute." Meaning the power lies solely with him, and can't be usurped by others.

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doug2 3 points ago +4 / -1

Some dude said he met with someone in the White House and cant say who, but that they're optimistic something big/good will happen tomorrow.