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posted ago by KOMMISSARofMAGA ago by KOMMISSARofMAGA +7131 / -1

Just got to my hotel. I see Trump boomers all over the place. In the restaurants, in the hotel, in the lobby, in the CVS, on the road, at the gas station, at the bar, in the mall, on the street. Everywhere!

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D357 25 points ago +27 / -2

No way duck and cover would’ve saved anybody...not without a mask on.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 15 points ago +16 / -1

We had no masks. No rona either, lol

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mct1 6 points ago +7 / -1

Depends on what year we're talking about. ICBMs weren't a thing until 1957, and even then the number of deployed rockets were relatively small into the early 1960s, and most payloads weren't that large (relatively speaking), such that the odds were good that if a CONELRAD alert went out and you hit the deck you were probably going to survive unless you were an unlucky victim of one of those few ICBMs, or just happened to be at the hypocenter of a bomb run. For everyone else, survival was a thing.

As far as masks... a mask wouldn't really have been all that useful due to the limited number of bombs involved before, say, 1962. For a good idea of strategic rocket force dispositions at that time, check here, or go here for to get the numbers directly.

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yukondave 1 point ago +1 / -0

Tsar Bomba (RDS-220) was the 57 megaton Russian bomb that was the largest bomb ever made and dropped in 1961. In 1958 they tested almost 40 bombs in a single year. They had lots of bombs

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mct1 1 point ago +1 / -0

They had lots of bombs.

...and not a lot of ICBMs. If you were in Europe then Russia was a lot scarier than if you were in the US, because there you were in range of their full arsenal of bombers and IRBMs. The US, by contrast, wasn't quite as vulnerable. Delivery vehicles, not warheads, are what determine how badly someone can be hit. That was the reason the placement of missiles in Cuba was such a huge deal, as was the US placing MRBMs in Turkey.

Oh, and for the record, the Tsar Bomba was mostly a dick-waving weapon. It wasn't something that could fit on an ICBM, just barely fit on a bomber at all, and there was only ever one of them. That wasn't something anyone really worried about.

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LessAndLessIronic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Even with modern warheads, there is a very very large area outside the blast site where most injuries will be due to broken glass from the shockwave.

Duck and cover would work. Not for everyone, but it would absolutely reduce the number of casualties, so it really did make sense from a civil defense standpoint. The goal was to reduce the damage by any means possible.

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Anaconda -1 points ago +2 / -3

nuclear war was still a danger way before 1957. both USA and soviets had 24/7 nuclear bombers and nuclear submarines ready to shoot each other just as immediate as ICBMs. in fact the nuclear subs are scarier than ICBMs. at least with ICBMs you get about 45 minutes warning. nuclear subs you don't get any warning at all.

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mct1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bombers were limited in their payload and presented a limited strike capability. It's the reason "Duck and Cover" worked as a policy at the time. SLBMs weren't deployed in large numbers at that time also due to their limited range. But yes, their addition to arsenals provided the same sort of fear that placing missiles in Cuba did: far less warning time to react.

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AnaMerican_1776 4 points ago +5 / -1

KEK!

Well played, Pede!

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Djonpow 1 point ago +1 / -0

But...but..they told us to duck and cover...UNDER our DESKS!...pfttt!

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Angerisagift 2 points ago +2 / -0

Actually plenty of people survived Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but nobody who had their throat slit by glass shards.