Lone wolf shit just gets you killed. It's time to do this right. It's time to dissolve the corrupt Union. This is sadly the end of our country.
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Lone wolf shit just gets you killed. It's time to do this right. It's time to dissolve the corrupt Union. This is sadly the end of our country.
You'll downvote me today, but upvote me tomorrow.
I’m an outsider, I’m not American. I’ve thought this for years. The United States of America is a failed political experiment, I’m sorry to say that. It is broken and cannot be healed. Today is evidence of that. A new nation must be formed.
I'm sure many thought that same exact thing before and during the American Civil War as well, but then America proceeded to become the leader of the free world. Today is evidence of a lot of people seeing injustice and protesting. It is not indication of failure of the nation.
I see your point, and you’re correct that those protests are definitely encouraging. I must say though, it is concerning that the USA is on the brink of a 2nd civil war despite only existing for 245 years. Listen, I like America. I like the idea of it, the systems and the constitutional rights Americans have. However, there is a serious problem when it comes to stability in the nation. Regardless, I sincerely hope this is all sorted out. Good luck and God bless you all.
When you look at it through the lens of wealth migrating from the masses to the elites, there's a reason for anger from most everyone. It doesn't mean we're inherently angry at each other, but the anger does vent itself through political biases, so it appears that way.
Are people generally happy where you are, or are they increasingly angry? Any coronavirus lock downs upsetting people around you?
Yeah, I think that is largely the crux of the issue in America, you’re right. I saw a chart documenting that recently and it’s astonishing. Of course, that leads to frustration amongst everyday people as they find it harder and harder to build a comfortable life for themselves. Where I am, in the U.K, look we have well documented problems. I’m not pretending it’s all fantastic and wonderful. It isn’t. We’ve got issues that need resolving and I foresee potential violence eventually. We do have a sense of overall stability though, that I believe comes from being a mature nation with a head of state that very rarely changes. This stability is in exchange for totally protected freedoms like in the States, but theoretically so long as the monarch is a practising Christian who oversees the PM and Government, then we won’t end up under total tyranny. It’s a delicate balance that works, as crazy as it sounds. It’s also a unifier. c96% of the nation approves of the head of state. This is why we have such stability. Is it perfect? Of course not. Is America better in some areas? Yes, absolutely. But I do believe the US needs to strike a balance and find stability, perhaps as a new nation.
If this is a color revolution, then we will be a new nation, and everyone worldwide will suffer under communism.
If America falls the rest of the world follows.
Did the world fall when USA seceded from the British Empire?
Or did our Independence lead by example, forcing the European Empires to fragment and reform as well?
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Go fuck yourself. Fix your own country then faggot - oh wait you probably can't because your country is more locked down and doesn't have weapons because your ancestors are pussies.
This isn't a failed political experiment, it's the last bastion of freedom on earth.
Seriously, fuck off you piece of shit.
My country is not on fire. My country is not on the brink of meltdown and civil war. My country has lasted for nearly 2000 years. I’m not criticising the USA, what’s happened pains me and I can see it clearly hurts you, obviously far more than it hurts me. If you look at the situation the USA is in, with rampant fraud, extreme divisions and a totally corrupted political class, it’s safe to say the United States of America has not worked out the way that was hoped. I don’t even think the founders would disagree with that. I’m sorry to say it, I really am. But the only solution left is to create something new, something more stable.
No the solution is to fix corruption. You don't rewrite the Bible because some blip on the radar of history. You fight back.
Believe me, if your country isn't the USA you are way farther down the road of pain than we are. Good luck.
If you truly believe the corruption is fixable then good. That’s what I want to hear, that’s hopeful. I just think that’s becoming increasingly impossible personally but I wish you luck in doing it. I disagree with your last part in light of current events, but regardless, good luck to you too.
Did George Washington "fix" London?
Secession has been the only positive force in history.
Biden is China
China would never invade the U.S.
That's retarded.
They already did. They own the majority of both coast lines, they infiltrated the school, academic, research institutions, etc etc
The Chinese prefer indirect means, in any case. They play long game.
By your logic all countries should unite into one against China. Ready to accept France and Saudi Arabia as new US States? Nonsense!
We can still have military alliances and be even stronger against China. Our example would inspire the Chinese dissidents to secede from Beijing!
If you think the federal government is going to let states secede, you are not thinking clearly.
They would identify leaders of the movements, they would get epstiened and that would be that.
I don't think they have the balls to do anything.
Secession is not a workable strategy here. We are far more intermingled in terms of infrastructure etc. Than we were in the 1860s. We must clean house and it will be very ugly.
This is something I hope everyone here has been preparing for. Hubby and I have. We are a route to a battleground suited to our resources and skill set.
If you are he'll bent on secession then I highly suggest you get to a deep red area and concentrate on encouraging any leftists to move out. We can't secede unless we can isolate the leftists in the cities and buy back the critical infrastructure that China bought up over the years. But even then secession would leave us with a very huge number of functional psychotic and hardened commies on the doorstep.
So instead of secession, you're advocating for revolution?
Are you going to go out and clean house with your rifle and kill cops? No, you aren't.
Secession is the political response to this.
Well, we need several years of sustained fucking peace and a shitload of planning and resources to do it. What part of It Is Not Practical or possible as things stand are you not getting?
Only Texas has an independent energy grid, for starters. And China owns, outright, probably forty percent of our agriculture along with other critical infrastructure.
So, you want to give California AZ, UT, CO, OR? Because at the least they need AZ, they get much of their water from there and a chunk of their power. Cali is unsustainable as it stands and has been for decades.
Not to mention Lincoln set precedent that secession is illegal and unconstitutional. The case can be made he was full of shit of course. But as it stands now, the communist left has effectively infiltrated every aspect of the republic and The Chinese and other foreign influences own another good chunk.
So even if we had a place to secede to and were allowed to do so, we would still be stuck with enemies within and on the doorstep. So we would be rapidly taken back over.
Nobody wants a fucking war of any kind if they are sane. Our enemies are not sane. But from a logical rational assessment our situation is untenable if we want to preserve the constitutional republic. The communists and leftists will not go away.
Secession?
Revolution.
I agree. We must fall back to the state levels and form a new union of states.
China would never invade the South, they’d take out the West Coast and New England but it would stop there. Time for Texas to secede
SECESSION IS THE ONLY THING STILL WORTH TALKING ABOUT!
For starters we need political migration to a single small state / county, ideally not landlocked. Buy up all the land, vote out all the commies, and do Gandhi-style non-violent resistance - an ORGANIZED refusal to pay Federal taxes, open Civil Disobedience (like the Boston Tea Party), Internet outreach, etc...
I read that as "Sessions' and laughed out loud.
I know about politics than you ever will, you little bitch. Watch who you talk to on this site.