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Definitely pardon all the protestors today because:
"Nothing that we have achieved that has been about progress has come without a fight, so I am always going to interpret these protests as an essential component of real democracy" -Kamala Harris
... lol Literally from Snowden himself. According to Snowden, the CIA hired him after he dropped out of high school from a job fair.
They don't repeat this part much, because it sounds so fucking stupid.
Then he was just so "moral" that he tried to blow the whistle (on a really tame incident, by CIA standards) and failed, thus completely bungling an overseas mission and outing the whole project. But it was fine; this type of thing apparently has no bearing on any future security clearances, so he flipped right over and got a job at the NSA.
They also neglect to mention this part, because, again, it just sounds so fucking stupid.
This is all such public knowledge that it's available on his (very sanitized) Wiki page.
I guess what I’m referring to is the recent narrative that he was some sort of CIA agent sent in to sabotage NSA and what he did was part of some intraagency spat.
The public stuff I have no need to question about.
This "narrative" isn't recent: it's something some of us crazies have said since he first came out with the info. I was banging this drum in the Gruaniad circle jerk comment section before I got banned and GG got paid off.
The other option, is that the CIA is so fucking stupid and shitty as an organization that they can't manage basic opsec: they hire random dropouts from fucking job fairs, let them blow up top secret missions overseas then quit with no reprisal, don't mess with their security clearances, then allow sister organizations to hire them on as contractors apparently without even a warning.
Oh, and the NSA too: they apparently ignore work history. This guy was low level, Valerie Plame type of guy; he wasn't a real agent or anything, so his identity wasn't a secret. Either the NSA didn't know, or they didn't care. If they didn't know, it's because this was kept from them. If they didn't care, then why did they suddenly start to care massively when he did the exact same thing he supposedly did at the CIA?
If you've got a better idea--one that doesn't assume that every single level of the CIA and NSA are so goddamn incompetent that they couldn't run a diner let alone an intel agency--then I'd love to hear it.
And as far as where I got it... Like I just sometimes spontaneously have these things called "thoughts" that arise from the ether I guess.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to upset you: I thought I was being witty. I know everyone is a bit sensitive right now, so I should have been more thoughtful. I honestly haven't heard anyone else talking about it outside of a few randos on the internet well after I brought it up. I should have been clearer instead of being snarky. (Also, you should see me being salty: that ain't me being salty. lol)
No, I have a ton of reasoning: I don't think they're incompetent. I don't think everyone at every single level of government sucks at everything they do because they're just so stupid--I think that's a cop out that is used to protect these amoral assholes whenever they do something untoward.
But hell, if they are in fact hiring high school drop outs "cuz dey so smurt," then yeah maybe that is the issue... But I also think that's actually way, way worse than if they were just having an inter-agency war over funding, as ugly as it got. Remember the power these groups have. The idea that they're just that fucking stupid is terrifying.
Honestly, I'm not even really sold on the "interagency spat" idea, tbh: it just seems like a decent explanation given the information we have. If you've got a better one--one that doesn't rely on everyone being a retard--again, I'd love to hear it.
... But still: job fairs? The CIA does job fairs? You gotta admit: the image brings a smile. ;)
I would just say the narrative that he collected all of that info and then released it publicly because he was upset by what was going on is both his documented claim and more believable to me than the other scenario presented.
Yeah cause Assange helped him soooooo much by admitting Seth rich was the leaker, right. Lol. He hated Trump and didn't want to help him. He just wanted Hillary to lose more.
How can an American President Pardon an Australian citizen held in a maximum security British prison? I'd just send seals. The British are barely a country any more anyways.
Snowden exposed the white hats in the NSA that were tracking the black hats in the CIA and FBI for targeting Americans. He fucked it all up for years. Fuck that guy. NSA are military. CIA and FBI are corrupt as shit. He was on the wrong side.
Definitely pardon all the protestors today because:
"Nothing that we have achieved that has been about progress has come without a fight, so I am always going to interpret these protests as an essential component of real democracy" -Kamala Harris
We can dream
Kamala has a dweam
It doesn't matter. They won't respect the pardon. The rule of law is dead. The law for thee but not for me is the new rule.
Scorched earth policy! I agree! Although I think Snowden was CIA. Fuck it, burn it down!
Can I ask where this narrative originated? Was it infowars or something?
... lol Literally from Snowden himself. According to Snowden, the CIA hired him after he dropped out of high school from a job fair.
They don't repeat this part much, because it sounds so fucking stupid.
Then he was just so "moral" that he tried to blow the whistle (on a really tame incident, by CIA standards) and failed, thus completely bungling an overseas mission and outing the whole project. But it was fine; this type of thing apparently has no bearing on any future security clearances, so he flipped right over and got a job at the NSA.
They also neglect to mention this part, because, again, it just sounds so fucking stupid.
This is all such public knowledge that it's available on his (very sanitized) Wiki page.
Ok I need to follow up.
I guess what I’m referring to is the recent narrative that he was some sort of CIA agent sent in to sabotage NSA and what he did was part of some intraagency spat.
The public stuff I have no need to question about.
This "narrative" isn't recent: it's something some of us crazies have said since he first came out with the info. I was banging this drum in the Gruaniad circle jerk comment section before I got banned and GG got paid off.
The other option, is that the CIA is so fucking stupid and shitty as an organization that they can't manage basic opsec: they hire random dropouts from fucking job fairs, let them blow up top secret missions overseas then quit with no reprisal, don't mess with their security clearances, then allow sister organizations to hire them on as contractors apparently without even a warning.
Oh, and the NSA too: they apparently ignore work history. This guy was low level, Valerie Plame type of guy; he wasn't a real agent or anything, so his identity wasn't a secret. Either the NSA didn't know, or they didn't care. If they didn't know, it's because this was kept from them. If they didn't care, then why did they suddenly start to care massively when he did the exact same thing he supposedly did at the CIA?
If you've got a better idea--one that doesn't assume that every single level of the CIA and NSA are so goddamn incompetent that they couldn't run a diner let alone an intel agency--then I'd love to hear it.
And as far as where I got it... Like I just sometimes spontaneously have these things called "thoughts" that arise from the ether I guess.
You really have no reasoning or evidence as to why it’s some sort of spat between them or traitorously motivated though?
I get they are both incompetent. I wasn’t doubting that anywhere.
No reason to be snarky about a conclusion that doesn’t have much logic behind it.
Not sure why people who create stories out of thin air get salty very quick.
Actually looking at my last sentence again maybe I do???
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to upset you: I thought I was being witty. I know everyone is a bit sensitive right now, so I should have been more thoughtful. I honestly haven't heard anyone else talking about it outside of a few randos on the internet well after I brought it up. I should have been clearer instead of being snarky. (Also, you should see me being salty: that ain't me being salty. lol)
No, I have a ton of reasoning: I don't think they're incompetent. I don't think everyone at every single level of government sucks at everything they do because they're just so stupid--I think that's a cop out that is used to protect these amoral assholes whenever they do something untoward.
But hell, if they are in fact hiring high school drop outs "cuz dey so smurt," then yeah maybe that is the issue... But I also think that's actually way, way worse than if they were just having an inter-agency war over funding, as ugly as it got. Remember the power these groups have. The idea that they're just that fucking stupid is terrifying.
Honestly, I'm not even really sold on the "interagency spat" idea, tbh: it just seems like a decent explanation given the information we have. If you've got a better one--one that doesn't rely on everyone being a retard--again, I'd love to hear it.
... But still: job fairs? The CIA does job fairs? You gotta admit: the image brings a smile. ;)
I would just say the narrative that he collected all of that info and then released it publicly because he was upset by what was going on is both his documented claim and more believable to me than the other scenario presented.
And our Patriot, Kyle Rittenhouse🦅🇺🇸
Not a federal crime
Go quietly? IT'S NOT JANUARY 2025 YET!
Nah fuck that. Not enough. Declassify every single document in government history. EVERY SINGLE ONE!
Deep state CIA, FBI and Stade Dept. stopping declassification and release of everything.
Is DC law federal? He could pardon everyone.
I think he's tired now. He's finally tired. I'm guessing they finally broke him after Pence's betrayal.
He probably just needs to rest... 4 years of relentless attacks and even the courts joined in. His staff joined in, and Pence too...
Yeah cause Assange helped him soooooo much by admitting Seth rich was the leaker, right. Lol. He hated Trump and didn't want to help him. He just wanted Hillary to lose more.
Snowden is a clown glowfag
Grow up
I want to know about the aliens... 👽
Agreed. Minus the Antifa instigators.
He should of a long time ago.
Release the UFO info also
Kyle Rittenhouse MUST be pardoned
Snowden is a CIA traitor
DECLASSIFY EVERYTHING, PARDON SNOWDEN AND ASSANGE AND DECLARE TAIWAN A FREE NATION.
Except those Antofagasta fuckers who stormed the capital.
🖐🏻
He ain't goin nowhere
UK won't extradite Assange to the U.S.
He won't be able to. They are going to remove him from Office via the 25th.
How can an American President Pardon an Australian citizen held in a maximum security British prison? I'd just send seals. The British are barely a country any more anyways.
He ain't going anywhere...
Parsons? Bro...
He has precious little time to declare the insurrection act
No powers to do so...pretty sure they removed him.
Assange, yes. Not Snowden. He's a traitor.
Snowden exposed the white hats in the NSA that were tracking the black hats in the CIA and FBI for targeting Americans. He fucked it all up for years. Fuck that guy. NSA are military. CIA and FBI are corrupt as shit. He was on the wrong side.
Also, get off his ass and arrest the traitors!