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Piroko 1 point ago +1 / -0

no internet

You don't know how the backbone is architected. Your fears are unwarranted.

no delivery of any good manufactured outside of the state

You don't know how delivery systems work either. Get Tennessee and Kentucky and you have FedEx and UPS by the balls.

good way to start a country

There are no good ways to start a country, only necessary hardships to deal with the intolerable preceding one.

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Piroko 1 point ago +1 / -0

two

Try twenty.

If Texas secedes, the midwest does too.

To put it bluntly, if you get the midwest to secede, the Union will have to capitulate and acknowledge secession in order avoid starvation.

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Piroko 1 point ago +1 / -0

And you have some really weird misconceptions about how the economy works and who has real power.

Just twenty five thousand farmers could kill this country if they were committed to a two year plan of deliberate non participation in the economy.

A hundred million people would die.

Is this good? No, of course not.

But it illustrates who has real power.

Modern society has lost sight of reality. The reality is the red states have virtually all the cards and they aren't playing the game like they are.

Natural gas comes from red states. Shut off the pipelines and the north dies. Gasoline comes from red states. Shut off the supply and the north can't move.