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unable_afternoon 4 points ago +5 / -1

It doesn’t matter what they advocated. None of them voted for lincoln and none of them wanted him. They had no incentive to stay in the union so they declared independence. Lincoln invaded a foreign country

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clampie 1 point ago +1 / -0

Their incentive to enskave people is not a right to secede.

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unable_afternoon 0 points ago +1 / -1

Yeah, and Great Britain’s xenophobia is not a right to leave the European Union, right?
Same thing.

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jiujiujiu 1 point ago +1 / -0

The incentive to stay was the Constitution signed by our founding fathers. Just because you lose one election doesn't mean you pick up your toys and go home.

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unable_afternoon 1 point ago +1 / -0

yes but they decided it wasn't worth it. things were different before the civil war. people viewed the united states as a union rather than a single country. if america was going to war they would say "the united states are going to war", rather than the united states is going to war.
it's basically like if the european union declared war on great britain over brexit