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posted ago by plymouth4555 ago by plymouth4555 +18 / -0

I've been noticing alot of doom and gloom spreading like wildfire on here after the election was certified earlier, so I'm going to try and help head some of it off with this post. Before I get started I want to make sure you know a few things.

Firstly, I am not an American, I'm a neighbor, but I'm not directly in the line of fire, I've been watching and listening to the goings on of your most recent election very closely and carefully, but I'm not an expert in any sense of the word, so take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt.

Secondly, my perspective may be inaccurate as I suffer from a mental disability, specifically High Function Autism, as well as depression.

What I'm about to say is mainly going to be personal speculation and hypothetical, opinions based mostly on guesses as educated as I can currently manage given the current state of things in mainstream media as well as independent journalism.

It is my personal view that factual information, is currently under attack in the media world, both mainstream and independent, how do I know this? I don't, its a guess. Based on what I'm currently seeing and hearing, elements of the media, on all sides, and in the middle, are taking the exact facts of events, and omitting certain elements of it, whether knowingly, or unknowingly, at times in good faith simply for the sake of summary, and at other times in bad faith for the sake of pushing a (I hate this phrase cuz it sounds 2-dollary) "false narrative".

This may just be a long winded way of stating the obvious, but please bear with me here, I'll find my stride eventually.

Next up I want to address the doom and gloom setting in with a theory, I think Trump may be playing a longer game than any of us realize. What do I mean? I'll explain. Since the election in early November, what has he been doing? He has been working to get the fraud brought before a judge, he's been seeking a legal remedy to the problem, yes?

Thus far, every time he has brought his case before the courts, it has been shot down for procedural reasons, meaning, to simplify it, because some of the i's weren't dotted, and some of the T's weren't crossed, in a manner of speaking. Why has this been a problem? Put bluntly, trumps legal team has been racing against the clock, trying desperately to get these cases into the court far more quickly than they would normally have to be prepared for presentation otherwise. What does rushing usually equal? Mistakes, spelling errors, things typically corrected by proofreading and revising drafts until said mistakes have been corrected and the case is ready for the court.

Effectively its the difference between a book's rough draft, and a finished novel, yes? Trump's legal team have been working with the deck stacked against them, and mistakes the judges can use as a reason to refuse to rule on the case have been rife, because they haven't had enough time to proof-read it. Im not entirely certain legal remedy while fighting the clock has been the intention, Trump has never struck me as one to be rushed about the things he does, but I'll get into that later.

Next up lets look at some of what he's said and posted in the last 24 hours, it will help frame the point I'm building toward here. lets pop back to his call-outs to pence pre-backstab, he was calling on pence to be the deciding factor in whether the electoral votes would be certified on the 6th, this makes me think, Trump was hedging his bets on pence, hoping he'd do the right thing.

Next lets briefly look at a rumor I've been hearing floating around, something pertaining to pence being a pedo who fucked 180+ kids, I've also seen a risque picture of him in skimpy clothing floating around, not sure if it was real, but it didn't look photo-shopped to me. Now for a moment lets assume its true, during the certification pence's body language screamed of defeat, he looked unhappy, tired, and detached.

This could be the result of the days goings on, it could be he learned that his staff shot and killed a trump supporter, but it could also be that someone behind the scenes, within the deep state may have gotten to him, and blackmailed him either with proof of his crimes. If we assume its not true, then we still know the rumor is floating around regardless, and there remains a possibility that someone may have threatened to destroy his life using outrage culture and the weaponized nature of social media.

Closing on this point, did they turn pence with blackmail? threats? was he given no choice? these are possibilities, but only speculations.

Next, on to where things start to get spicy after the rally, the first tweet we see after the rally is trump calling for the crowd to remain peaceful and support the police, could this be double speak? Maybe, but I don't really think so, as I'm not convinced the rally was Trump's end-game, i think that may still be yet to come.

He posts calling for the crowd to remain peaceful again, then there's the two censored tweets, one of which is a video of trump telling the protestors to go home, to be peaceful, and to be safe. Whats odd about this? Look at the greenery in the background, its still alive, still quite clearly thriving, and it looks much warmer out than it currently is. This suggests to me, this video may have been made well in advance of the protest, months in advance. To me, this suggests Trump is thinking alot farther ahead than the left would like to believe he is.

If I'm right, this means he knew the protest turning violent was a distinct possibility, likely long before he announced the rally. To me this suggests Trump doesn't do ANYTHING half cocked, or by the seat of his pants, if he's taking a step forward, he's already thought it, and the next 9 steps after out, in great detail. What do I base this on? The man has gone bankrupt 6 times, yet still remains worth billions today, you don't come back from bankruptcy 6 times by just being so filthy rich you never run out of capital, you do it by using all the tools and resources you have to their max, and by out-thinking your opponents before they've even made their first move.

Next let's move onto what he did after the capitol was stormed, its not certain where he went or what he did, but my theory, based on codemonkeyz analysis of ATC records, what I think he did, was jump on a plane, and fly to an air force base in Texas to wait and see if congress would try and force him from office with the 25th amendment, what's this based on? codemonkeyz analyzed the flight path of a Jet similar to AF1, designated Night76, that was supposedly a military control aircraft, much like a flying command center, but NOT air force 1. Why do this? To my knowledge, air force 1 is tracked where-ever it goes, by publicly available sites that anyone can access, the same may not be true for the aircraft that took off from DC, and flew to texas.

Was Trump on board? I think so, what do I base this on? From what I'm aware, pences chief of staff tried to go to the white house not long after congress got back to certifying, when he got there, he was refused access, they wouldn't let him in. Why? Lets assume trump hopped a plane out of town, his newly proven enemy's chief of staff has shown up at his door, if he gets in and finds out trumps not there, whose the first person you think he'll call? And what happens when pence finds out trump has hopped a plane to an air force base, staffed by some of his most loyalist military supporters? My money says the 25th amendment would be on the lips of every single member of congress. Right now, it isn't, If I'm right about this, it means pence doesn't know Trump has left the capitol.

Next, why would Trump leave in the first place? To explain this we have to look at what he tweeted before the mess again, remember he called for peace and for protestors to go home? The Insurrection Act of 1806 has a requirement that has to be fulfilled before it can be invoked, if there's a danger of insurrection, the president has to first order the insurrection to stop, he has to try and calm the anger, once this is done, he can invoke it. I think the insurrection act was an insurance policy that Trump set the stage to use, if congress tried to push for the 25th amendment, mainly as a last resort if they try to oust him by force. I'm not sure if there's a time limit on when he can invoke it, for all i know his ability to do so may be valid right through the 20th.

If so, this may mean that right now, Trump NEEDS the crowd to remain peaceful, and to go home, so that he can keep the insurrection act in reserve, just in case he needs to use it, if things become violent before the 20th, Trump may have no choice but to invoke the insurrection act, in which case EVERYONE and EVERYTHING gets locked down and martial law is declared until the insurrection is quelled. Now I doubt Trump would use this to go after his supporters, my guess is it would simply serve as pretext to begin reversing the steal by executive authority.

Trump has planned for this approach and likely knows exactly what he intends to do step by step in great detail if it comes to pass, but its only one of the options he has planned on the table right now. Trump is a business-man, and a show-man, put these two things together, and you've got a magician who knows his way around a negotiation, and how to put on a convincing show with one hand while the other works its magic. The other plan might be to simply make sure everyone gets a chance to do the right thing. Yesterday, Trump gave congress a chance to do the right thing, and when the crowd got violent, he also gave them the chance to do the right thing and asked them to go home, peacefully, whether he expected them to listen I'm not certain, but I'm willing to bet he was counting on them to listen.

Congress didn't take the chance, nor did pence, they've thrown their's away, the only ones left now to give a chance are the courts. So far his cases have been thrown out, and rejected, never denied or ruled on, judges have effectively refused to look at it until its presentable, Trump has a very good very experienced lawyer on his side, Giuliani, but hasn't had alot of time yet to handle this legally, and he's almost certainly aware it will take more time than he currently has left to prepare for court properly, the rushed ones with mistakes may have been plays for time, they may also have simply been to see if he could get the courts to rule on the merits despite the mistakes given the urgency of the matter.

My guess is trump wasn't willing to take "I'm not looking at this in its current state" as an answer, positive or negative, but more as refusing to make a choice, Trump also hasn't really struck me as the "you're with me or against me, no in between" type, nor has he framed himself that way during his presidency or his fight for re-election. Going this route would undermine what he's been trying to do from day one, which was make the country great again, not divide it, a whole country is always stronger, greater, than a divided one.

I think Trump means to give every level of the country's government the political equivalent of a quality check, so he can root out the bad apples, and remove them all at once so they don't spoil the bushel. I don't know exactly how he intends to go about this, but I've laid out my best guesses and theories on this as clearly as I know how to do.

In Summary, trump has more than one way of finishing this currently available to him, but to some extent, whether he retains or loses some of those methods is up to the people supporting him. I think in the 2 weeks ahead things are going to get VERY interesting to say the absolute least, though I can't come up with much more theory wise right now, I've gone over everything I know and understand. I may elaborate more on this later, or post other theories as they come to me, for now, its 6 in the morning, I haven't slept yet, so I'm gonna go and do just that, and hope that everyone in DC follows Trump's orders for the time being, and stays safe.

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plymouth4555 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

help me keep this where people can read it, wanna help head some of the doom and gloom off

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AmazinKrackin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Interesting take and I hope your are right. Pretty depressed today but I still believe he will prevail and I have faith in Flynn and some of the keen military minds in the administration. Not over yet and I think he has throught through these scenarios.

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plymouth4555 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm also not convinced that he's conceded yet, all the evidence of this has been third party posts through scavino (least i think thats his name) on twitter, I'll believe it when its coming directly from trumps account, whether on twitter, gab, or parler, or through official channels.

That being said Its not inconceivable that he may have agreed to a peaceful transition, since to my knowledge, most of the accusations and crimes he'd be charged with would all be based on inferal of guilt through intent, basically, they'd all be accusing him of intending to do what they accuse him of doing, and to my knowledge, in a court of law, that sort of accusation has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt before it will hold any water legally, otherwise it remains opinion at best, and slander/defamation at worst.

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Zi0ns_walls 1 point ago +1 / -0

I love your optimism pede, I think you could be onto something with the court cases are still ongoing and will get to Scotia.

No way do I think this thing is over

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plymouth4555 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

i dont think its over either, there's more to whats going on than even I can speculate on at the moment, trump's playing a very long far sighted game of brinkmanship here

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swifty123456 1 point ago +1 / -0

i hope your right but i doubt it! you get an upvote!

turmp is just 1 man

the deepstate is a hydra

According to Theogony 313, the Hydra is the child of Typhon and Echidna. The Hydra had many heads. If you cut off one hydra head, two more would grow back in its place.

trump cant keep up everytime he cuts 1 head 2 more pop up! if pence betrayed him he cut off pence! 2 more in his circle will betray him

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plymouth4555 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

thats just the thing tho, yes he's one man, but hes one man with 71 million americans at his back, true a hydra is formidable, but its not invincible, if you cauterize the wound, it can't grow another head, and those 71 million aren't a blade for cutting, they're a red-hot bludgeon for pulverizing and cauterizing, trump isn't just going after the hydra's heads, this game runs far deeper than that, he's going for the heart as well. Trump had planned for pence in advance, and hes almost certainly planned for most anyone else in his circle that might turn on him too.

If he hadn't, he wouldn't be holding his ground and agreeing to a peaceful transition, trump is ready to go to war, but only if he absolutely has no other choice, and he's made sure he has plenty to choose from, all of which lead to the same destination, him winning and overturning the result.

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swifty123456 2 points ago +2 / -0

those 71 million talk about primary them out! if this stands there wont be another fair electoin ever

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plymouth4555 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

thats why I dont think we've seen the endgame yet, not by a longshot.