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jshelton5 37 points ago +37 / -0

Seriously...i mean that was it.

All this could've been avoided.

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muslimporn 16 points ago +16 / -0

I would have to disagree. We want a lot more. First and foremost is for officials to actually do their jobs.

If Biden had legitimately won they would have audited everything and quickly resolved any issues. They did not do their jobs.

This is far wider reaching than just wanting a recount.

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TopSnark 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree audit ballots not recount. Otherwise, a recount is like recounting counterfeit money.

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muslimporn 1 point ago +1 / -0 (edited)

It's not even just fraud. We know on a massive scale they violated election laws using COVID-19 as an excuse.

On all fronts they weakened the election system. International experts and foreign observers conclude realistically the best thing to do was to hold off the election until after dealing with COVID-19. There might be complications with that in regards to US legistlation but pragmatically it's the right thing to do and if you can disregard any laws or standards for COVID-19 then you can that might normally allow you to postpone the election just the same as for example postponing other major competitive events like in sporting.

We know for a fact that they did things you're not supposed to be able to do that not only remove mechanisms for preventing and detecting fraud but also that rig the system such as making it easier for one group of people to vote than another, a two tier system is not just a metaphor.

If you have two timelines, even if there was zero error or fraud...

  • Timeline A, everything is the same including COVID-19 except the election is run normal as always and the mechanism is as if there's not COVID-19 but COVID-19 still influences the voter intent just as much.
  • Timeline B, the election is run the way it was or this timeline where the mechanism for being able to vote is the same.

In timeline B Biden has a chance to win, our timeline. In timeline A Trump flat out wins. Every indicator shows that if this election was run as normal then Trump wins.

So basically this means that the people choosing all those law changes or when to ignore the law are choosing who is more likely to win simply through changing the mechanism of the vote. You streamline it for the horse you're backing while neglecting the opposition or even adding an impediment.

This is in part why the election looks so weird, like it's two elections in one with two divergent results, it's not the only reason but is one of the big ones. This is why by all conventional measure Trump wins but then it swings over the Biden in a way that appears highly deliberate and bizarre. They calculated the minimum that would need to be done to force a Biden victor and rigged it for that in such a way that it's pretty damned obvious. They're not calling is a "fluke" for nothing.

Some of that facilitation includes for fraud but it's not the only thing they did. Issues are all over the place and that in part has hampered legal efforts which have a short time window to get right and really need to be on many fronts while also working tirelessly to quickly eject false positives, etc. It's not possible to get everything right first time but the window of legal opportunity gives a very restricted opportunity and any judges, election officials, etc who have stonewalled, delayed things, etc should be damned.

This is part of a systematic pattern of lawmakers rigging the system, making election changes that make no sense at all except that it gives them more votes. This electioneering is nearly always left wing causes both in the US and abroad. For example, objection to voter id, importing voters or population to boost their votes and EC (their position on immigration makes no sense otherwise), always lobbying for felons to vote including those in prison, kids to vote, trying to get rid of the EC when they lose by it but not the popular vote, trying to add new states to give them more EC, etc. This is in spite of the fact that they're evenly matched or even have an advantage much of the time so really don't need to be doing it unless they're trying to gain single party status.

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wdang 20 points ago +20 / -0

You know if the courts actually went through the evidence, rationally resolved all the questions that have arisen during the last two months and determed there was no fraud. I'd be fine and accept it. But the fact that there were judges who threw the cases out due to "prejudice" and "standing" rather than merits is what fucking angers me

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Cali_Republican 10 points ago +10 / -0

As most people. Like was said last night in congress. They immediately dispatched an investigation for a garage pull, but didn't lift a finger for this.

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27Sandino 2 points ago +2 / -0

Did Gaetz say it?

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Cali_Republican 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't remember, think it was during the PA congress objection time.

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YoureMyFavPerson 5 points ago +5 / -0

The courts are silencing people.

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somaganjika 4 points ago +4 / -0

It was disgusting. The debate went like this: populist congressman reported evidence of fraud and logically requested to proceed with acknowledgement, then leftist congressman denied all evidence of fraud. Repeat.

And now it's disgusting hearing every leftist regurgitate the same msm narrative buzzwords. The dumbass look on their face when I challenge them with first hand accounts is my only relief.

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Formerlurker92 19 points ago +19 / -0

If trump lost a fair election I think people would have been fine. He didn't and that's why this can only get worse

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jshelton5 11 points ago +11 / -0

the unwillingness to reconcile the results inflamed passions and tensions all over the place, and at the very least remains, at least in even an illusory capacity, a suspicious pall on this election cycle.

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meteorknife 8 points ago +8 / -0

Don't forget that they also spit on the Georgia runoff elections after telling us everything was just an honest mistake.

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jbDonuts 8 points ago +8 / -0

The GA SoS stood at a podium and outright lied to every Georgian. He promised to conduct an "audit, canvas, and recount, all rolled into one".

He's a liar who deserves every ounce of scorn, an whatever else the People of GA decide to heap upon him.

He, Kemp, and Loeffler are sellout scum.

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ppalgansaek 6 points ago +6 / -0

I was just watching the latest episode of the War Room and he was showing the clip of Loeffler on the floor with her speech about how she was so committed to rejecting the results, but we had to be punished for our actions in DC yesterday, so she could no longer object.

My blood is boiling.

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jbDonuts 4 points ago +4 / -0

Right before Loeffler spoke I was commenting to my wife about how easy and light the mood seemed to be among these senators who had just survived such a violent siege. Then Loeffler cucked out. Her demeanor betrayed her extreme discomfort. The other Senators were joking around and bumping elbows.

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ppalgansaek 8 points ago +8 / -0

Last night, I was listening to the debate. A rep came up to speak and he was saying something about a judge (who was so conservative) got the case and rejected it and this meant that the evidence was all bullshit. I faltered for a moment and wondered if I was wrong to question the election results. Then, I remembered that they: Refused to have a real audit of the results. They refused to let Republicans watch the count. They destroyed security logs and ignored subpoenas.

If the contested election results were such bullshit, then why are they fighting them so hard?

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meme_oil 7 points ago +7 / -0

worth dying and killing! if my vote dont count my rifle will!

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tiredofwinning2020 6 points ago +6 / -0

Valid recount of the images on the dominion machines , and signature match.

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NucaCola 4 points ago +4 / -0

All I wanted was the play video games, have a girlfriend that’s not a whore, have a good job, own my own house, have a family, and be left the fuck alone!

Now I am neck deep in a grand scheme of global political chess that’s way above my level, and has been going on much longer before my grandparents were even born, and individually I have next to no impact in, yet will determine the very fate of the world, my country, my future, and the life of my children I wish to have! Shits fucked!

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pinchitony 3 points ago +4 / -1

All we want*

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Wierzfe 3 points ago +3 / -0

But then their faults would come to light.

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Spark-001 2 points ago +2 / -0

Since we're legally supposed to get observers all we wanted was what we were promised.

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Goldlight 2 points ago +2 / -0

you can guess why they refused

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kag-2020- 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's why they're gas lighting so hard.

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Kingoftheroad 2 points ago +2 / -0

Change recount to audit and Im with you. I dont need them counting the same fake ballots multiple times

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thebaddyman 2 points ago +2 / -0

cant do reset if we do that tho bruh.

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Pederella 2 points ago +2 / -0

A fair, free election is not allowed.

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HighEnergy_Centipede 1 point ago +1 / -0

FTFY: All we WANT ...

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