What can be done? They can sweep this under a rug and ignore someone confessing to the greatest crime in US politics while pretending the election was legitimate.
No amount of lawfare is going to work; evidence doesn't matter anymore. Everyone knows this election was rigged. The only thing that can change it now is force.
With Joe The Good old money train turns back on. That's why this is happening. A bunch of limp dick m************ wanting money and power that they don't deserve
LOL, some poster here said months ago they would slow roll revelations about election fraud. Eventually, it’ll be accepted but the consensus will be, “oh well too late to do anything.”
While I'm certainly following the developments with optimism, I am cautious about buying into this. Maria Zack, the source, has repeatedly commented that the news is blowing up in Europe. Do a search, that's not true. She expressed special excitement about working with a specific Italian journalist to get the news out. Here are his comments from last night / this morning (translated from Italian by AI):
Trumpian suspicions on the possible Italian side in the alleged manipulation. My position: In the absence of evidence, it is not correct to name people or companies. Opposite errors: taking unproven accusations at face value, or dismissing everything as conspiracy
On social media, from various sources, there are explicit references (but not proven) to people and companies. La Verita, a month ago as today, believes - for due correctness - not to mention names of physical subjects or companies, as there is no proof that corroborates the accusations.
The Journo's statements are suspicious almost as if he was pressured to get out the story or something because he published his own editorial on a personal blog looking site instead of his affiliate's platform:
That is the source article written by that same journo. This article is the one that is copied and pasted and referenced and cut up by every other Italian publication I find posting that story.
We need to verify the court docket as Maria says the IT dude testified in court. You can check this via a public database search but you need a subscription to do so because it requires authentication and credentials to access the portal. That can be found here:
From a brief perusal of Italian politics:
Things heating up in Italy due to the Capitol protest last night. Renzi's supporters are admonishing Conte for not making a statement against Trump and MAGA. It appears that Trump and Conte are established chums, but it sure would be nice if Conte also knows a timely secret or two!! Fingers crossed.
Additional background: Italian PM Conte is in a political confrontation w/ former PM Renzi (who is implicated in the US interference), particularly over Conte's desire to cease COVID restrictions. So, Conte would seemingly benefit from pursuing our foreign interference issue. However, Renzi heads up part of Conte's governing coalition, and Conte's status would be compromised by losing that party element.
I might as well post this info dump (maybe it will provide a little hope) from looking up the guy who signed the affidavit, Arturo D'Elia:
Former consultant for NCI (cybersecurity & missle defense for NATO)
Former consultant for Air Force Office of Special Investigation (AFOSI) in Quantico
Lots of webpages detailing his alleged crimes, including a 108-page warrant reviewed by Reuters, which suggest that there really might have been some crime (rather than simply a spurious arrest for purposes of protection/threat/retribution). However, there are some interesting details which cause an eyebrow raise...
The investigating judge, Roberto D'Auria, stated that the steps that led to D'Elia's relationship with Leonardo were "completely anomalous and unusual." “In his résumé he boasted that he had repaired a flaw in one of the Pentagon's brains." However, he also has a history of a first-degree one year conviction for violating the computer system of a US base in Oklahoma, which could be a huge red flag for cybersecurity and the defense contractor industry. D'Elia got his Leonardo position due to referral from Andrea Biraghi (an executive who was dismissed from the company in 2018 for, presumably unrelated, subcontracting irregularities). D'Elia was referred to Biraghi by the former General of the Carabinieri (national military police) Romolo Bernardi who had been contacted, via a high-ranking Army officer, by Senator Franco Cardiello (of the MSI, National Alliance, then of Forza Italia and head of the secretariat and collaborator of Alessandra Mussolini).
The alleged criminal activity happened 5/2015 to 1/2017. In late 2017, D'Elia, who was no longer working with Leonardo, was actually asked to consult as an "incident handler" assisting the Police and Prosecutor's Office investigate the crime due to his expertise in exfiltrating data and "catapulting" it elsewhere in a matter of seconds. (Also, I should note that his purported criminal activity included skill in remotely wiping all traces of the exfiltration in the compromised machines). "The paradox - added Corriere della Sera - is that D'Elia, when the investigations by the Public Prosecutor had already begun, not only continued to carry out his work as an incident handler to collect evidence of the intrusion, but even supported the Postal Police in the preliminary checks." However, On December 2, 2018, knowing he had been caught, D'Elia, on the phone with his girlfriend, said: "I'm running away, I'm leaving and asking for political asylum." Oddly, some translations report that D'Elia then realized the investigation was aimed at him, as if he didn't know that previously. At any rate, this was a huge cybersecurity event - espionage at a top weapons industry company - but was not publicized until December 2020. It is still unknown if someone else is behind the criminal activity (eg Who was looking at the data once D'Elia sent it to its destination?)
"According to Stefano Zanero, professor of cybersecurity at the Politecnico di Milano, "there are strange elements in this story, from the time frame to the length of the investigations." Another website questioned the sudden acceleration and publicizing of the years-long case during a delicate time in geopolitics when leaders and contracts are in limbo?"
This is crazy. Either these articles are from news sites as bad as the pundit OR they're nearly 100% confirming the Italy Did It. It doesnt out right prove the Affidavit as being real but it does prove this -
That he's not with his family. He was relocated for protection and safety.
That he is an elite hacker. He hacked Leonardo back in 2017 by writing the code for a very elusive Trojan that allowed him to track 33 systems and thus steal 10 gigs worth of selected, very valuable data.
That he's very clever at covering his tracks. He can forensically scrub his traces and thus is also knowledgeable on how find other hackers.
Was a consult to Leonardo after the hack because of his talents. He was basically hired by the corrupt CEO who is tied either Ex-PM , the Obama co-conspirator.
He found and wrote a script the fix the Solar hack and personally worked with the US DoD on applying those fixes.
He was confirmed arrested on or by the 19th per the court confirmation statement.
That he was probably contacted by the Attorney dropping these bombshells because he was detained by Italy's anti-cyberxrime unit and once in detention, was explored for further crimes and cooperated. It is at that point that his affidavit was likely made.
Hot dammed Pede, good ticking job man. Saving the sources as a spring board for further digging.
Edit: this dude is a fucking goldmine. Not only did he hack Leonardo at the behest of the CEO, but he actually helped the US DoD solve the Solaris Hack!
I quote:
Arturo-
I have developed an exploit for the Sun Solaris 5.6, 5.7, 5.8, 5.9, 5.10 vulnerability; I have created multiple scripts for the fix. The vulnerability was present on Pentagon Systems (US AirForce) USAF. I solved this problem with US support.
I have developed a custom algorithm to encrypt / decrypt emails, chats and more It works on Linux and Windows operating systems I have developed a tool for SQL Injections, MySQL, MSSQL, Oracle and PostgreSQL databases. In the main function there is the possibility to dump the entire database. The software was created for Windows (VB6) and Linux (Gambas). The project started in 2006 but is constantly being updated.
Ha, you're right - this guy could fulfill the "LARP." A pede just posted his resume to TDW, so that info is now fresh on the site. Military background, handpicked by government heavyweights, expertise in capturing data, custom encryption, and database injection. BINGO.
No in the video general Flynn released on twitter, the lady said some Congress was made aware of this at the house at 1:12PM... Trump knew this should have came out but the left pull the shot with antifa as a cover up!
Anyone who knew this info in the house and did not object to certify is now a traitor.
Bombshell today? No amount of evidence no matter how blatant means jack squat now. Biden could literally have a press conference and admit everything Trump said was right and they did cheat, and he would still be inaugurated on the 20th. Not even an exaggeration, you all know it's 100% true.
It's not that hard to do. Why the satellite. Just stand outside the building and switch votes. It can be done from anywhere with access and the know how....meh. It's not like anyone even cared in these cities so why all the secrecy. Hell, this guy is a phucking Hero to them. They would throw a parade tossing roses at his feet.
I like this larp shit though. Fun to read in a Tom Clancy novel.
I want to believe. I'm TOTAL TRUMP. I work IT though and just want to understand the sat procedure. If this really did happen we are going to destroy Italy and whoever else was involved. Act of War.
Good call. This forum has many soft trolls who are doomers and don't do enough to get deported. Many first responses to threads are from doomers (R or D).
It is easier for the C EYE A to operate from a foreign country than the USA.
Also, I suspect the world's spy agencies participated. These guys are all in on it together. Trump was going to take the C!A down several notches, so this would have affected foreign agencies as well. JFK and RFK had the same idea. Look what happened to them.
And don't forget the $50 Trillion taxpayer cash that will be up for grabs with Trump gone.
This needs to be STICKIED! It is time patriots to continue the fight. Keep on hammering away with the truth until the democrats squeal. If you thought finding for freedom was going to be easy you are sadly mistaken. This will be a gruelling, long hard battle. It is time to shake off the latest battle defeat and continue to fight damn it! Never give up, never surrender, never take the knee.
All of this was already known by the same senators and congressmen that pulled off the coup. There is literally no information that could come out that would cause any kind of action being taken.
It's simple, Trump either uses an EO based on election interference or he doesn't. If he doesn't, it's over. I'm curious where all the donations he got goes, hopefully not in his pockets..
That's where we're at though, there's no other option to win except what I mentioned above.
So the picture of the printed affidavit that looks like anyone could have done it? Where is an official Italian lawyer website/government website stating this?
Its obvious everyone already knows, the question is what can be done about it and who's willing to do it
What can be done? They can sweep this under a rug and ignore someone confessing to the greatest crime in US politics while pretending the election was legitimate.
I for one think this is a smoking gun and it better lead to mass arrests. And I’m hoping trump with his secretary of defense are preparing for this.
No amount of lawfare is going to work; evidence doesn't matter anymore. Everyone knows this election was rigged. The only thing that can change it now is force.
Pretty much. As long as everyone in congress lives and breaths there will never be freedom ever again in this country.
couldnt this have been done a couple of days earlier. what a strange timing?
With Joe The Good old money train turns back on. That's why this is happening. A bunch of limp dick m************ wanting money and power that they don't deserve
Yeah I thought this was a odd story with odd timing. It seems like LARP but I don't know whats going on.
LOL, some poster here said months ago they would slow roll revelations about election fraud. Eventually, it’ll be accepted but the consensus will be, “oh well too late to do anything.”
A Day late and $1400 short
Don't forget 10% for the Big Guy!
While I'm certainly following the developments with optimism, I am cautious about buying into this. Maria Zack, the source, has repeatedly commented that the news is blowing up in Europe. Do a search, that's not true. She expressed special excitement about working with a specific Italian journalist to get the news out. Here are his comments from last night / this morning (translated from Italian by AI):
Actual articles are being published about this but they lack one crucial citation which is the proof of the court case.
https://www.lunico.eu/conte-finmeccanica-e-lambasciata-usa-dietro-la-frode-per-far-fuori-trump/
The Journo's statements are suspicious almost as if he was pressured to get out the story or something because he published his own editorial on a personal blog looking site instead of his affiliate's platform:
https://lacrunadellago.net/2020/12/29/italiagate-il-governo-conte-accusato-di-essere-responsabile-della-frode-elettorale-contro-trump/
That is the source article written by that same journo. This article is the one that is copied and pasted and referenced and cut up by every other Italian publication I find posting that story.
We need to verify the court docket as Maria says the IT dude testified in court. You can check this via a public database search but you need a subscription to do so because it requires authentication and credentials to access the portal. That can be found here:
https://www.cortedicassazione.it/corte-di-cassazione/it/homepage.page
Go the navigation drop down and select: Italguire.Web
It will lead you here:
http://www.italgiure.giustizia.it/xway/application/m/isapi/hc-light.dll?lang=it
That is the portal.
If anyone wants to find a way to pay for a sub, they could get in and look for the case file.
From a brief perusal of Italian politics: Things heating up in Italy due to the Capitol protest last night. Renzi's supporters are admonishing Conte for not making a statement against Trump and MAGA. It appears that Trump and Conte are established chums, but it sure would be nice if Conte also knows a timely secret or two!! Fingers crossed.
Additional background: Italian PM Conte is in a political confrontation w/ former PM Renzi (who is implicated in the US interference), particularly over Conte's desire to cease COVID restrictions. So, Conte would seemingly benefit from pursuing our foreign interference issue. However, Renzi heads up part of Conte's governing coalition, and Conte's status would be compromised by losing that party element.
okay thanks for this. Is there anyway we can find out if someone really did testify in court? I don't speak italian.
Yes there is a web portal but you need a subscription to access the search function.
I might as well post this info dump (maybe it will provide a little hope) from looking up the guy who signed the affidavit, Arturo D'Elia: Former consultant for NCI (cybersecurity & missle defense for NATO) Former consultant for Air Force Office of Special Investigation (AFOSI) in Quantico
Lots of webpages detailing his alleged crimes, including a 108-page warrant reviewed by Reuters, which suggest that there really might have been some crime (rather than simply a spurious arrest for purposes of protection/threat/retribution). However, there are some interesting details which cause an eyebrow raise...
The investigating judge, Roberto D'Auria, stated that the steps that led to D'Elia's relationship with Leonardo were "completely anomalous and unusual." “In his résumé he boasted that he had repaired a flaw in one of the Pentagon's brains." However, he also has a history of a first-degree one year conviction for violating the computer system of a US base in Oklahoma, which could be a huge red flag for cybersecurity and the defense contractor industry. D'Elia got his Leonardo position due to referral from Andrea Biraghi (an executive who was dismissed from the company in 2018 for, presumably unrelated, subcontracting irregularities). D'Elia was referred to Biraghi by the former General of the Carabinieri (national military police) Romolo Bernardi who had been contacted, via a high-ranking Army officer, by Senator Franco Cardiello (of the MSI, National Alliance, then of Forza Italia and head of the secretariat and collaborator of Alessandra Mussolini).
The alleged criminal activity happened 5/2015 to 1/2017. In late 2017, D'Elia, who was no longer working with Leonardo, was actually asked to consult as an "incident handler" assisting the Police and Prosecutor's Office investigate the crime due to his expertise in exfiltrating data and "catapulting" it elsewhere in a matter of seconds. (Also, I should note that his purported criminal activity included skill in remotely wiping all traces of the exfiltration in the compromised machines). "The paradox - added Corriere della Sera - is that D'Elia, when the investigations by the Public Prosecutor had already begun, not only continued to carry out his work as an incident handler to collect evidence of the intrusion, but even supported the Postal Police in the preliminary checks." However, On December 2, 2018, knowing he had been caught, D'Elia, on the phone with his girlfriend, said: "I'm running away, I'm leaving and asking for political asylum." Oddly, some translations report that D'Elia then realized the investigation was aimed at him, as if he didn't know that previously. At any rate, this was a huge cybersecurity event - espionage at a top weapons industry company - but was not publicized until December 2020. It is still unknown if someone else is behind the criminal activity (eg Who was looking at the data once D'Elia sent it to its destination?)
"According to Stefano Zanero, professor of cybersecurity at the Politecnico di Milano, "there are strange elements in this story, from the time frame to the length of the investigations." Another website questioned the sudden acceleration and publicizing of the years-long case during a delicate time in geopolitics when leaders and contracts are in limbo?"
Some of the more useful sources: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
This is crazy. Either these articles are from news sites as bad as the pundit OR they're nearly 100% confirming the Italy Did It. It doesnt out right prove the Affidavit as being real but it does prove this -
That he's not with his family. He was relocated for protection and safety.
That he is an elite hacker. He hacked Leonardo back in 2017 by writing the code for a very elusive Trojan that allowed him to track 33 systems and thus steal 10 gigs worth of selected, very valuable data.
That he's very clever at covering his tracks. He can forensically scrub his traces and thus is also knowledgeable on how find other hackers.
Was a consult to Leonardo after the hack because of his talents. He was basically hired by the corrupt CEO who is tied either Ex-PM , the Obama co-conspirator.
He found and wrote a script the fix the Solar hack and personally worked with the US DoD on applying those fixes.
He was confirmed arrested on or by the 19th per the court confirmation statement.
That he was probably contacted by the Attorney dropping these bombshells because he was detained by Italy's anti-cyberxrime unit and once in detention, was explored for further crimes and cooperated. It is at that point that his affidavit was likely made.
Hot dammed Pede, good ticking job man. Saving the sources as a spring board for further digging.
Edit: this dude is a fucking goldmine. Not only did he hack Leonardo at the behest of the CEO, but he actually helped the US DoD solve the Solaris Hack!
I quote:
Arturo- I have developed an exploit for the Sun Solaris 5.6, 5.7, 5.8, 5.9, 5.10 vulnerability; I have created multiple scripts for the fix. The vulnerability was present on Pentagon Systems (US AirForce) USAF. I solved this problem with US support.
I have developed a custom algorithm to encrypt / decrypt emails, chats and more It works on Linux and Windows operating systems I have developed a tool for SQL Injections, MySQL, MSSQL, Oracle and PostgreSQL databases. In the main function there is the possibility to dump the entire database. The software was created for Windows (VB6) and Linux (Gambas). The project started in 2006 but is constantly being updated.
Ha, you're right - this guy could fulfill the "LARP." A pede just posted his resume to TDW, so that info is now fresh on the site. Military background, handpicked by government heavyweights, expertise in capturing data, custom encryption, and database injection. BINGO.
ETA: Also might want to check out this investigation into Italy's role in Russiagate. It's more probing than other reports I've seen. Same systems, same goal.
Hell hot damn. So Nunez and Wray actually know what's truly going on?
And if Wray is an anti-Trump, that's why shit never got revealed?
If Italy did it, it was at the behest of China. Italy and China are trying to strengthen financial ties after all.
Italy's populist movement got ripped apart quickly. People think they'll get another shot at it, but if Trump's not in power here, it'll be DOA.
News Flash: Nobody cares nor will anyone do anything about it.
No in the video general Flynn released on twitter, the lady said some Congress was made aware of this at the house at 1:12PM... Trump knew this should have came out but the left pull the shot with antifa as a cover up!
Anyone who knew this info in the house and did not object to certify is now a traitor.
This Italy revelation should have been the first thing out of Trump's mouth on January 6.
Just exactly what the fuck is Trump's problem?
any idea how I can verify this? Think we can put a call for an Italian pedes on here to search for info in their country?
Oh. Great.
Bombshell today? No amount of evidence no matter how blatant means jack squat now. Biden could literally have a press conference and admit everything Trump said was right and they did cheat, and he would still be inaugurated on the 20th. Not even an exaggeration, you all know it's 100% true.
Is there an Italian article on this?
It's not that hard to do. Why the satellite. Just stand outside the building and switch votes. It can be done from anywhere with access and the know how....meh. It's not like anyone even cared in these cities so why all the secrecy. Hell, this guy is a phucking Hero to them. They would throw a parade tossing roses at his feet.
I like this larp shit though. Fun to read in a Tom Clancy novel.
I want to believe. I'm TOTAL TRUMP. I work IT though and just want to understand the sat procedure. If this really did happen we are going to destroy Italy and whoever else was involved. Act of War.
Good call. This forum has many soft trolls who are doomers and don't do enough to get deported. Many first responses to threads are from doomers (R or D).
YoU CaN'T cAlL fOR ViOLeNCe
That's al they can say
It is easier for the C EYE A to operate from a foreign country than the USA. Also, I suspect the world's spy agencies participated. These guys are all in on it together. Trump was going to take the C!A down several notches, so this would have affected foreign agencies as well. JFK and RFK had the same idea. Look what happened to them.
And don't forget the $50 Trillion taxpayer cash that will be up for grabs with Trump gone.
Spread it far and wide. This needs to be in front of disenfranchised. They need to get angrier.
Not without strong counteraction.
Doomer. Blocked.
Zen koan:
If a bombshell explodes and everyone in media and government refuses to acknowledge it happened, is it still a bombshell?
https://www.newswars.com/bombshell-report-massive-dem-election-fraud-operation-from-italy-revealed-president-trump-briefed-on-proof/
This needs to be STICKIED! It is time patriots to continue the fight. Keep on hammering away with the truth until the democrats squeal. If you thought finding for freedom was going to be easy you are sadly mistaken. This will be a gruelling, long hard battle. It is time to shake off the latest battle defeat and continue to fight damn it! Never give up, never surrender, never take the knee.
All of this was already known by the same senators and congressmen that pulled off the coup. There is literally no information that could come out that would cause any kind of action being taken.
how much more proof and evidence is needed for anything to happen of consequence to these criminals?!
Guys its very important we need to do a massive counter PR campaign on all social media and back up everything the purge has begun
None of this means anything. The system is corrupt from top to bottom.
Tweet archive: https://archive.is/bC7j0
Article archive: https://archive.is/B3NEB
Breaking news: it wasnt a damn LARP
Who cares? Shit is over. You could have a video of Biden himself admitting fraud, and he'd still get office.
We do have a video of Biden admitting fraud before the election.
It's simple, Trump either uses an EO based on election interference or he doesn't. If he doesn't, it's over. I'm curious where all the donations he got goes, hopefully not in his pockets..
That's where we're at though, there's no other option to win except what I mentioned above.
How close are we to winning?
So the picture of the printed affidavit that looks like anyone could have done it? Where is an official Italian lawyer website/government website stating this?
Yep...until this is linked, I'm not buying it