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posted ago by KaladinStormBlessed ago by KaladinStormBlessed +3932 / -1

This is what I have been saying to people who can't understand what happened yesterday.

It's the most simple concise response: why did something that has never happened in the history of our elections suddenly happen all at once in the states that ended up determining the outcome?

You can not and will not find an appropriate response, because even Biden supporters in their gut know the answer.

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militantnationalist6 57 points ago +57 / -0

Yep, agreed. It's stupid I think to get off in the weeds about the Dominion machines etc. The most basic explanations are the best. Ex.

  1. You think Biden was more popular in Detroit than Obama who ran as the first black president?

  2. Why do you think Biden underperformed Hillary in every major metro area except, Philly, Atlanta, Detroit & Milwaukee?

  3. Whens the last time a president won 18/19 bellwether counties and lost the presidency? (Hint: Never)

  4. Why did Biden run for president 3 times and on the third time after people not electing him the other two times suddenly decide to give him more votes than anyone else in history?

These are all basic questions to ask people without getting too far off in the weeds with them. People have to come up with a logical answer for these and they can't, trust me, Ive had these conversations.

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danold2024 1 point ago +5 / -4

You think Biden was more popular in Detroit than Obama who ran as the first black president?

??? This is just wrong. Your right of course, but that point seems wrong.

In 2008 Obama got 74% of Wayne County. 73% in 2012. Biden supposedly got 68.2% of Wayne County. So Obama did beat Biden, even Biden's faked numbers.

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Of course they cheated, but they're not dumb enough to pretend Biden could beat Obama's blackness. There's no reason they'd cheat so much its that obvious. You're vastly underestimating the enemy if you think they'll make such bone headed mistakes. It does a big disservice to all of us when people make fallacious arguments for the truth, even when it is the truth.

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BostonVoter 5 points ago +5 / -0

Obama cheated with Dominion. The Election Fraud started Circa : 2004

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danold2024 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sure! But the point still stands that in 2020 the "official" numbers show that Biden performed worse in Wayne than Obama. So stop trying to use "Biden beat Obama in Detroit" as evidence of the steal. That's just false so it's not evidence.

They obviously cheated, but this point is just wrong and does not provide evidence of it. It weakens our position when people continue to use clearly false arguments.