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Teach4Trump 1 point ago +4 / -3

I respectfully disagree.

Christians make mistakes. Ones belief in Christ and faith/forgiveness is not something that we judge kn the merits of their action. He should be reprimanded for his actions in the church, but we can not say he is not a Christian, that is only a conversation for him and God.

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T-Bear 3 points ago +3 / -0

Point ceded.

An emotional use of the "No True Scotsman" logical fallacy.

This, I can say:

The magnitude of his repetitious use of the words, "count ONLY the legal votes", and being found lying about his Constitutional Oath in certifying the fraudulent votes, calls into question Pence's ability to be trusted with any statement - or any Oath/Vow - ever again.

Yes - even this grievous sin was borne on the cross by Christ, and can be washed away.

But EVERY sin, every acceptance of immorality and depravity, has earthly consequences which God does not remove just because we say, "I'm sorry. ", or even "I repent".

The consequence for Pence is that millions of people will doubt the testimony of Christ in so highly lifted of a leader, and will not trust him ever again.

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Nannerbadnanner 2 points ago +2 / -0

Forgiveness doesn't remove consequences. He didn't sell out Trump, he bowed to Satan.