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philasoma 20 points ago +20 / -0

I believe the overwhelming majority are still ride or die MAGA. I was personally incredibly disheartened by Pence's lack of temerity. Trump has stuck up for everyone in the face of intense pressure. Yet, at a time he needed it most, Pence caved. Just awful.

People are just waiting to see what Trump says. Regardless, I don't believe any of Trump's base will abandon him. He delivered for for them time and time again.

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paradox123 6 points ago +6 / -0

Pence was a traitor but Trump passed the ball to him. He didn't commit, he could have done many things but he didn't. Now he's throwing his fans to the lions, the left never did. The enemy felt the weakness and went ahead with the fraud knowing there was no risk. A friendly reminder that Wray and Haspel are still at the FBI/CIA.