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Udabin 8 points ago +9 / -1

It's time for many of you people to grow up. I'm probably older than almost everyone on this site and this beating up on Trump is disgusting.

This man gave up everything he had, worked on average of 20 hours a day for 4 years, against both national parties, the media, the elites, and every other institution in this country and yet still accomplished more in one term than any two term president in my lifetime (which again, is longer than almost everyone's here--judging by the lack of grammar and clarity of thought).

He then had to fight off the most systematic election fraud in US history, under extreme time pressure, and with no court even giving him the simple justice of reviewing the evidence of his case. And still he fought on.

He called for people to come to DC because he thought he had a chance to use that spectacle to persuade Congress and his own VP to take unprecedented action when state legislators refused to do what the should have done in December.

Some hotheads allowed themselves to be carried along with Antifa idiots and a brave women is now dead. Those who went in really did nothing worse than what was done in Wisconsin years ago, but what should they have done? In a perfect world they'd have sat in the seats of the members quietly and refused to leave until justice was done, but that world doesn't exist, especially with the younger types.

So Trump played his awful hand for four years better than any of us could have hoped for; and yet that's not good enough for the keyboard warriors here. Every one of you has someone you love in your life (or you should have if you're normal) whose politics is the opposite of ours here. Would you really wish them dead in a real hot war? Would you be OK with them wishing that on you? This 'cross the Rubicon' stuff was always idiocy and if you thought Trump would really do that, you weren't listening to him. I've watched him longer than most of you have been alive and that's never been who he is, nor should it have been. Maybe some of you have nothing to lose, but lots of us are normal people with families, homes, children and the rest.

He's still alive; he's still viable; and as long as that's the case, we have to regroup and prepare for the next. What we should be focusing on, as some here are doing, is thinking how to make this hurt the establishment--before we send our children to fight and possibly die. Coordinated economic actions; leaving the GOP (a minimum). I'm with Rush--I wouldn't swear off all measures, but talk is cheap and I have too many family members who've seen war and labor camps and watched their loved ones on rail cars. If Poland can throw off the Soviet Union without a shot, we can take down the deep state without sacrificing a generation. Our enemies are not super human and they are not invincible.

Fight for Trump; follow Trump; have faith in the US your fellow patriots and Trump.