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posted ago by Dtom13 ago by Dtom13 +26 / -1

A lot of glowy handshake accounts are posting comments like non-violent civil disobedience doesn't work. Likely FBI agents.

Remember when tens of thousands of businesses in every state defiantly reopened? Remember when we choked off DC highways with hundreds of trucks parked in the road? Remember when millions of us walked around in the supermarket without masks? Remember when we held sit-ins at Twitter and Facebook HQ for weeks?

No, of course not. We never actually did that. I live in a so-called red area and all of the businesses are still closed and everyone wears masks. The trucker strike never happened. Most of us are still compliant.

Civil disobedience worked for the civil Rights movement. Czechoslovakia's Velvet revolution was non-violent and it overthrew a communist regime far more totalitarian than what we have. They didn't even have fucking guns.

No, we skipped all of that. A handful of idiots decided to go full retard and fight with cops and try and storm Congress when both houses were in session. Some were likely plants, but most of them including the woman who was shot were Trump supporters who did not need to be there in the building. they could have stayed on the steps and made their point just as well.

I'm sick and tired of hearing about the four boxes. Yes, the voting box has been taken away from us, but that doesn't mean going straight to the ammo box. There are so many options for civil disobedience that we haven't even tried yet. FBI glowy shill handshake accounts get the f*** off this site.

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Dtom13 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Black lives matter doesn't really have a centralized leadership either. They have figureheads, but no real top leadership. I live in a small town, and a bunch of high school kids organized a bridge overpass rally. Totally spontaneous, wasn't even on social media. I don't like using BLM as an example, but you have to admit that their methods were effective. At least their peaceful methods were, after all the riots, public opinion of them went way down.

Get involved with your local council. Get involved with your workplace and people you work with. Get involved at your school. Yeah, most physical gathering places are shut down for now, but not in every state, and the covid problem will probably magically disappear once Biden is in office.

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WaitingOnTheDay 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are you forgetting people get fired if they have supported trump and shamed at the school, their kids bullied. I live in a very liberal place. I understand there are things I can do, but anything you would suggest is still a whole lot easier if we had leadership and organization.

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Dtom13 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

If just half of the 74 million started to get active, then nothing would happen to most of us. You can't fire 37 million producers. You can't bully 50 million kids.

But yes, leadership is important. Who's our MLK? Who's our Gandhi? Donald Trump was the president, but he was constrained by being the president, too. We probably don't need any single one leader, though, but many of them.