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ContraryMerry 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm reminded of a quote from a Thomas Sowell book. He mentions being born in the south, but raised in Harlem by other family members. He didn't know people came in any other color. until he saw a white person in Harlem for the first time. A lot of people really don't understand how segregated the US was and it wasn't just in the South. White people were always going to Harlem at night for the clubs, but never lived there. Parents used to tell their daughters that black men would attack them if they went to these places to keep them from going. This was NYC and not that long ago. That city has a loooooong history of segregation.

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D0NNIE_DARK0 3 points ago +3 / -0

The Northeast is more segregated than the South in many respects. At least in the South people had familiarity. When MLK visited Chicago he said it was the most racist place he’d been. Funnily enough, I heard from an old timer that some black people thought any white person coming up to Harlem way back in the day was a druggie or promiscuous and to be avoided.

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ContraryMerry 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oh, yes. there's a grain of truth in that. Rarely did you see anyone not black in Harlem. If you did, it was so they could get their drug of choice, which was easily accessed through the entertainment in these clubs. It really picked up in the 20s, when women's dress lengths rose and a new type of woman, the flapper, was born. She was most definitely testing the boundaries and her parent's patience with what they saw as her new immorality. Prohibition hit in 1918 and things went underground. But getting back to your last sentence, messing with a white woman/man whose parents were wealthy and politically connected could get you into trouble.

You know, people really do not give jazz/popular/blues music the credit they deserve for bringing two types of people, who would have never met or socialized, together.

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D0NNIE_DARK0 2 points ago +2 / -0

Prohibition definitely accelerated corruption with gangsters providing booze-fueled festivities for the wealthy and well-connected.

There’s a weird push for interracial couplings in the media more than ever before. I watched television yesterday for a change and almost all the ads were some geeky white man and a crunchy granola black woman. Occasionally you’d see some biracial kids in the mix but it’s all very odd.