OK so let me tell you what's a terrible idea: trying to march on Washington with any kind of violent intent. You may be a proud militiaman and veteran and have all sorts of piss and vinegar in your veins, but you are not the masters of violence. That title would belong to the US military and its security apparatus. DO NO TEST THAT. Mainly because many in that number are ON YOUR SIDE, but are also not about to stop doing their job and violate their oaths. The left WANTS us to turn into the bad guys as much as possible. That's the only thing they have to report on now. Don't give it to them. If you want to avenge her, turn your rage elsewhere, to the people who deserve it most (media).
Edit: For the retards who are downvoting me, you think I'm wrong? You think you can take on the top federal swat teams with your shitty AR? Give me a fucking break. This ain't not Euromaidan.
It's a hydra. You have to cut all off at once (swamprats AND urinalists). And of the two it's the swamprats that have the immediate power.
No one here should go after leftists or normies, that'd be insane, and it'd alienate them, but as far as the first two go I'm all out of fucks to give.
Rolling over and taking it is the worst approach, history shows that time and time again. Deescalation only happens among parties that don't actually want to destroy each other, or where the ones that do don't have the power. That isn't the case here.
Do you know how the British got the IRA to stop bombing their citizens in England itself? By cracking down hard. It's the same way WW2 ended.
In the early 1970s the IRA expanded its campaign to England itself (you have to keep in mind most of the violence was contained to Northern Ireland barring attacking political leaders but that mostly happened when they visited Northern Ireland as well) and in the mid 1970s this culminated in the Birmingham bombing with I believe twenty one British civilians dead. The backlash in Birmingham against Irish people in general was severe and the Brits grabbed, tried and found guilty six Irish where they're still not sure whether it was justified or if they got the wrong guys. In northern Ireland loyalists went on the offensive again launching revenge attacks.
What did the IRA do? They claimed they weren't involved despite the bombs being their make, declared Birmingham off limits to IRA members due to the reprisals, initiated a month long ceasefire and later went back to only focusing on British leaders not civilian targets, and that on Irish soil not English. They didn't attack soldiers (not civilians) in England itself again until the 80s.
Ignoring any judgements there, the IRA wanted all of Ireland including Northern Ireland to belong to Ireland and not the UK. Had the loyalists not fought back they would've achieved this, despite the majority in Northern Ireland not wanting to be part of Ireland.
There are many examples throughout history of appeasement and rolling over not working - again WW2, the Falklands, it didn't work with the USSR before it became too weak to stand, it hasn't worked with China. You need a position of strength to negotiate from, if either the IRA or the loyalists backed down they would've been rolled over by the other. They weren't.
That's different to rejecting an olive branch, such as with Ho Chi Minh and Vietnam before the Vietnam war, but so far none has been given in our case. It's take take take.
Were you there with us on the 6th when 1000 racist, neo nazi, deplorables overtook the largest per capita police force in the world. IN the 2nd most protected structure in the US? The same politicians that said they would combat us till the end - they hid in the tunnels like the rats that they were.
Ashli Babbitt was no hero. She was an idiot. Trump was very clear that he wanted his supporters to come to Washington for a huge peaceful protest -- the biggest MAGA rally ever. He did not want anybody smashing their way into the Capitol.
Ashli was not some naive kid. She knew damn well that Antifa/BLM was infiltrating the crowd, disguised as Trump supporters, and that Capitol Police and other security personnel in and around the Capitol had no way to distinguish between real Trump supporters and Antifa/BLM. She was behaving like an Antifa/BLM thug, trying to smash through a doorway's sidelight window to get through the barricaded doorway and deeper into a secured area. Then she did the most idiotic thing imaginable: She climbed up higher than anyone else in that crowded area, and gave the armed security and LE personnel a clear shot to take her out without hitting anyone else, whether other security/LE or less aggressive trespassers.
If some Antifa thug dressed up as a Trump supporter had gotten into the congressional chambers and killed Senator Hawley or Rep. Brooks, we'd be howling about how anybody trying to breach secure areas of the Capitol was obviously not a legitimate Trump supporter and should have been shot on sight, and Capitol Police and other security personnel must be "compromised" or have "sold out to the Deep State" because they just stepped aside and let it happen.
don't create a martyr.
don't shoot the messenger.
don't hurt an emissary.
Simple History Lessons
OK so let me tell you what's a terrible idea: trying to march on Washington with any kind of violent intent. You may be a proud militiaman and veteran and have all sorts of piss and vinegar in your veins, but you are not the masters of violence. That title would belong to the US military and its security apparatus. DO NO TEST THAT. Mainly because many in that number are ON YOUR SIDE, but are also not about to stop doing their job and violate their oaths. The left WANTS us to turn into the bad guys as much as possible. That's the only thing they have to report on now. Don't give it to them. If you want to avenge her, turn your rage elsewhere, to the people who deserve it most (media).
Edit: For the retards who are downvoting me, you think I'm wrong? You think you can take on the top federal swat teams with your shitty AR? Give me a fucking break. This ain't not Euromaidan.
It's a hydra. You have to cut all off at once (swamprats AND urinalists). And of the two it's the swamprats that have the immediate power.
No one here should go after leftists or normies, that'd be insane, and it'd alienate them, but as far as the first two go I'm all out of fucks to give.
Rolling over and taking it is the worst approach, history shows that time and time again. Deescalation only happens among parties that don't actually want to destroy each other, or where the ones that do don't have the power. That isn't the case here.
Do you know how the British got the IRA to stop bombing their citizens in England itself? By cracking down hard. It's the same way WW2 ended.
You're a fool. Look up what actually happened in The Troubles.
You look it up.
In the early 1970s the IRA expanded its campaign to England itself (you have to keep in mind most of the violence was contained to Northern Ireland barring attacking political leaders but that mostly happened when they visited Northern Ireland as well) and in the mid 1970s this culminated in the Birmingham bombing with I believe twenty one British civilians dead. The backlash in Birmingham against Irish people in general was severe and the Brits grabbed, tried and found guilty six Irish where they're still not sure whether it was justified or if they got the wrong guys. In northern Ireland loyalists went on the offensive again launching revenge attacks.
What did the IRA do? They claimed they weren't involved despite the bombs being their make, declared Birmingham off limits to IRA members due to the reprisals, initiated a month long ceasefire and later went back to only focusing on British leaders not civilian targets, and that on Irish soil not English. They didn't attack soldiers (not civilians) in England itself again until the 80s.
Ignoring any judgements there, the IRA wanted all of Ireland including Northern Ireland to belong to Ireland and not the UK. Had the loyalists not fought back they would've achieved this, despite the majority in Northern Ireland not wanting to be part of Ireland.
There are many examples throughout history of appeasement and rolling over not working - again WW2, the Falklands, it didn't work with the USSR before it became too weak to stand, it hasn't worked with China. You need a position of strength to negotiate from, if either the IRA or the loyalists backed down they would've been rolled over by the other. They weren't.
That's different to rejecting an olive branch, such as with Ho Chi Minh and Vietnam before the Vietnam war, but so far none has been given in our case. It's take take take.
Were you there with us on the 6th when 1000 racist, neo nazi, deplorables overtook the largest per capita police force in the world. IN the 2nd most protected structure in the US? The same politicians that said they would combat us till the end - they hid in the tunnels like the rats that they were.
No, but I am one of those "masters of violence" with whom you do not want to fuck, mainly because I'm on your ideological side.
Ashli Babbitt was no hero. She was an idiot. Trump was very clear that he wanted his supporters to come to Washington for a huge peaceful protest -- the biggest MAGA rally ever. He did not want anybody smashing their way into the Capitol.
Ashli was not some naive kid. She knew damn well that Antifa/BLM was infiltrating the crowd, disguised as Trump supporters, and that Capitol Police and other security personnel in and around the Capitol had no way to distinguish between real Trump supporters and Antifa/BLM. She was behaving like an Antifa/BLM thug, trying to smash through a doorway's sidelight window to get through the barricaded doorway and deeper into a secured area. Then she did the most idiotic thing imaginable: She climbed up higher than anyone else in that crowded area, and gave the armed security and LE personnel a clear shot to take her out without hitting anyone else, whether other security/LE or less aggressive trespassers.
If some Antifa thug dressed up as a Trump supporter had gotten into the congressional chambers and killed Senator Hawley or Rep. Brooks, we'd be howling about how anybody trying to breach secure areas of the Capitol was obviously not a legitimate Trump supporter and should have been shot on sight, and Capitol Police and other security personnel must be "compromised" or have "sold out to the Deep State" because they just stepped aside and let it happen.