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Olds77 30 points ago +31 / -1

Half the country is liberal, but the definition has changed so much that many folks have gotten off the bus and on our train. Let's keep them and keep winning more over.

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huntfishpede 11 points ago +11 / -0

It is liberal to be conservative now, meaning we are trying to liberate ourselves from this dystopian society being pushed on us to conserve our constitution and the liberty / liberalism that it fostered.

Liberals and conservatives are one in the same now, collectively we just have not realized who the real enemy is and how extensive their network is.

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ayatollah 5 points ago +6 / -1

Yeah, the people who call themselves "liberal" are the most illiberal people. They want to use government power to usurp liberty and property.

Here's the thing, what gave rise to modern liberalism is the secularism of the enlightenment era which itself was a reaction to the darkness of the Catholic Church and the medieval era. They saw so much conflict over theological questions that they just swept it under the rug.

Turns out you can't sustain true liberty without God and the divinity of man, and you fall back into becoming a commie without the divine.

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huntfishpede 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wow, great take. Let's hope this is the age of the second enlightenment and the best is yet to come. I would love for the "liberal" label to be restored to conservatives to want to live free and not be restrained by big government at every step.