Its long been over, but its over for me now.
The people the support Biden, or pretend to hate both sides but spend their time only engaging in Anti-Trump discussion are not worth your time and effort. They're beyond reason at this point. They've either participated in dehumanizing you for the last four years, or have stood by and watched it happen, deeming it socially acceptable behavior. They will never, ever see things your way by discussion.
One of the big discussion lately is, of course, fraud. No one can deny that if the roles were reversed, they would just accept the results as fair and legitimate. If 400k vote dumps happened for Trump after counting stopped, cities would have burned. If Trump supporting poll workers had retreated to a room, disallowed entry to them and boarded up the windows, there would be riots. I did try to discuss this one last time today after months of not participating in political discourse. And you know what happened? He got mad, and replies got snarkier and snarkier despite me staying very polite and reasonable the entire time. The more logic that hit them, the more he tried to insult my intelligence. Thats your cue that discussion is pointless - and it has been for several years now.
So the last discussion I had was just me pointing out the ban waves to a Liberterian friend of mine. I made no mention of free speech, or even alluded to it being 'wrong'. It was quite simply a 'this happened today' info dump with zero discussion. A liberal friend of hers went on a multi-reply tirade (like 7 separate replies) about how free speech isnt guaranteed on social media platforms and called Trump supporters 'super bananas' and 'rabid'. But the thing is I never made any mention of any of that. I said nothing about what happened other than 'it happened'. Another cue that discussion is pointless - she pulled an argument out of nothing, and already had her mind set on what she was saying.
So the time for discussion is over. Dont engage these people any more. Let them live in their bubbles, and do not even provide them with the opportunity to feel morally and intellectually superior. It doesnt matter what you say or how dumb you make them look or how many times you prove them wrong. They will still feel righteous and morally superior in the end. You'll likely find yourself in an ever devolving spiral of moving goalposts. Any sources you have will be discredited as unacceptable, as it has been for the last 4 years.
So how did I handle these interactions? I simply said, 'ok, you're right'. Let them exist in their bubble. The only way for them to see the truth is to let them see it on their own.
They're either with us or against us.
At this point it's not like we're trying to get their vote. The people who don't see what is happening, haven't been paying attention.
They continue to fight against us, while we continue to fight against evil for them.
A friend of mine sent me a text this morning and after some back and forth eventually said there is no evidence of voter fraud. I just told him I could send you proof, but you'd still deny it. I started to look for some shorter videos that would be easy for him to digest. Then I just said fuck it. I watched every state legislator hearing. Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada. Fucking HOURS OF TESTIMONY. At this point, I really don't care if he believes there was fraud or not. He obviously is just regurgitating what he's hearing on MSM. To the point that his last text said Trump should be jailed. SMH. I'm just going to stop responding to him period. It's the second friend I will be losing over this shit. First one was not my choice. This one will be. And I've been friends with him for 35ish years. Don't even give a fuck. He's retarded.
I haven't written off even my craziest of leftist friends; though none of them are really close friends. The way I look at this is that its not their fault; they've been saturated with 4 straight years of propaganda. My dad was the one that opened my eyes to this; he's always been a news fiend. News news news in the morning, the 5pm, the 6pm, the 10pm. He just doesn't know any better. Now I treat everyone like that - everyone that I personally know of course. Im NOT saying youre doing anything wrong though - just explaining my own approach. I also learned this from my GF's sister and her BF. Shes the typical BLM dum dum and he's a black dude - very well spoken, educated, cool guy and I dont mean rap video tik tok cool guy. I mean genuinely cool/chill guy. She was taken aback once when she saw my gun on the desk and was like 'is that a REAL gun?' And he immediately interjected and said yep thats real. She tried to discuss poltics once and he very tactfully and smoothly redirected. I think he's low key conservative but we dont talk about that stuff because it doesnt matter to us - we get along, like each other and hang out when the sisters get together.
It is pointless to debate or argue with lunatics or fools. They will just drag you down to their level.
TROLL them instead if you must interact with them. That's what our Commander and Chief does.
Maybe there should be riots over the tyranny... thats what gets me the most "this would never happen if the sides were reversed."
Exacrly and we need to fucking think about why.
Because the media is not on our side.
Oh yeah, been fucking over since Nov 3rd. Insurrection Act should’ve been declared by the 4th with military confiscation of all questionable voting machines. Now this festering boil has been left to rot and decay in everyone’s minds but no one wants to be the first to fire.
I feel so bad for people like you going through this. I stopped engaging on social media back when the recession hit and no one gave a shit about all the corruption around it.
The best thing to do is stay informed and compassionate without engaging or placating them. This person is not correct. Companies should not have the power to limit speech while at the same time taking steps to cancel their competition to maintain their monopoly.
We are living in a corporatocracy (where Apple even says that word doesn’t exist).
I don’t know the solution, I wish we had an honest FBI and DOJ. I think the majority is on our site which is why they feel the need to censor. Pretty crazy times. Technological fascism.
Agreed, when they bring up things that were never mentioned in a conversation, that's called narcissism. They are directly portraying their thoughts or actions onto others trying to make those they talk about look exactly like what the narcissist did or is thinking. They are illogical people with zero critical thinking skills at all, they use emotional thought processes in life which is easily discernible in the few seconds they open their mouths. Plus, the women all look like Karens. :-)
Yup. She was trying to convince herself that it was ok, not me.
I will be telling anyone, friends, family that approach me that way to either shut up or fight.
They lie; why cant we?
No I prefer it my way. 'Ok' also works