Forever, without us they have NO tax money to redistribute to the lazy grilled cheese eating, in-employed retards in their mother's basements. Or the morons that spent 4 years wasting their time getting a degree in cultural underwater basket weaving while being indoctrinated in some crap college USA and can't get a job. Without us the country would have gone bankrupt after the civil war. Only money that keeps us going these days, even with trillions of debt, is ALL created by hard working conservatives who work 40-60 hours a week, create business', create jobs and pay taxes.