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Ghost_of_Pinochet 6 points ago +10 / -4

.45 won’t knock you down. Shotguns won’t necessarily knock you down. The gun did fire and you can watch it kick in ways people cannot simulate. Watch a shitty movie with cgi gunfire and you’ll see what I mean.

Audience control? You mean the door? Multiple people with phones?

She was also shot in the neck. Probably had some spinal injury from it (even just impact trauma) and stiffened up as she fell — no head smack. Also, there is blood but it’s not ‘Hollywood’ gushing out immediately, it takes a few seconds.

Keep your faggot ‘ex-theatre’ ass backstage.

She was fucking murdered.

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UnderCoverTrumper [S] -3 points ago +2 / -5

Watch the video again. Blood should be everywhere. The neck has the carotid artery in it. Why do the police waive back the Trumpers but ignore the Antifa people filming. Why is it the only footage is from known Antifa people? It doesn't add up.

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Bluedangle 4 points ago +6 / -2

I’m looking at the fact that she would have to comply with this. She was a 14 year veteran and was wearing the flag. I’m not calling her a traitor!

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UnderCoverTrumper [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

She was airforce intelligence.

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GlacialSpeed 0 points ago +0 / -0

So you may have a unique perspective with your job now.

What do you think is currently happening?

Any chance all the double secret plan stuff involving military is true - or do you think Trump has lost this battle?

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GlacialSpeed 1 point ago +1 / -0

A long long time ago I was a crypto linguist in the service and I keep thinking that military leadership just couldn't be ignoring all of this or ignoring the president.

But like I said it's been a long time ago so I keep wondering if it's all different now with culture changing.

What you said really made my day. Thank you for responding.

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Bluedangle 1 point ago +2 / -1

And?! I see your points but I’m not about to demonize my fellow patriot even the ones that took it too far.

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fthecoup 2 points ago +7 / -5

You are full of shit.

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I_lost_my_password 3 points ago +5 / -2

She was murdered, filmed on camera from at least three different angles. This was not theater.

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fthecoup 3 points ago +4 / -1

exactly. and sadly.

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UnderCoverTrumper [S] 0 points ago +4 / -4

Watch the video again. Where is the blood? Why do the police ignore the Antifa people filming? How does Ashli not hit hear head as she falls?

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madeintheusa 0 points ago +4 / -4

Calling bullshit. A patriot was murdered by our government.

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UnderCoverTrumper [S] -4 points ago +4 / -8

Ex Theater person here with experience in stage fighting, performance art, and martial arts.

It makes me sick to my stomach to write this. If I am wrong, I apologize to the spirit of Ashli and to her loved ones. But I have to share what I know about how these things are staged.

  1. The first issue we have here is audience control. Why are known members of Antifa allowed to stay near the “body” and film while Trumpers are waived back by the police? The “body” is effectively shielded from the audience by the police on one side and Antifa on the other. No Trumper actually allowed to get close enough to verify what’s going on.
  2. The second issue is Ashli’s fall. From both my experience in stage fighting and martial arts, I know how you are supposed to fall. Ashli’s fall is controlled. She DOES not hit her head as she lands. Imagine you have just been shot in the neck - how would you manage to have a controlled fall like that? How would your head not crack on the floor unless you hadn’t been shot at all and were in full control.
  3. Props and wardrobe. Where is the blood? It should be everywhere. This isn’t proof but it’s VERY convenient from a wardrobe perspective that her neck is fully covered.
  4. I’m not a weapons expert. I’ve linked to a video here that discusses the gun’s angle. If anyone here know anything about guns, I’d appreciate hearing your opinion. In the video the guy says he thinks the shooting was staged to get people to stop talking about fraud. I agree and disagree. I think it was staged to start an actual shoot out from angry patriots. Where is the blood? Why are known Antifa members allowed to stay near “body” and film while Trumpers (audience) are told to stay away?
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OhioRiverGator 3 points ago +3 / -0

The clearest video of this shooting was taken by John Earle Sullivan, a BLM/Antifa extremist identified by Andy Ngo. How convenient for him to be at the scene. https://thedonald.win/p/11RhKLT5rW/oh-nothing-this-is-just-the-guy-/c/

Many other concerns- Ashli did not immediately fall back from the gunshot, she slowly fell with her head tucked to her chest, like she was controlling her fall. Why didn't the shooter stay at the scene? When a gunshot goes off, people usually scatter and hide but this group just stood there yelling, waving their hands, and taking pictures. There were police standing right behind Ashli, why didn't they pull her away from the window? It was also convenient that the police standing right behind Ashli could immediately take control of the situation, and wave people away. Why didn't anyone quickly check Ashli's wound? No one treated her in this video.

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UnderCoverTrumper [S] 0 points ago +3 / -3

And of course, we should also consider Ashli's intelligence background.