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.45 won’t knock you down. Shotguns won’t necessarily knock you down. The gun did fire and you can watch it kick in ways people cannot simulate. Watch a shitty movie with cgi gunfire and you’ll see what I mean.
Audience control? You mean the door? Multiple people with phones?
She was also shot in the neck. Probably had some spinal injury from it (even just impact trauma) and stiffened up as she fell — no head smack. Also, there is blood but it’s not ‘Hollywood’ gushing out immediately, it takes a few seconds.
Watch the video again. Blood should be everywhere. The neck has the carotid artery in it. Why do the police waive back the Trumpers but ignore the Antifa people filming. Why is it the only footage is from known Antifa people? It doesn't add up.
I was army intelligence, and I spent 15 years at the NSA and the past three years at the DIA.
Just so you know, we're not automatically bad guys just because we work at intel agencies. My particular special access project, in fact, is 60% conservatives, 30% "I don't talk politics at work" which means closet conservative, and 10% commies.
Don't you fucking worry, we watch them like bald eagles.
If I had to put my house, my car, my life savings and my guns on the outcome of this election, then I would bet on hundreds (if not thousands) of arrests by the end of the month, military tribunals, a nation wide re-election (maybe, depends on how much of this election can be salvaged) and Trump sworn in as president legally before spring.
Trump isn't going to be attending the inauguration on the 20th, because there simply won't be one.
LISTEN. TO. HIM. CAREFULLY.
Listen to what he does say and what he doesn't say. Listen to it carefully. Read it carefully. His words have been chosen extremely precisely for the past two months for a very good reason.
A long long time ago I was a crypto linguist in the service and I keep thinking that military leadership just couldn't be ignoring all of this or ignoring the president.
But like I said it's been a long time ago so I keep wondering if it's all different now with culture changing.
What you said really made my day. Thank you for responding.
Agreed, the acting was terrible and the characters were too outlandish. People posing as Trump supporters were so nasty when you questioned them about info they were spewing. They couldn't hide they hated you and were satin's shills.
Ex Theater person here with experience in stage fighting, performance art, and martial arts.
It makes me sick to my stomach to write this. If I am wrong, I apologize to the spirit of Ashli and to her loved ones. But I have to share what I know about how these things are staged.
The first issue we have here is audience control. Why are known members of Antifa allowed to stay near the “body” and film while Trumpers are waived back by the police? The “body” is effectively shielded from the audience by the police on one side and Antifa on the other. No Trumper actually allowed to get close enough to verify what’s going on.
The second issue is Ashli’s fall. From both my experience in stage fighting and martial arts, I know how you are supposed to fall. Ashli’s fall is controlled. She DOES not hit her head as she lands. Imagine you have just been shot in the neck - how would you manage to have a controlled fall like that? How would your head not crack on the floor unless you hadn’t been shot at all and were in full control.
Props and wardrobe. Where is the blood? It should be everywhere. This isn’t proof but it’s VERY convenient from a wardrobe perspective that her neck is fully covered.
I’m not a weapons expert. I’ve linked to a video here that discusses the gun’s angle. If anyone here know anything about guns, I’d appreciate hearing your opinion. In the video the guy says he thinks the shooting was staged to get people to stop talking about fraud. I agree and disagree. I think it was staged to start an actual shoot out from angry patriots.
Where is the blood? Why are known Antifa members allowed to stay near “body” and film while Trumpers (audience) are told to stay away?
First off, there's no handgun caliber in the world that will push someone back. That's simply Hollywood gunfighting. Trust me, I spent six years in the military from 2002-2008, I've seen dozens of people get shot with much larger bullets than a handgun; they don't push at all. I've watched people with my own eyes being shot by 30mm cannon rounds from an Apache helicopter. The result was gruesome and horrific, but even that didn't push the body back, it just took chunks off.
Yes, almost everyone there is Antifa. This is true and the capital "siege" was a staged event to provoke hatred and outrage at Trump supporters and provide a flash point for de-platforming Trump supporters from all communication information dissemination networks. They CANNOT have us talking right now.
Her fall is not controlled. She was shot in the neck and she stiffened. Look at her left arm when the lands on the ground. Notice the unnatural position. That's something that happens to people who have been shot, their bodies tend to stiffen as a reaction, making arms and legs hang and or stand up in an unnatural position. The left arm position is key. You can't fake that, and it always bothered me when I saw people shot in real life that fell over like that with their arm pointed up in the air. Like, "Why doesn't it fall flat on the ground?" It's something to do with how muscles contract and relax when the body experiences trauma.
Simple. The round missed the arteries and veins. It's not like our entire necks are veins and arteries. There's lots of muscle, bone and spine in there too. Not every neck shot is a jugular shot.
I am a weapons expert. Not only have I fired hundreds of thousands of rounds from dozens of different weapons, but I've seen hundreds of thousands more and I've watched quite a few people being shot both friendly and enemy. Everything about that gunshot is real, from the recoil to the positioning to the aim. In fact, the person firing the round needs a lot more practice because they're a terrible shot. At that range they should have hit center mass easily, but when he pulls the trigger instead of squeezing it, probably because it was a panic shot, he pulls the muzzle up too high before the trigger breaks, turning an easy center mass shot into a wildly high neck shot.
Many other concerns- Ashli did not immediately fall back from the gunshot, she slowly fell with her head tucked to her chest, like she was controlling her fall. Why didn't the shooter stay at the scene? When a gunshot goes off, people usually scatter and hide but this group just stood there yelling, waving their hands, and taking pictures. There were police standing right behind Ashli, why didn't they pull her away from the window? It was also convenient that the police standing right behind Ashli could immediately take control of the situation, and wave people away. Why didn't anyone quickly check Ashli's wound? No one treated her in this video.
.45 won’t knock you down. Shotguns won’t necessarily knock you down. The gun did fire and you can watch it kick in ways people cannot simulate. Watch a shitty movie with cgi gunfire and you’ll see what I mean.
Audience control? You mean the door? Multiple people with phones?
She was also shot in the neck. Probably had some spinal injury from it (even just impact trauma) and stiffened up as she fell — no head smack. Also, there is blood but it’s not ‘Hollywood’ gushing out immediately, it takes a few seconds.
Keep your faggot ‘ex-theatre’ ass backstage.
She was fucking murdered.
Watch the video again. Blood should be everywhere. The neck has the carotid artery in it. Why do the police waive back the Trumpers but ignore the Antifa people filming. Why is it the only footage is from known Antifa people? It doesn't add up.
I’m looking at the fact that she would have to comply with this. She was a 14 year veteran and was wearing the flag. I’m not calling her a traitor!
She was airforce intelligence.
I was army intelligence, and I spent 15 years at the NSA and the past three years at the DIA.
Just so you know, we're not automatically bad guys just because we work at intel agencies. My particular special access project, in fact, is 60% conservatives, 30% "I don't talk politics at work" which means closet conservative, and 10% commies.
Don't you fucking worry, we watch them like bald eagles.
So you may have a unique perspective with your job now.
What do you think is currently happening?
Any chance all the double secret plan stuff involving military is true - or do you think Trump has lost this battle?
If I had to put my house, my car, my life savings and my guns on the outcome of this election, then I would bet on hundreds (if not thousands) of arrests by the end of the month, military tribunals, a nation wide re-election (maybe, depends on how much of this election can be salvaged) and Trump sworn in as president legally before spring.
Trump isn't going to be attending the inauguration on the 20th, because there simply won't be one.
LISTEN. TO. HIM. CAREFULLY.
Listen to what he does say and what he doesn't say. Listen to it carefully. Read it carefully. His words have been chosen extremely precisely for the past two months for a very good reason.
A long long time ago I was a crypto linguist in the service and I keep thinking that military leadership just couldn't be ignoring all of this or ignoring the president.
But like I said it's been a long time ago so I keep wondering if it's all different now with culture changing.
What you said really made my day. Thank you for responding.
And?! I see your points but I’m not about to demonize my fellow patriot even the ones that took it too far.
You are full of shit.
She was murdered, filmed on camera from at least three different angles. This was not theater.
exactly. and sadly.
Watch the video again. Where is the blood? Why do the police ignore the Antifa people filming? How does Ashli not hit hear head as she falls?
Calling bullshit. A patriot was murdered by our government.
Agreed, the acting was terrible and the characters were too outlandish. People posing as Trump supporters were so nasty when you questioned them about info they were spewing. They couldn't hide they hated you and were satin's shills.
Ex Theater person here with experience in stage fighting, performance art, and martial arts.
It makes me sick to my stomach to write this. If I am wrong, I apologize to the spirit of Ashli and to her loved ones. But I have to share what I know about how these things are staged.
First off, there's no handgun caliber in the world that will push someone back. That's simply Hollywood gunfighting. Trust me, I spent six years in the military from 2002-2008, I've seen dozens of people get shot with much larger bullets than a handgun; they don't push at all. I've watched people with my own eyes being shot by 30mm cannon rounds from an Apache helicopter. The result was gruesome and horrific, but even that didn't push the body back, it just took chunks off.
Yes, almost everyone there is Antifa. This is true and the capital "siege" was a staged event to provoke hatred and outrage at Trump supporters and provide a flash point for de-platforming Trump supporters from all communication information dissemination networks. They CANNOT have us talking right now.
Her fall is not controlled. She was shot in the neck and she stiffened. Look at her left arm when the lands on the ground. Notice the unnatural position. That's something that happens to people who have been shot, their bodies tend to stiffen as a reaction, making arms and legs hang and or stand up in an unnatural position. The left arm position is key. You can't fake that, and it always bothered me when I saw people shot in real life that fell over like that with their arm pointed up in the air. Like, "Why doesn't it fall flat on the ground?" It's something to do with how muscles contract and relax when the body experiences trauma.
Simple. The round missed the arteries and veins. It's not like our entire necks are veins and arteries. There's lots of muscle, bone and spine in there too. Not every neck shot is a jugular shot.
I am a weapons expert. Not only have I fired hundreds of thousands of rounds from dozens of different weapons, but I've seen hundreds of thousands more and I've watched quite a few people being shot both friendly and enemy. Everything about that gunshot is real, from the recoil to the positioning to the aim. In fact, the person firing the round needs a lot more practice because they're a terrible shot. At that range they should have hit center mass easily, but when he pulls the trigger instead of squeezing it, probably because it was a panic shot, he pulls the muzzle up too high before the trigger breaks, turning an easy center mass shot into a wildly high neck shot.
The clearest video of this shooting was taken by John Earle Sullivan, a BLM/Antifa extremist identified by Andy Ngo. How convenient for him to be at the scene. https://thedonald.win/p/11RhKLT5rW/oh-nothing-this-is-just-the-guy-/c/
Many other concerns- Ashli did not immediately fall back from the gunshot, she slowly fell with her head tucked to her chest, like she was controlling her fall. Why didn't the shooter stay at the scene? When a gunshot goes off, people usually scatter and hide but this group just stood there yelling, waving their hands, and taking pictures. There were police standing right behind Ashli, why didn't they pull her away from the window? It was also convenient that the police standing right behind Ashli could immediately take control of the situation, and wave people away. Why didn't anyone quickly check Ashli's wound? No one treated her in this video.
And of course, we should also consider Ashli's intelligence background.