What's unfortunate is ALL social media sites will become echo chambers due to censorship. People will form sites where they only communicate amongst people they agree with. The political bifurcation will accelerate.
Any internet site that allows free and uncensored speech eventually becomes a conservative bastion. It’s almost like liberal ideas cannot prevail without censorship and totalitarianism.
Maybe not, but I don't see it playing out that way. Yes, alt-media will be true free speech, but the lefties will stay on Facebook, Twitter, etc., and the right-wingers will flock to the free speech sites. It will be "open" discussion among people who don't differ significantly politically.
Having monitored the Fediverse for 5 years, there was some of that at the beginning with respect to nodes refusing to federate with others, but it's becoming more diversified in thought as more independent instances pop up. You may be surprised what you find.
Twits has always been a cesspool, happy to say that I have never had an account. Always wandered why Trump and others didn't try to migrate away while they had the time.
Some of us have YT channels that we use twitter for. Completely apolitical so I never had an issue for the channel. And like their policies or not, it's a way to get exposure. Hoping Gab is able to spin up advertising support for content creators.
When they decided money was speech, they decided our voices weren't. Even with all of the obvious connections between the tech oligarchs and our own government, people will continue to say that their right to censor us is greater than our collective right to be heard.
Imagine if telephone companies were still allowed to do this! They were once and it was stopped...
I literally JUST got done schooling a LOLbertarian on cuckbook because he said exactly this. After a long chain of owning him, he hits me with the ad hominims and "well those are YOUR facts" These people are fucking lost...
Until the Biden administration passes legislation which will make certain hate speech and "violent/harassing" speech illegal, which will then force the private company to do whatever the government wants.
But, if the left hasn't discovered irony yet, it won't figure it out then either.
I agree that they can set their terms of service wherever they want. And people can go on other platforms if they don't like twitter. But denying access to elected servants of the people is a fucking stupid rule to enforce.
Twitter just fucked up. Network effect and first mover advantage doesn't necessarily last forever. See myspace or AOL. Twitter will lose half it's market cap over this, at least.
I have one friend who's name is Bernie, and I call him Bertie because he hates bernie and is ashamed of having the same name as him.
Must be how people named Adolf felt about that OTHER socialist that ruined that name for them.
Imagine your phone company telling you who you can call and what you can talk about, or your email provider telling you the same. Imagine your local newspaper telling you what you can put in your advertising for your small business. They don't because they have Sec230 protection against anything you might say. Twitter and others have this same protection but tell you exactly what you can say.
It IS a private company.
As capitalists we can't forget that.
Something else we can't forget is that if they say they are an open platform for people to share their ideas then they are exempt from being sued for the messages of their users.
Unless they decide what messages are allowed on their platform, then they CAN be sued.
So I suggest if YOU or anyone you know has been hurt by Antifa or BLM in any way, sue them.
Sue them for allowing these terrorists to be on there and for agreeing with their messages of 'No justice, no peace.'
The internet was initially constructed as a way for distant and remotely located early warning missile defense RaDAR sites to communicate more efficiently than by telephone. Until the internet was created the operators at the RaDAR sites were calling each other up on the phone and saying to the next guy "hey i got a blip on my screen heading your way" and then the next guy would call the next next guy & tell him "that other guy says I'm getting a blip soon, you're next" and so on, down the chain, it was a very slow communications process & the creation of an electronic network to send the blips directly downstream & out every other RaDAR operator & to headquarters almost instantaneously was a massive improvement in late 1960s defense technology.
The point of all this is that Twitter is as much a private company as an airline that doesn't contribute a penny to building airports or providing air traffic control. When Obama made his "you didn't build that" speech, he was talking about companies like Twitter as well as United Airlines. Uber makes money on both the free roads and the free communications network. Uber is one of that nation's worst polluters also, but they escape responsibility for that too, while no doubt saying some gretchen thunderburp bullshit out to of their other face.
We need to all agree when your private company relies on speech and you can silence any speech. you can't do "anything you want" anymore.
Their sites will become echo chambers and nothing more.
What's unfortunate is ALL social media sites will become echo chambers due to censorship. People will form sites where they only communicate amongst people they agree with. The political bifurcation will accelerate.
Any internet site that allows free and uncensored speech eventually becomes a conservative bastion. It’s almost like liberal ideas cannot prevail without censorship and totalitarianism.
Not "almost"
Not necessarily. Decentralizing is critical to achieving more open discussion. https://infogalactic.com/info/Fediverse
Maybe not, but I don't see it playing out that way. Yes, alt-media will be true free speech, but the lefties will stay on Facebook, Twitter, etc., and the right-wingers will flock to the free speech sites. It will be "open" discussion among people who don't differ significantly politically.
Having monitored the Fediverse for 5 years, there was some of that at the beginning with respect to nodes refusing to federate with others, but it's becoming more diversified in thought as more independent instances pop up. You may be surprised what you find.
Good
Twitter is now r/politics
Twits has always been a cesspool, happy to say that I have never had an account. Always wandered why Trump and others didn't try to migrate away while they had the time.
Some of us have YT channels that we use twitter for. Completely apolitical so I never had an issue for the channel. And like their policies or not, it's a way to get exposure. Hoping Gab is able to spin up advertising support for content creators.
^^^^ Bye commie
Who let this Commie (commieratsoup) onto td.win?
Ain't shit to be afraid of. I'll just take your hot pockets and tell mommy to come scoop you up in that hoopty shit brown station wagon.
When they decided money was speech, they decided our voices weren't. Even with all of the obvious connections between the tech oligarchs and our own government, people will continue to say that their right to censor us is greater than our collective right to be heard.
Imagine if telephone companies were still allowed to do this! They were once and it was stopped...
interdasting fren, never thought about the telecompanies. We might be witnessing multiple cycles meeting at once
sure, now you've chosen to selectively enforce via an editorial board.
You're a publisher now
Leftards: Silence is violence!
Also leftards: Deplatform everyone!
Soon, leftards: Why isn’t anyone talking about XYZ?!??
What happened to bake the cake?
Do they still say that?
I think it's paid shills, but yes.
I literally JUST got done schooling a LOLbertarian on cuckbook because he said exactly this. After a long chain of owning him, he hits me with the ad hominims and "well those are YOUR facts" These people are fucking lost...
They have no idea what libertarian even means.
And the real ones have to put up with being lumped in with basically liberals who are stupid as hell.
modern libertarians are just republicans who are too cowardly to admit it to their democrat friends. They make us all weak.
I have democrat friends?
Since when?
I saw somebody say "Twitter is a private business and Trump was a business liability". My God these people are retarded.
radio stations are private companies - they can't say and do whatever they want
Now bake the cake, bigot. /s
What's in my pants is private and can do whatever....
My body, my choice.....
Epiphany! This stupid narrative shit is so damn easy.
TIL -- Communism is for fucking idiots.
Until the Biden administration passes legislation which will make certain hate speech and "violent/harassing" speech illegal, which will then force the private company to do whatever the government wants.
But, if the left hasn't discovered irony yet, it won't figure it out then either.
"I can legally suppress free speech as a corporation" is just as, if not more, offensive than any 1A argument (that no one is really trying to make).
They are an arm of the CCP!
Publicly-traded
P.S. SELL TWTR
It’s not a private company. It’s a publicly traded company.
unless a public body owns the majority of shares, it's privately owned.
If it was privately owned they wouldn’t have to publicly show their books.
It's a publicy traded company, but the shares are owned by private individuals or other companies/hedge funds.
Being publicly traded does not mean it is a public company (which generally means it is owned by the taxpayer).
Only in the strictest sense like a utility company.
Strictly private companies don’t have to disclose their books to the public.
Perhaps this is a US/UK terminology misunderstand :)
Yeah, it can ban random users all it wants. It can’t ban world leaders. That is an act of treason against the government.
Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean it's a good idea to do it.
It can’t it’s a platform.
Monopoly. Bust it up.
I agree that they can set their terms of service wherever they want. And people can go on other platforms if they don't like twitter. But denying access to elected servants of the people is a fucking stupid rule to enforce.
Twitter just fucked up. Network effect and first mover advantage doesn't necessarily last forever. See myspace or AOL. Twitter will lose half it's market cap over this, at least.
Eyes Wide Shut.
Kind of like a publisher? Choosing what to print or not to print?
Bernie bro's who stayed with the Democrats after he got snubbed are the dumbest.
I have one friend who's name is Bernie, and I call him Bertie because he hates bernie and is ashamed of having the same name as him. Must be how people named Adolf felt about that OTHER socialist that ruined that name for them.
It's stock can now go plummet.
Imagine your phone company telling you who you can call and what you can talk about, or your email provider telling you the same. Imagine your local newspaper telling you what you can put in your advertising for your small business. They don't because they have Sec230 protection against anything you might say. Twitter and others have this same protection but tell you exactly what you can say.
I guess no more bakeries need to worry about making cakes for gay weddings!
It IS a private company. As capitalists we can't forget that. Something else we can't forget is that if they say they are an open platform for people to share their ideas then they are exempt from being sued for the messages of their users. Unless they decide what messages are allowed on their platform, then they CAN be sued.
So I suggest if YOU or anyone you know has been hurt by Antifa or BLM in any way, sue them. Sue them for allowing these terrorists to be on there and for agreeing with their messages of 'No justice, no peace.'
americans do not give up their right to speak freely just because they visit a site that is run by cucktopians! maybe the solution is to ban twitter!
Can private citizens burn it down? Seem the news only has issues with the capital building.
Bake that cake!
Corporations shouldnt be treated like they have rights. Big Media and Big Tech need to be broken up.
The internet was initially constructed as a way for distant and remotely located early warning missile defense RaDAR sites to communicate more efficiently than by telephone. Until the internet was created the operators at the RaDAR sites were calling each other up on the phone and saying to the next guy "hey i got a blip on my screen heading your way" and then the next guy would call the next next guy & tell him "that other guy says I'm getting a blip soon, you're next" and so on, down the chain, it was a very slow communications process & the creation of an electronic network to send the blips directly downstream & out every other RaDAR operator & to headquarters almost instantaneously was a massive improvement in late 1960s defense technology.
The point of all this is that Twitter is as much a private company as an airline that doesn't contribute a penny to building airports or providing air traffic control. When Obama made his "you didn't build that" speech, he was talking about companies like Twitter as well as United Airlines. Uber makes money on both the free roads and the free communications network. Uber is one of that nation's worst polluters also, but they escape responsibility for that too, while no doubt saying some gretchen thunderburp bullshit out to of their other face.
Just like that the commies went from communist to anarchic capitalists.
So is Parler, so Apple and Google better back the fuck up