Edit- thanks for offers to help. I do have one small project that is a step in the right direction and I might have it up ready to go (at least a start) in the next week or two. I will post again and link to this post when I do, and PM people below. Is there some way to get connected now that our communities have been nuked so people can share skills ideas and projects and collaborate?
Edit- thanks for offers to help. I do have one small project that is a step in the right direction and I might have it up ready to go (at least a start) in the next week or two. I will post again and link to this post when I do, and PM people below. Is there some way to get connected now that our communities have been nuked so people can share skills ideas and projects and collaborate?
We need
Those are what I see is needing in the next 6 months.
Far as I see it, we have 2 weeks to get organized and 6 months after that to make it happen.
We need a cloud storage company that offers services similar to AWS so that providers can spin out more capacity and don’t get overloaded when they get popular as well.
The stop the steal and walkaway networks are useful for their ability to put feet on the ground around the country when needed. Those networks were targeted to pull support out from under them this week. Rapidly providing replacement services to stabilize those networks provides a quick foundation useful for the next four years.
We literally need to build an alternative economy to escape the far-left's censorship and tyranny and we'd have to build it all in solid red states.
A difficult endeavor, but doable.
We need to call it Galt's Gulch.
I've been thinking a lot about alternative content sharing platforms and the problems they face for the past few years and also wrote my CS diploma thesis somewhat related to this (not saying college matters, I regret wasting my time there). One of the biggest issues I see is the network effect: established mainstream platforms have a huge advantage because of the amount of content that their large amount of users produce (this includes comments). The vast amount of content further incentivises people to use an established platform, rather than joining a new one.
What I think we really need is a "meta" video sharing platform. Take video sharing platforms for example: this meta platform would fetch content from YouTube, BitChute, Odysee, Rumble and store the metadata on its servers. It would implement its own search and recommendation (discovery) engine. This solves the challenge every new alternative platform faces: lack of (diverse) content.
It would also allow registered users to add multiple existing video sharing platforms via OAuth (crucially YouTube) and when they would upload a video it would post it to all the different platforms the user has added to their account. On this "meta" platform same video on multiple platforms would be seen as one video, with comments/likes from multiple platforms merged together. This means the content (including comments) posted on this meta platform would also be seen directly on YouTube by people who never heard of this platform.
I would focus on the following meta platforms the most:
Platforms of this type would need a lot of compute (scraping all content from other platforms, indexing, recommendations). Storage requirements could be reduced by only storing the metadata and textual data, while embedding the videos directly from YouTube.
I think platforms of this type would face a lot of legal challenges, since the most effective way to build it would be to scrape the publicly available data from YouTube /Twitter/FB (since fetching the content via an API can be easily disabled by BIG tech). Most of the legal challenges are the result of years of lobbying by BIG tech - they are only legal, not moral challenges, since the content on those platforms is in principle made and owned by its users, not the platform itself. Making the project open source and allowing anyone to host an instance is one way I see to make it more resilient and hard to shut down, even in the face of legal pressures.
I'd be happy to answer any questions someone might have and brainstorm the most ideal implementation further.
I don't really see a way for a platform like this to make much profit (except in the very long run if it gets really popular). One possible way to make money would be with ads but it would have to be Blockchain based since it's probably not legal under the current law (which is also the reason I suspect no one has built something like this yet AFAIK).
But I think a better approach that basing it on ads would be similar to what some other open source projects take (e.g. Signal, mostly donations). The donations would primarily fund development team, while the people hosting the instances (taking the biggest risk by probably breaking the law) could also collect donations via Bitcoin. By having a distributed design it should be relatively easy to set up your own server. Trusted servers would also exchange data P2P, and this would drastically reduce the compute power required to run an instance, since each e.g. YouTube video metadata/comments would only need to be scraped by few/one instance and sent to the rest directly. Also when setting up new instance it would copy all the data directly from another trusted instance greatly reducing setup time.
A lot of people are really angry with big tech censorship and if this is the way to inflict maximum damage to them, it will be easier to motivate volunteers to efficiently run a network like this - also easier to collect donations / grow user base. I think the timing and the current situation is the biggest advantage a platform like this would have.
I've worked on a project (similar to Gab's Dissenter) with the aim to bring a comment section to every webpage, so I'm familiar with the challenges new social platforms face. That's also the reason I've spent some time thinking about this idea, but I did not start working on it.
Would you like to talk a bit more in detail, but in private?
Yes a YouTube alternative is a great point.
Bitchute?
LBRY?
Would you like to talk a bit more in detail in private?
Don't know. I'm former military, CFA, have seen and evaluated hundreds of VC / PE deals over the years. Here to help however possible.
Also here to help.
I can help execute on all aspects of building or growing.
Absolutely, the financial power of all Trump supporters is probably a quarter of the economy.
I think Signal and Telegram are probably the safest communications apps with what sounds like are still unbroken encryption.
However, an encrypted platform is only as good as the users' opsec, so it really does come down to risk tolerance in terms of how far you're willing to go without risking (if not essentially guaranteeing) you'll eventually be doxxed.
Getting doxxed in your public life & career are also way different than getting doxxed by your ISP, Credit Card provider / bank... And eventually where the rubber meets the road this gets tricky, since the money has to come from somewhere, and somebody's name has to be on the entities.
In any case, I've thought a lot about this stuff since Snowden & before, and am also happy to help however possible. Feel free to DM.
Thanks & best of luck!!!! Godspeed Patriot 🇺🇲🦅👌
it all starts from having decenterlized network infrastructure capable of facilitating privacy and censorship ressistance. Lokinet.org + getsession.org achive all of that and much much more not Signal or Telegram they both have centerlized servers and keep track of you via phone #/email address. Session Messenger sends messages not metadeta!
We need a patriot job posting on the side bar
1000%
a set of principles
Sign up this IT pede!
I have the same background, let me know if you want to chat.
Been working on something myself too. Agreed we need to collaborate. Going to DM you
We also need to take back culture. In other words, we need our OWN ENTERTAINMENT industry. Liberals dominate Music, Movies, Books, and Video Games. They shove their woke politics into entertainment mediums in order to brain wash people.
WE NEED OUR OWN ENTERTAINMENT industry to redpill people and show them the truth.
GAB has already done what you are speaking.
I don't get why they don't have more love. I'm thinking of making a proton and creating a pro account just to get money to them for all they've done. Donating to the free flow of information does far, far more for our cause than donating to the GOP ever did. These are essentially modern day town criers.
Proton mail is a good service. You have to pay for the service.
We have a tremendous amount of power with the ability to drop any company immediately for any services / products / stocks when they do anti American things like preventing free speech. The power is in our hands. Not theirs. The sooner we all realize this the better.
Yes and a lot of Americans who would happily drop a toxic environment where they worked for one in which valued them and their country.
I’m..shouldn’t you be telling us, based on that CV?
I'm talking about how do we get connected and do this in a coordinated manner. I expose.my political beliefs it could tank my career, and like minded individuals are extremely hard to pinpoint.
Great on you for willing to work on this. Hopefully you get some DMs. I'm not in information technology, but there are a ton of folks that are. Maybe it'd be worth reaching out to someone extremely successful that have stood up for Trump.
https://stanford.academia.edu/JHuttonPulitzer
There's also Shiva who won two election lawsuits.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Ayyadurai
Maybe we can also work with folks who want a free and open internet and have worked against 'Walled Gardens'.
Shit, I had to lie about where I was on the 6th because my employer probably would have fired me due to COVID travel restrictions. I try to be apolitical at work but I am pretty sure I have let the cat out of the bag here and there and no doubt it may hinder me in the future, which is probably why I am not going to stick around where I am for long. P.S. I am a systems administrator with a shit ton of experience in virtualization, windows, linux, and alot enterprise services like exchange and SharePoint, dns and networking, pretty much an end to end engineer. AMA.
Include me on whatever you've going please! I'm a photographer so I can help with a lot of visual stuff
Long time IT infrastructure guy. All the mentions below are great. I want to highlight that the best apps in the world are DOA without bandwidth. Makes more sense now that why Left was crazy about Net Neutrality. Dark fiber from conservative owned Data Center to an Internet PoP. Once it hits the Internet backbone it’s very difficult to suppress. In the long run, we can’t trust any carriers or data center providers. They or government subpoena can shut us down in a heartbeat. Lot tougher to do if you own the infrastructure to the Internet. I was thinking about this business model this morning. I have to think many conservative companies would lease space. Even as a backup to AWS et al.
IPFS + Raspberry PI + Discovery tools
Interesting... I don’t know enough about IPFS but distributing the content to many is def better than centralized data center
Gotta get disconnected if a lot of ways... without becoming uninformed.
Let me tell you a story about when thedonald.win was founded. Many of you remember it well. These guys were not only mocked by reddit and corporate media but by a large seeming majority of /r/the_donald well intentioned pedes as well. Every insult and allegation. They are grifters, they are quitters, this looks bad for us, this is pathetic, it wont pick up momentum, noone will use it, its a honey pot et cetera et cetera.
I guess the point is they took all that shit and decided to do it anyway and now here we are stronger than we have ever been. I think one of the things that fucks alternate tech over alot is access to funding/payment processing. Is there a based version of paypal/square out there? Is that even feasable to start at the grassroots level? Does the swamp have a strangle hold on it? I dont know
Crypto. Banks will always be the weak link.
Social media alternatives exist. Next we need:
I made a post about creating a maga community crowdsourced bank. We could raise money quickly for business loan and so on. If 10k of us put ten dollars to a business startup, it's low risk and helps us help each other.
It's common in some communities, example, a group of latino will pool money for one guy to get a nice truck, then the next one, and so on. We have to do more than shit post and such. We need to be finding patriots for 22 elections and stuff too.
Media censorship needs to be tackled first and foremost.
Followed by e-commerce channel for 3rd party and dropship with a MADE IN USA filter.
Is your name Tony? :) Now this is a good question. This is the way the plan should start. I think though this has been worked out to the most basic start. We will probably see how very soon (next few days).
No it's not Tony, but theres a really small footprint of ex military VCs so I probably know him haha
Good to know! LOL
Would love to connect and contribute in any way I can
Willing to provide capital for good ideas!
it all starts from having decenterlized network infrastructure capable of facilitating privacy and censorship ressistance. Lokinet.org + getsession.org achive all of that and much much more.
Building a new platform from scratch is hard. Technically, and PR-wise.
The biggest thing lacking from all of the existing alt-tech is the user-experience:
The platforms are springing up, but the user interfaces are horrible and keeping people away
DevOps engineer, programmer and technologist my whole life. I would be willing to do anything I can to help an effort like this.
Start with parler and gab, install matrix.org/element.io and mastadon just to get an understanding of how they work, and build your own communities from there. Federation we can deal with down the road.
I design really big things that millions of people use every day, and I sent a major one to mods already, and I may set up some .win domains with new products on them to test and they can decide whether to extend the .win user oauth to them.
Whatever we talk about in public here, the left will infiltrate. Talking is not doing, and worse, it's blowing your load.
Build, get users, federate.
We need our own authoritative DNS and recursive DNS servers, preferably behind different VPN's with a static ip.
I'd like to collaborate as well.
Diversify any monopolies. We need to decrease our reliance on ANYTHING. ISP, servers, platforms, banking systems, crowd sourcing platforms, etc., and they need to be proudly MAGA so we know we aren't getting fired for attending a political rally.
Aren't you a ? "Glad to see the Walmart hate. I work there and it's a shitty company"
Big "if," but if Trump seizes assets under his EO, he will have entire infrastructures already intact to launch his conservative platforms.
Good info/discussions (save).
Was a CTO for quite a few years... have thought about this quite a bit... a lot of the things I would not post in public but there are ways that others have used under pinko commie rule that could be done even better...
PM if you wanna yak about them.
Keep me posted
contact u/Enlivenus
I'm in!
Patriot money...
I'd say the first things we need are our own host, and our own payment processing platform. That will keep us from being deplatformed and financially choked.
I've can croud source the equipment. Tech is 100% personel heavy as a venture. If we can raise the talent here, it can be done.
I just made a comment about how we should do a maga crowdsourced loan. We directly help our community , and create businesses and jobs. Idk the particulars, but if I could give 20 bucks and 5k others did, that's a good seed or growth loan. We can't rely on just one man, it's up to all of us.
I hope we are more concerned about returns other profits. Breaking the power of the socialiss, seems like it's more important than a high apr.
Now we have an undiscovered country. Create our own. All this new space for enterprise, where there were none. Great idea. Now it is time to make new zillionaires.
Allow me to go contrarian - no offense intended: If you didn't have the forethought to do this when it should have been done - a year ago - if not two - you will always get outplayed by Silicon Valley.
The time is now to start our own services and ways to communicate and share information. We can't let the media regain any power over the narrative beyond what they have now.