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How do you know it's absolutely not the case? I believe it's not the case, but it seems like the ball is still in play right now. If he agreed to "take one for the team" in some kind of crazy headfake that would be awesome. (Seems extremely unlikely compared to the more obvious conclusion that he's a backstabbing bitch.)
Pence
plural noun:
Plural of Penny
verb:
To fail to uphold one's sworn oath at a critical moment such that the betrayal causes irreparable harm to one's own cause and so as to render all previous honorable actions by the individual moot, meaningless and quickly forgotten, replaced by the constant memory of the betrayal and the total association of the betrayer with the act through the remainder of human history. (see also 𝘉𝘦𝘯𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘤𝘵 𝘈𝘳𝘯𝘰𝘭d)
past tense:
Penced
synonyms: Betray, Commit Treason, Sabotage, Double Cross, Shameful Cowardice
antonyms: Honor, Dutifully Discharge, Have Courage
Example: Pilot suspected Judas would pence for as little as 30 pieces of silver.
This is why we can't get fence sitters on our side.
Intelligent people see you moving the goal posts every time and nothing ever comes of it. All these theories and formulas and secret arrest and white hats. I've given super patriot friends and coworkers that are like III% kind of guys this site and they told me that there's a bunch of delusional schizos here.
We have to deal in reality before we can find a path to victory.
Pence will come out of this coup smelling like a rose and a hero - to the Left. They will pass over him when the purge comes as he has been compliant and useful. Lisa Murkowski was bellowing yesterday how Trump has “turned” on his “loyal Vice President” and was treating him horribly. That’s all we need to know:
He has no interest in winning an election again. And the establishment left and GOP loves him right now - they view him as the savior of the electoral college vote who allowed Biden to be confirmed. They don’t care that he worked for Trump. He is one of the few who has escaped unscathed because he toed the line when it counted and turned on his boss. He and Karen will be welcome at the DC cocktail parties, Martha’s Vineyard weddings and insider soirées for many years to come. Expect to see a huge bidding war for his upcoming tell-all biography about his time working next to “the world’s most dangerous man”, while Trump will have to self publish and then be denied a selling platform anywhere in this country.
Mike Pence will retire early and enjoy the millions of dollars he received from Soros and China. He doesn't care about his reputation. He only cares about $$$$. Fuck him.
I don't look at him as anything special. Just a coward in a long line of cowards working in a system that weeds out people who stand up for freedom early on. The fact that they are that way, is just more proof that we are not in control, the deep state is.
A good leader is not going to fix the problem. We don't need a good leader, we already had one. What we need is a good strategy. IMHO, that strategy is secession.
Pence could have done what he did to get the people in d.c. riled up because they needed the "breaking into the capitol" excuse to infiltrate the capital offices while the kiddie fuckers were busy selling us out certifying the election! Prob not but with this 4 year Show u never know!
You shouldn't hate him. I really feel he felt he couldn't do nothing. I disagree with him but it never should of had to go to him. Where was the courts? Where was the other Rinos to fight? Everyone put it on Pence to do something. Also not sure if he wanted the Clinton Special.
I understand what you are saying but let me explain why I personally am so upset with Pence. For me I got interested in politics because of law (parents wanted me to be a lawyer, long story.) Anyway, I have a better understanding of law than the "average" person.
I cannot and have not been able to understand what the recourse is for the perceived election fraud. There are millions of people who believe the election was stolen AND NOT BECAUSE TRUMP SAID SO but because we WATCHED things which we can't explain. I don't need to get into all the details and Rudy's hearings because you know what I'm talking about but the point is THE EVIDENCE EXISTS.
Is the evidence enough to overturn the election? Was it definitely stolen? I don't know. I'm not making any claims like that right now. I am just asking--what is the procedure for example when poll watchers are prevented from watching polls for several days after an election and ballots continue to be counted? Why are mail-in ballots considered constitutional? Why doesn't Texas have standing?
Mike Pence has always been more level-headed than Trump and a more soothing voice to listen to. He did not come out and explain ANYTHING. He did not explain why the mail in ballots were legal. He did not explain why the cases kept getting thrown out. He did not explain WHAT we could do IF there MIGHT BE fraud.
He KNEW Trump and all his supporters expected him to do something regarding the electoral votes on the 6th. ALL he had to do was come out and say something like, "I know many of your are upset and there were some unexplained events on election night. I will do everything in my constitutional power to investigate the claims of fraud and protect the vote. I am encouraging the lower courts to look into the claims of concerned citizens and asking people to come forward and be heard so that we can ensure a fair process." He could even imply that he can't do anything "but next time it will be fair" and I'd be disappointed, but at least I understand that law is very, very slow.
HE HAS NOT DONE SHIT! He literally waited until the final hour to betray us. There isn't even the implication that anything could be done in the future or that we even HAVE fair elections anymore! As far as I'm concerned, he's the one who incited violence and his name was on the bullet that killed Ashli. A complete lack of leadership from him.
How can he show his face in public? He will go down as the worst traitor in WORLD history. He's on the same level as Judas and Brutus. He is NO Christian. If he was, he would not certify a lie!
At first, I was willing to give him the benefit of doubt. Like, maybe he honestly believed that he would be able to "get to the bottom" of the corruption and mismanagement by opening the floor for debate.
BUT!
The moment it became apparent that it would be used for nothing more than everyone piling on hate and lies about GEOTUS and he just sat there and let them do it...
That's when I said, FUCK HIM!
At the very least he should have stepped in and demanded the time be spent arguing the merits for and against election fraud.
Wouldn't surprise me that Trump was setup to pick Pence by Mitch. Mitch had some leverage over Trump considering Mitch had an alliance of senators ready to oppose or support any future initiative from Trump.
Guilliani would have been a great AG! Instead, we got Dumb and Dumber (Sessions and Barr) for AG. Both totally useless with nothing to show for in the last 4 years!
For weeks some here tried to explain that Pence SIMPLY DOES NOT HAVE the legal authority to reject electors. But such posts were consistently downvoted and the posters branded doomers.
You never change reality if you insist on pretending things work the way you want them to instead of how they actually work.
Unless he magically turns out to still be one of us and setting them up. Which is absolutely not the case, but I like to listen to the larpers.
How do you know it's absolutely not the case? I believe it's not the case, but it seems like the ball is still in play right now. If he agreed to "take one for the team" in some kind of crazy headfake that would be awesome. (Seems extremely unlikely compared to the more obvious conclusion that he's a backstabbing bitch.)
He’d have to be two timing the swamp... which we know none of them do.
It’s technically still there, but... in the words of a notable pedophile, “C’mon, man!”
Pence plural noun: Plural of Penny verb: To fail to uphold one's sworn oath at a critical moment such that the betrayal causes irreparable harm to one's own cause and so as to render all previous honorable actions by the individual moot, meaningless and quickly forgotten, replaced by the constant memory of the betrayal and the total association of the betrayer with the act through the remainder of human history. (see also 𝘉𝘦𝘯𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘤𝘵 𝘈𝘳𝘯𝘰𝘭d) past tense: Penced synonyms: Betray, Commit Treason, Sabotage, Double Cross, Shameful Cowardice antonyms: Honor, Dutifully Discharge, Have Courage Example: Pilot suspected Judas would pence for as little as 30 pieces of silver.
My short list of people who can clear Pence’s name; Donald Trump or Melania (In Trumps absence). No other “evidence” will change my mind.
Stop listening to the crazies.
This is why we can't get fence sitters on our side.
Intelligent people see you moving the goal posts every time and nothing ever comes of it. All these theories and formulas and secret arrest and white hats. I've given super patriot friends and coworkers that are like III% kind of guys this site and they told me that there's a bunch of delusional schizos here.
We have to deal in reality before we can find a path to victory.
To be fair, schizos can be right some of the time, if only accidentally. Reality is pretty crazy.
Sessions could come flying in on a dragon to stop the Biden inauguration too.
We all saw him rubbing elbows with Pelosi.
Sounds Q-y
Every great story has a Judas
And a 3rd act come back.
Still waiting for Trump to emerge with the elixir! As much as I am skeptical Q exists, JAN6 was Biblical. Those who were there know.
At least Judas had remorse - presumably that's why he killed himself. No, I would say Pence has more in common with Jim Jones or pedo priests.
Pence will come out of this coup smelling like a rose and a hero - to the Left. They will pass over him when the purge comes as he has been compliant and useful. Lisa Murkowski was bellowing yesterday how Trump has “turned” on his “loyal Vice President” and was treating him horribly. That’s all we need to know:
This is ridiculous. They will hate Pence. They hate anybody in the Trump admin and Pence was there since the beginning.
There will be no mercy. Pence is maybe the most hated man in the nation at this point. He’ll never win an election again.
Ironic since Pence's betrayal will have done more to advance the agenda of the abortionists than RBG could ever have imagined.
He has no interest in winning an election again. And the establishment left and GOP loves him right now - they view him as the savior of the electoral college vote who allowed Biden to be confirmed. They don’t care that he worked for Trump. He is one of the few who has escaped unscathed because he toed the line when it counted and turned on his boss. He and Karen will be welcome at the DC cocktail parties, Martha’s Vineyard weddings and insider soirées for many years to come. Expect to see a huge bidding war for his upcoming tell-all biography about his time working next to “the world’s most dangerous man”, while Trump will have to self publish and then be denied a selling platform anywhere in this country.
Good god... that looks so real. Creepy.
Mike Pence will retire early and enjoy the millions of dollars he received from Soros and China. He doesn't care about his reputation. He only cares about $$$$. Fuck him.
I don't look at him as anything special. Just a coward in a long line of cowards working in a system that weeds out people who stand up for freedom early on. The fact that they are that way, is just more proof that we are not in control, the deep state is.
A good leader is not going to fix the problem. We don't need a good leader, we already had one. What we need is a good strategy. IMHO, that strategy is secession.
So many people backstabbed us:
At this point, I don't trust anyone. Reagan was right: "Trust, BUT VERIFY!"
God will not treat him kindly.
He's a backstabber and a fool. A snake. Brutus. Can't wait for him to be replaced with Flynn or someone with morals.
I hate ALL PEDOs!
Pence chose to side with islam, communism and globalism.
If he ever did anything important in his life, anything right, it is all now meaningless.
At least Megyn Kelly got $60million for going silly, this Pence got nothing but some smiles and nods from other career politicians.
I need to scrape his dirty name off my official Trump 2020 pint glass
Judas
He doesn't care. He's about to make the sweet sweet talking and book tour millions.
He couldn't give a shit about us.
But who will buy his book?
Bezos will buy them all as fire starter for his 6th house. That’s the deal for the betrayal.
He looks more and more like a demon in each photo I see of him
Pence could have done what he did to get the people in d.c. riled up because they needed the "breaking into the capitol" excuse to infiltrate the capital offices while the kiddie fuckers were busy selling us out certifying the election! Prob not but with this 4 year Show u never know!
😱😭 So will I.
You shouldn't hate him. I really feel he felt he couldn't do nothing. I disagree with him but it never should of had to go to him. Where was the courts? Where was the other Rinos to fight? Everyone put it on Pence to do something. Also not sure if he wanted the Clinton Special.
I understand what you are saying but let me explain why I personally am so upset with Pence. For me I got interested in politics because of law (parents wanted me to be a lawyer, long story.) Anyway, I have a better understanding of law than the "average" person.
I cannot and have not been able to understand what the recourse is for the perceived election fraud. There are millions of people who believe the election was stolen AND NOT BECAUSE TRUMP SAID SO but because we WATCHED things which we can't explain. I don't need to get into all the details and Rudy's hearings because you know what I'm talking about but the point is THE EVIDENCE EXISTS.
Is the evidence enough to overturn the election? Was it definitely stolen? I don't know. I'm not making any claims like that right now. I am just asking--what is the procedure for example when poll watchers are prevented from watching polls for several days after an election and ballots continue to be counted? Why are mail-in ballots considered constitutional? Why doesn't Texas have standing?
Mike Pence has always been more level-headed than Trump and a more soothing voice to listen to. He did not come out and explain ANYTHING. He did not explain why the mail in ballots were legal. He did not explain why the cases kept getting thrown out. He did not explain WHAT we could do IF there MIGHT BE fraud.
He KNEW Trump and all his supporters expected him to do something regarding the electoral votes on the 6th. ALL he had to do was come out and say something like, "I know many of your are upset and there were some unexplained events on election night. I will do everything in my constitutional power to investigate the claims of fraud and protect the vote. I am encouraging the lower courts to look into the claims of concerned citizens and asking people to come forward and be heard so that we can ensure a fair process." He could even imply that he can't do anything "but next time it will be fair" and I'd be disappointed, but at least I understand that law is very, very slow.
HE HAS NOT DONE SHIT! He literally waited until the final hour to betray us. There isn't even the implication that anything could be done in the future or that we even HAVE fair elections anymore! As far as I'm concerned, he's the one who incited violence and his name was on the bullet that killed Ashli. A complete lack of leadership from him.
Neither god, nor the impending military tribunals i am expecting to occur post the 20th will treat this man kindly.
His legacy is sealed. Benedict Arnold was a traitor. Pence, hold my beer.
How can he show his face in public? He will go down as the worst traitor in WORLD history. He's on the same level as Judas and Brutus. He is NO Christian. If he was, he would not certify a lie!
What if a deal was done behind the scenes for him to become Harris's VP after they get rid of Joe Bidden?
False Christian Republicans are the worst kind of Traitors
Did god tell you to do that Mike? You made a pledge under god you POS
He left the Catholic Church. Many of the worst monsters in history turned their back on Christ's Church.
Pence won’t be able to run as a dog catcher.
Traitorous trash
I wonder what he expects to do with the rest of his life? Garden?
His political career is over.
He's going to sit on his lawn chair and watch the sprinkler.
You know what solidified it for me?
At first, I was willing to give him the benefit of doubt. Like, maybe he honestly believed that he would be able to "get to the bottom" of the corruption and mismanagement by opening the floor for debate.
BUT!
The moment it became apparent that it would be used for nothing more than everyone piling on hate and lies about GEOTUS and he just sat there and let them do it...
That's when I said, FUCK HIM!
At the very least he should have stepped in and demanded the time be spent arguing the merits for and against election fraud.
Should have picked General Flynn. Rudy Giuliani should’ve been the AG. The fact that he didn’t do this makes me wonder where his alliance truly lies.
Wouldn't surprise me that Trump was setup to pick Pence by Mitch. Mitch had some leverage over Trump considering Mitch had an alliance of senators ready to oppose or support any future initiative from Trump.
With Mitch's wife and family connections with the CCP, how the hell did he stay in as majority leader? Doesn't anyone do any due diligence?
Guilliani would have been a great AG! Instead, we got Dumb and Dumber (Sessions and Barr) for AG. Both totally useless with nothing to show for in the last 4 years!
For weeks some here tried to explain that Pence SIMPLY DOES NOT HAVE the legal authority to reject electors. But such posts were consistently downvoted and the posters branded doomers.
You never change reality if you insist on pretending things work the way you want them to instead of how they actually work.
I won’t