Strange socialist hate when you bring this up, you would think they would be proud of their socialist history.
Hitler was a socialist and marxist.
Socialism is good, right?
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Strange socialist hate when you bring this up, you would think they would be proud of their socialist history.
Hitler was a socialist and marxist.
Socialism is good, right?
Why are there two words for the same thing? How would Hitler and Lenin describe the difference?
Finally found someone on here that actually knows a little history.
Doesn't every true socialist movement have a goal of communism and dictatorship as the end goal?
There you go again, using words you can't define. 😆
You are both poorly read and arrogant.
You can read his letters to stalin but he was for sure into marx who was a racist piece of shit as well.
I see you've chosen to double down on the arrogance, a bold choice.
If you see these ideologies as your enemy you must seek to understand them. How did Hitler describe the difference between the two?
Fascism was invented by Giovanni Gentile, who was a student of Marx. Gentile believed that "a people" should rule themselves and take care of themselves rather than internationalism
Three questions my friend:
Could you define fascism?
Who told you to hate a thing that you can't describe?
Can you find the symbolism of the Fasces in US history?
Arrogance or just facts of history anybody has access to? Please enlighten us capitalist the differences between the two socialist ideals, feel free to share. But yes on the surface I do admit I find the cultist ideals as my enemy as it needs to erase everything including people.
No answer, typical.
They can't answer since they know in truth it's morally wrong, yet their anti social psycho tendencies make it feel so right.
I couldn't agree more. 🙂 Can you defiy the word psychosis?
Well thats isn't really 100% true good sir. Yes they had some things in commen but the Nazi party stands for Nationalist Socialist German Workers party. Its socialism with natiolistic elements. One difference was also that under the nazi party you could have some private ownership and under communism it total goverment controlled landgrab. Hitler even blamed the communist besides the jew for Germany's problems. Although lenin agreed that the ultimate conclusion to socialism is communism. I think Hitler kind disagree with that claim. But the parralels are there tho so I understand in it broader sense they are the same. But in reality there are many differences. With what I agree is that they are both left ideas.
What was the difference in philosophy?
This is why they've spent so much effort drilling into people's heads the idea that the Nazis were "far right"
It’s the nationalism the left views as far right. The left wants to promote international socialism.
Interesting... wonder what would happen if we pushed the same but in a different format, different words, etc.
Would they change I wonder under confusion of "having" to be different?
In what ways are the republicans further right that the Nazis?
Reps are capitalist that hate socialism vs NAZI's that are socialist.
You will never find a capitalist that embraces nazi ideals the two conflict.
Then why did the American NatSoc party love the ideas of the founding fathers?
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/americans-hold-nazi-rally-in-madison-square-garden
Democrats were very well known supporters of both NAZI's and Communists. The left wing newspapers persuaded young americans to board ships for Russia during its revolution and there was americans that even served under hitler.
JFK was a well known NAZI and hated communists and during the Nuremburg trials it came out that the NAZI's had copied the democrat parties use of racial segregation and eugenics such as the KKK's planned parenthood use of abortions.
Truman was even impressed so much by fascism that he sent an official delegation to Italy to study it better.
Those are far from the founding fathers and completely different from republican, true liberal, or conservative ideals of freedom and capitalism.
To restate:
Democrats support both Nazis and communists.
JFK, a democrat, was a nazi that hated communists.
That's nonsensical, I'm sure you can see that.
In what way are socialists right wing?
Then the answer should be simple, clear, and short. 🙂
It is. The Nazis were left wing socialists.
Just not quite as far left as the fucking commies in the USSR, who were the first people to call them "far right".
Then why did the American NatSoc party come from the right? Why did they enshrine the ideas of the founding fathers?
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/americans-hold-nazi-rally-in-madison-square-garden
Socialism is by definition not right wing, and not compatible with the ideas of the founding fathers.
Or, respectfully, perhaps what you know of them was told to you by the MSM and public schools. Try the link.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/americans-hold-nazi-rally-in-madison-square-garden
The only place NAZI's are "Right Wing" is in Europe where Capitalism never took hold, only socialism, Here in America NAZI's have always been left wing.
I'm not sure where the downvotes came from, because you're completely correct. In 1930's Europe, socialism was assumed. The only real question was whether it should have been wrapped up in nationalism or in globalism. Two heads of the same snake.
Funny how the "micro" differences between communism and nazi'ism are overlooked by everyone but a socialist.
Please explain the difference.
He's not correct.
Ge was also a vegetarian and a failed art student that blamed all the woes of society on one group of people. Not to mention that retarded mustache. Who does all that sound like?
The victors write the history books. Remember that when you’re reading about Hitler. What do you think the Democrats are going to write about Trump and our MAGA movement? What did they write about Joseph McCarthy? All I’m saying is don’t believe everything you read. Do your own research.
For sure, interesting how easy it truly is to "rewrite" history if you're in it for the long game. Something I think America, as a young country even today, has not learned.
It’s scary how fast everything is being removed or rewritten. You see it happening with your own eyes and the media says you’re crazy and they convince everyone else you’re crazy. Truth is treason. It’s like 1984.
Exactly, I think 1984 was the warning.
They only learn pseudo history.
Socialist, yes. Marxist, no.
Marxism, and most "Communist" ideologies are based on the theory that the State should be based advance the interests of a class, the workers. And that all organs of power in society should be subservient to the State. In practice, the large "communist" States put the power into the hands of the party, theoretically to help "the workers", but higher up in the party someone is, somehow they get the nicer stuff.
Nazism is based on the theory that the State should be based around the interests of a race. Much like communism, it is socialist, authoritarian and totalitarian in the sense that all the organs of power in society should be subservient to the State. The racial aspect gave them the framework to commit acts of genocide against other races.
In either case, you really don't want an all powerful state, because the politicians have absolute power to decide the "enemies of the state". And will utilize all the organs of power to crush anyone who tries to defy them.
I respect the thought and effort in your answer.
I feel that private arms ownership is a good measure of liberty, would you agree?
Please explain the correspondence between Hitler and Stalin about Marx then.
Hilter was playing "Nice doggie, lets split Poland. I don't want to deal with you plus France/Britain." with Stalin.
Stalin was playing "Nice doggie, lets split Poland. I don't want to fight you until we finish the Great Purge" with the Axis.
Neither liked each other. They both knew that they would fight as some point. It's just that Stalin wasn't expecting Operation Barbarossa until after Britain was quelled.
The problem is that you didn't already know. You advocate violence based on something you don't understand.
Do you see the issue with that?
Where did the violence come from?
I thought I'd saw something while I was lurking. My mistake.