I see a lot of anger over Trump's video message but the reason why Trump made that video is now clear to me.
According to Vanity Fair (total fake news but I believe them on this one), "According to one Republican briefed on internal conversations, Trump was swayed in part by Senator Lindsey Graham. The source said Graham called Trump yesterday and explained that there were enough Republican votes in the Senate to remove Trump from office unless he conceded the election and diffused tensions. “He told Trump that he had to say there would be a ‘peaceful transition.’ Those were the key words,” the Republican said. (In the video Trump said: “My focus now turns to ensuring a smooth, orderly, and seamless transition of power.”)"
My take: They set Trump up. Pence, McConnell, Graham, the entire RNC in coordination with the DNC. They pretended to be on his side, just enough, to get Trump to encourage the march on the Capitol. They had the police wave people in, make them think protesting inside was okay and wouldn't get them shot or arrested or reported to the FBI. Then they pretended it was a riot, Pence revealed his true colours, they sprung the trap on Trump and blackmailed him into making that video or else he'd be impeached by the Dems and removed by the RINOs (they made sure they had the votes secured ahead of time), censored him on social media to take away his direct line to the American people, deployed the National Guard without Trump's consent, sent the FBI after all the patriots, and now the Democrat half of this conspiracy is even trying to pressure the Republican half into committing a military coup (Pelosi's call to the Pentagon) and invoking the 25th Amendment (and make no mistake, the RINOs totally would if they weren't just a little scared of their voters and if it wasn't for the fact some half-RINOs like Ted Cruz are half-supporting-Trump because they want to become President one day and know they can't do it without MAGA).
I never bought into the "trust the plan" people. Yes, Trump had a plan, a good plan. He was planning on joining the march on the Capitol, he said he would in his speech. But even Julius Caesar got outwitted once. I think Trump's plan depended on Pence rejecting the electors, leading a literal march to put pressure on the RINOs and give Pence's action legitimacy (the support of the people), and invoking the Insurrection Act as a last resort, declassifying everything and using the military. But I think the deep state played him, I think he found that those he trusted to carry out his orders had simply betrayed him and would refuse, and all his allies were secretly preparing to remove him. Look at all the people resigning from the White House.
I think his very, very last contingency was to run again in 2024, try and add another 12 million to his coalition next time and overcome even the fraud. (The fraud was so obvious this time that polls show even 30% of Democrat voters think it was fraudulent, I think even the Dems know they can't go much further; to all those who say they'll never vote again, I get you, but THINK, if the Dems and RINOs weren't scared shitless of Trump running again they wouldn't be conspiring to impeach him.) And I think Trump is a pragmatist who values contingencies, knows he got outplayed this time (this does not make him stupid, even Napoleon, the smartest, most successful commander in all history, won 60 battles but lost seven), and didn't want to risk being impeached and removed because then he's not allowed to run again in 2024.
And for all those saying Trump should have fought harder... You have no idea what Trump knows. If he tells the military to do x and the RINOs, Dems and deep state convince the generals to ignore him, what's he going to do? If the Cabinet 25ths him (and they're all cowards who've been told they might be in legal jeopardy if they helped Trump "incite the riot" which is why they're quitting; look it up, even the fake news is reporting this is why they're quitting), what's he going to do? It's one man versus the entire system, and he's fighting harder than anyone has ever had before. I don't know what's going to happen on the 20th but all I know is I will not abandon Trump.
I see a lot of anger over Trump's video message but the reason why Trump made that video is now clear to me.
According to Vanity Fair (total fake news but I believe them on this one), "According to one Republican briefed on internal conversations, Trump was swayed in part by Senator Lindsey Graham. The source said Graham called Trump yesterday and explained that there were enough Republican votes in the Senate to remove Trump from office unless he conceded the election and diffused tensions. “He told Trump that he had to say there would be a ‘peaceful transition.’ Those were the key words,” the Republican said. (In the video Trump said: “My focus now turns to ensuring a smooth, orderly, and seamless transition of power.”)"
My take: They set Trump up. Pence, McConnell, Graham, the entire RNC in coordination with the DNC. They pretended to be on his side, just enough, to get Trump to encourage the march on the Capitol. They had the police wave people in, make them think protesting inside was okay and wouldn't get them shot or arrested or reported to the FBI. Then they pretended it was a riot, Pence revealed his true colours, they sprung the trap on Trump and blackmailed him into making that video or else he'd be impeached by the Dems and removed by the RINOs (they made sure they had the votes secured ahead of time), censored him on social media to take away his direct line to the American people, deployed the National Guard without Trump's consent, sent the FBI after all the patriots, and now the Democrat half of this conspiracy is even trying to pressure the Republican half into committing a military coup (Pelosi's call to the Pentagon) and invoking the 25th Amendment (and make no mistake, the RINOs totally would if they weren't just a little scared of their voters and if it wasn't for the fact some half-RINOs like Ted Cruz are half-supporting-Trump because they want to become President one day and know they can't do it without MAGA).
I never bought into the "trust the plan" people. Yes, Trump had a plan, a good plan. He was planning on joining the march on the Capitol, he said he would in his speech. But even Julius Caesar got outwitted once. I think Trump's plan depended on Pence rejecting the electors, leading a literal march to put pressure on the RINOs and give Pence's action legitimacy (the support of the people), and invoking the Insurrection Act as a last resort, declassifying everything and using the military. But I think the deep state played him, I think he found that those he trusted to carry out his orders had simply betrayed him and would refuse, and all his allies were secretly preparing to remove him. Look at all the people resigning from the White House.
I think his very, very last contingency was to run again in 2024, try and add another 12 million to his coalition next time and overcome even the fraud. (The fraud was so obvious this time that polls show even 30% of Democrat voters think it was fraudulent, I think even the Dems know they can't go much further; to all those who say they'll never vote again, I get you, but THINK, if the Dems and RINOs weren't scared shitless of Trump running again they wouldn't be conspiring to impeach him.) And I think Trump is a pragmatist who values contingencies, knows he got outplayed this time (this does not make him stupid, even Napoleon, the smartest, most successful commander in all history, won 60 battles but lost seven), and didn't want to risk being impeached and removed because then he's not allowed to run again in 2024.
And for all those saying Trump should have fought harder... You have no idea what Trump knows. If he tells the military to do x and the RINOs, Dems and deep state convince the generals to ignore him, what's he going to do? If the Cabinet 25ths him (and they're all cowards who've been told they might be in legal jeopardy if they helped Trump "incite the riot" which is why they're quitting; look it up, even the fake news is reporting this is why they're quitting), what's he going to do? It's one man versus the entire system, and he's fighting harder than anyone has ever had before. I don't know what's going to happen on the 20th but all I know is I will not abandon Trump.
My main priority is to keep Trump and his family alive. The movement itself will not died out.. People never forget
And neither will Trump. It's obvious he's not going anywhere, that he'll keep fighting with every bone in his body, through every plausible option available to him.
Trump told us his plan on election night, it was the SCOTUS. When that failed it was pence. He has hardly anyone around him that isn't a wolf in sheep's clothing. He was 100% set up by both sides, that his been his biggest downfall in trusting the GOP. I unfortunately do not think he has any options left. I don't think he will try to use the military and I don't think they would even get involved. Hopefully I am wrong and something does happen. But as you said I will not abandon him and I thank him for his fight, he didn't have to give up a life of luxury to be treated like shit but he did. No one else could go through what this man has.
I agree. And to be honest, I don't think he actually ever trusted the GOP (although of course he would have outwardly pretended he did because that's how you make allies). I know that isn't too popular a take on this site but I think Trump knows a hell of a lot more about the mechanics of gaining and maintaining power than the posters here (who'd have been 25thed by Pence and Rod Rosenstein a few months in), and knew you couldn't take over a political party and a state apparatus overnight (not without coming across as too radical and losing the support of the people outside of his most enthusiastic base).
He knew he was surrounded by snakes on all sides but look at what he accomplished. The largest number of voters a President has ever received, a GROWING rather than shrinking movement, a GOP that at least pretended to bend the knee out of fear for his voters, kingmaker not just of the GOP but of conservative media (he killed Fox and he told the CEO of Newsmax he could get the entire audience to leave Newsmax with a Tweet and he's right)... and if he does run again in 2024, he'll win.
Trump said the MAGA movement is just beginning. I don't know what his plan is, whether it's the plan everyone gets called a "doomer" for even mentioning (just like you'd get called a "doomer" for correctly predicting the SC would throw out the suit and that Pence would turn on him), or whether he still has an ace up his sleeve, but I'm following Trump.
It's up to us to keep spreading the truth and chipping away at the dam holding everything back. Its clear the deep state has had a death grip on our government for a long time and what is going on now is clear desperation to shut us up. I don't think it is something that one man from the outside could come in and bring down in 4-8 years. Unless he pulls off a miracle it's up to us to carry the torch to victory.
The military can go online. They know what we know. If they ignore an order, it's treason and they are enemies.
Of course it's treason. The military might be based but the generals are not (and the military is trained to listen to the chain of command), and I wouldn't put anything past the deep state - even outright treason. Hell, Pelosi is doing exactly that when trying to convince the Pentagon to ignore Trump's order. Trump will know whether he has people who will carry out his orders or not (but he might be severely doubtful if people pretending to be on his side all just came out and revealed themselves to be traitors conspiring against him, like Pence).
However, you're right. I don't know how much faith i have anymore. Ain't been in, in 8 years.
The UCMJ includes that it is illegal to follow an unlawful order. They are trained to do no such thing. At least, the corps is.
Something bothered me in Trumps speech on the 6th, it niggled away at me until last night. It's at the 3hr mark on this video: https://youtu.be/IvJVZAxJE8Y?t=10801
He says Pence doing nothing would be harder than doing something. It would be harder because more than half a nation would think he was a traitor. Doing something was easy because the cheating was so obvious. What if the Dems were counting on Pence to stop the election so they could impeach Trump for stopping the election/inauguration; what if by letting it go through they were now caught in an active coup. It might explain the panic and the brazen and obvious way they are now censoring; to the point that more normies are "waking" due to the twitter and facebook among others cutting off a world leader from his people.
Either way, we find out soon enough so at least there won't be too long to wait.
Vanity Fair is fake news... But you base your whole argument in it?
Bruh
You think Graham didn't call the President and blackmail him with the vote of the Senate? Because that sounds exactly like what Graham would do and it makes the entire conspiracy, Trump's "disappointing" actions, make sense.
I wouldn't trust Vanity Fair is what I'm saying.
Not ruling it out though.
Fair.
How do you downvote?
"and invoking the Insurrection Act as a last resort, declassifying everything and using the military" soooo are you saying that's what happens now?
I'm not sure. We don't know what Trump knows, what his actual options are in front of him. There's plenty of options a President SHOULD have on the table (like the Insurrection Act), but the conspiracy against him doesn't care at all about laws. Pelosi is literally trying to commit a military coup against the President and have the Pentagon ignore his orders. Pence and McConnell literally deployed the National Guard on their own, coordinating with the Secretary of Defense.
It might be that they all played Trump and now his options are truly limited. We just don't know. He could have put out the video just to con the conspiracy, get them off his back for a second and convince the RINOs to avoid convicting him in the forthcoming impeachment. Then he'll make his move anyway. Or he might have truly been outplayed (this time).