Are there any details to support that rumor? Sadly, the media can say literally anything, and even if the opposite is later proven the damage has been done and the narrative sticks. Framing the narrative.
Well we do know that the Capitol hill officer, Sicknick, was an avid trump supporter and has been since the beginning. Also I heard he wasn't hit over the head from a fire extinguisher.... but his family doesn't want to reveal how he died because "political issues" what ever that means. Maybe he got bonked with a smoke grenade..... who knows.
The fact that Trump supporters haven't gone on shooting sprees and blowing places up since the start of the shutdown madness proves we're the most controlled and reserved people on the planet. The sad reality is, if Trump doesn't come through in the next week or so, they'll push through all their radicalized responses regardless.
Actually, its the opposite. If Trump doesn't come through that's when all hell is going to break loose. Everyone is going to feel like they've lost their minds and go apeshit. I sure as hell hope there is something cooking.
I firmly believe there were over a million people on the 6th (based on experienced accounts) and there was no gun violence and no deaths caused by Trump supporters.
Yeah this is wild. NY Post has an article saying he was a Trump supporter too. Very sad. No wonder if family is not happy about MSM using his death like a political football.
Dont give glowies or Qtards ideas. Qtards and glowies already tanked Trumps chances of winning this election by fucking storminng the building... I am seeing Qtards posting the most insane fucking shit I have ever seen. I truly think we let them get out of hand. You are about to see Qtards downvoting me, it's sad, but I guess after January 20th hopefully that shit ends.
spez: anyone downvoting me is coping. Trump condemned them. It was bad, he didnt want it. You guys are losing your fucking minds, i understand though, believing something is true for so long and it being proven wrong is hard to grasp. Just move on, we all have to man. It fucking sucks but it's the fucking truth.
Like not wearing masks? I still go to the grocery store right now and am basically the only one I see not wearing a mask. Masks are a visual indicator of where the public is at in terms of compliance or defiance.
So no, I disagree. We are not seeing non-violent revolt and civil disobedience right now like we need to be.
I'm getting downvoted because too many cucks defend wearing masks by changing the conversation to waiting on things like insurrection. Nothing is going to change if we don't start being defiant NOW with little things and then grow that defiance.
It's whatever at this point. I expect this place to be banned ISP-wide by the end of February if people don't tighten the fuck up. I will once again say, I told you so.
With all due respect, that helps nothing. Be defiant in your community. You'd be surprised what small acts and conversations in public can do to encourage others.
They keep taking our rights away and push for invasive laws.
Republicans: "If A gets passed we will be out in the street protesting with our guns overthrowing the tyranny!"
A gets passed
Republicans: "Ok but as long as B is not passed"...
B gets passed
....
....
We have now run out of letters and almost out of rights. You cannot legally gather in your own house for Christmas as a family. There is no line in the sand where something will actually happen. I am starting to believe the softness of this fucking dystopia is too strong, people are too lax. And I am part of the problem hoping someone else will take the lead myself.
The fact that people think this just shows how afraid they are of the left. They're literally already trying to attack us to the maximum extent they can and these pussies are worried that if you fight back they'll attack us even more.
the only response I'm afraid of is a half-assed one by the easily moved like we got on the 6th. I mean, thank you Boomer and Larper pedes, but you're not exactly our shock troops or our tactical squad.
I have an eery calm going right now. many of you have echoed it. it's called readiness.
no plans as of yet glowies, but we will be SURE to let you know.
They don't need excuses to suppress conservatives, so neither do we. Your patriotic duty requires that you protect the innocent and destroy tyranny wherever it rears its ugly head; The actions you take to accomplish these tasks need no further justification.
It is possible to fight back effectively in a non-violent and non-criminal manner, and someone has put serious years of study into studying this. His name was Gene Sharp.
However, it requires large-scale organization, coordination, and cooperation and it seems that I can’t seem to get anyone here to understand anything about it. That’s not too surprising though because people here are individualists and used to doing their own thing, not being organized.
To get a sense of what tactics I’m talking about, imagine you got millions of people to go on strike for a few days. Politicians would be forced to do something different if you could get enough people to do it. Problem is that most people will refuse to join the strike until things get much worse, meaning you don’t end up with enough people. So big tech trying to crack down on communications is probably not enough to outrage enough people enough to do something like this, but if they did I bet some anti-censorship laws would get passed really fast.
But I would still recommend reading what Gene Sharp wrote about this stuff because we seem to be moving in a direction where people will be outraged enough that they will be willing to do stuff like go on strike, refuse to comply with orders, etc. Better start reading about how the non-violent tactics work now so you’ll understand later when organizers try to organize.
Exactly. All the civil war is inevitable LARPers seem to be deluded. The only way to win a civil war is to basically do what the dems are doing now. Take power, control the narrative, push your enemies around over and over again until they break and decide to start shooting. Then, you can say that they shot first and accuse them of attempting to overthrow the government. Then, crush them using all of the state powers that you have, and frame it as putting down a rebellion by the domestic terrorists.
Yep. And people are going to fall for it too. It won't matter what Trump really says, or really does. People are going to do stupid shit and make life for everyone else worse by doing so, while also giving the left more power. Instead of working against them in productive ways.
This isn't the year 1776. We are not the founding fathers, or the original 13 colonies. This is a much different situation that we are in. We have things to deal with that they did not, and they understood and were infinitely more prepared for what they wanted to accomplish. While the majority of people pushing for stuff now have no idea what any of it would really entail.
They need an excuse?
Lol exactly. Response or not they're gonna do it full speed ahead anyway.
They can just use antifa to pose as us, or use archived footage of some protest, and their useful idiots will totally buy it.
I'm sure they'd love to have more. That's what's so evil about all of it - no regard for life, only the end goal.
But right now, they have plenty with the psyop they just pulled. Not one person killed by Trump supporters.
Well supposedly one cop had his head bashed in by a fire extinguisher. I am leaning towards it being antifa.
Are there any details to support that rumor? Sadly, the media can say literally anything, and even if the opposite is later proven the damage has been done and the narrative sticks. Framing the narrative.
Well we do know that the Capitol hill officer, Sicknick, was an avid trump supporter and has been since the beginning. Also I heard he wasn't hit over the head from a fire extinguisher.... but his family doesn't want to reveal how he died because "political issues" what ever that means. Maybe he got bonked with a smoke grenade..... who knows.
We all know this already will be the next viral meme.
It will definitely help justify their shit further. We all need to just keep level headed and hold the line while waiting for Trump's next move.
The fact that Trump supporters haven't gone on shooting sprees and blowing places up since the start of the shutdown madness proves we're the most controlled and reserved people on the planet. The sad reality is, if Trump doesn't come through in the next week or so, they'll push through all their radicalized responses regardless.
Controlled and reserved, or disorganized and afraid?
It seems to me it's both.
Yes
Some of that.
Nope. Most are just being patient and waiting and seeing what happens.
Why not both?
GTFO
What are you doing to prove me wrong?
Actually, its the opposite. If Trump doesn't come through that's when all hell is going to break loose. Everyone is going to feel like they've lost their minds and go apeshit. I sure as hell hope there is something cooking.
I mean at that point, what have we got to lose? Our lives? They'll be taking those anyway with their push for totalitarianism.
I lived a free American. I will die a free American.
I firmly believe there were over a million people on the 6th (based on experienced accounts) and there was no gun violence and no deaths caused by Trump supporters.
Even the Capitol Hill Cop may have died from medical issues, they don't have a confirmed cause of death.
Yeah this is wild. NY Post has an article saying he was a Trump supporter too. Very sad. No wonder if family is not happy about MSM using his death like a political football.
Key point here.
Dont give glowies or Qtards ideas. Qtards and glowies already tanked Trumps chances of winning this election by fucking storminng the building... I am seeing Qtards posting the most insane fucking shit I have ever seen. I truly think we let them get out of hand. You are about to see Qtards downvoting me, it's sad, but I guess after January 20th hopefully that shit ends.
spez: anyone downvoting me is coping. Trump condemned them. It was bad, he didnt want it. You guys are losing your fucking minds, i understand though, believing something is true for so long and it being proven wrong is hard to grasp. Just move on, we all have to man. It fucking sucks but it's the fucking truth.
Don't fight back guys, or else those tricky radical lefties will do the same radical leftist shit they've been doing and will continue to do anyway.
If Trump supporters do anything before the 20th and Trump really had something in the works it could fuck it up.
Notice the Antifa false flag is for the 17th? Got to get it in there with just enough time to build a narrative and move in congress.
Do not fight back with violence.
However, fight back if you live in a blue county by not wearing your mask and shaming others who are wearing them.
With all due respect, there's been 4 years of non-violent response from the Right. It hasn't worked in the slightest.
Like not wearing masks? I still go to the grocery store right now and am basically the only one I see not wearing a mask. Masks are a visual indicator of where the public is at in terms of compliance or defiance.
So no, I disagree. We are not seeing non-violent revolt and civil disobedience right now like we need to be.
I'm with you. I highkey feel like people are trying to accelerate us getting banned from the internet.
I'm getting downvoted because too many cucks defend wearing masks by changing the conversation to waiting on things like insurrection. Nothing is going to change if we don't start being defiant NOW with little things and then grow that defiance.
It's whatever at this point. I expect this place to be banned ISP-wide by the end of February if people don't tighten the fuck up. I will once again say, I told you so.
With all due respect, that helps nothing. Be defiant in your community. You'd be surprised what small acts and conversations in public can do to encourage others.
Does it matter? They already engaged in a psyop to frame us to do that exact thing. Whether we take action or not they are going to fuck us.
They keep taking our rights away and push for invasive laws.
Republicans: "If A gets passed we will be out in the street protesting with our guns overthrowing the tyranny!" A gets passed Republicans: "Ok but as long as B is not passed"... B gets passed ....
.... We have now run out of letters and almost out of rights. You cannot legally gather in your own house for Christmas as a family. There is no line in the sand where something will actually happen. I am starting to believe the softness of this fucking dystopia is too strong, people are too lax. And I am part of the problem hoping someone else will take the lead myself.
You've already submitted.
I am still fighting.
lol.. username checks out
No reason not to imo. We have the power.
Fucked if you do and fucked if you don't. So DO!
I will be clear, there is a debate over whether they are trying to stop us from taking action while we have an advantage or to use it as a policy.
Therefore, do try organizing and preparing, but don't go out yet.
If you disagree, do so respectfully.
they dont need a pretense anymore, its silly to think they do
The fact that people think this just shows how afraid they are of the left. They're literally already trying to attack us to the maximum extent they can and these pussies are worried that if you fight back they'll attack us even more.
Yes, this post is coward speak. Loser faggot stuff. If that was true, wtf do we have a military. Fight for freedom or live as a slave.
saving your country = radicalized response?
the only response I'm afraid of is a half-assed one by the easily moved like we got on the 6th. I mean, thank you Boomer and Larper pedes, but you're not exactly our shock troops or our tactical squad.
I have an eery calm going right now. many of you have echoed it. it's called readiness.
no plans as of yet glowies, but we will be SURE to let you know.
I agree. For the first time since the election I'm at peace, waiting without stressing.
How naive to think that they feel that they need an excuse. Their stated mission is to fundamentally change the USA.
If we act - they will use it as an excuse to resort to more authoritarian means.
If we restrain ourselves - they will become more emboldened to resort to more authoritarian means.
Where does anyone got off to the point that playing nice means they will play nice?
You r right pede.
They don't need excuses to suppress conservatives, so neither do we. Your patriotic duty requires that you protect the innocent and destroy tyranny wherever it rears its ugly head; The actions you take to accomplish these tasks need no further justification.
Right brother pede. Protect the innocent and attack tyranny and evil with extreme prejudice.
Yepppp the last piece of control they need is to take everyone's guns away. That's when shit is going to get real.
Ding ding ding, we got a winner.
I also wonder if this is the real goal here.
It is possible to fight back effectively in a non-violent and non-criminal manner, and someone has put serious years of study into studying this. His name was Gene Sharp.
However, it requires large-scale organization, coordination, and cooperation and it seems that I can’t seem to get anyone here to understand anything about it. That’s not too surprising though because people here are individualists and used to doing their own thing, not being organized.
To get a sense of what tactics I’m talking about, imagine you got millions of people to go on strike for a few days. Politicians would be forced to do something different if you could get enough people to do it. Problem is that most people will refuse to join the strike until things get much worse, meaning you don’t end up with enough people. So big tech trying to crack down on communications is probably not enough to outrage enough people enough to do something like this, but if they did I bet some anti-censorship laws would get passed really fast.
But I would still recommend reading what Gene Sharp wrote about this stuff because we seem to be moving in a direction where people will be outraged enough that they will be willing to do stuff like go on strike, refuse to comply with orders, etc. Better start reading about how the non-violent tactics work now so you’ll understand later when organizers try to organize.
"to push for progressive policies" should read "to push for authoritarian rule", similar to the Reichstagg Fire in 1930s Germany
It doesn’t matter. Nobody worthwhile is going to be sympathetic when very bad things start happening to the oppressors.
Yep they want us angry and/or demoralized. The last thing we need is shit that justifies escalating things even further.
Maybe not a bad idea, since we apparently need SOMETHING to get people to find their balls and get their asses into gear.
Bullshit. They make shit up. We need to stop worrying about that. They dont believe in objective truth.
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Meet all hostility with love.
"I love you brother, but you're ill. We'll be waiting for you with open arms when you're healed."
The FBI reads a couple hundred of these and they'll quietly go away
Exactly. All the civil war is inevitable LARPers seem to be deluded. The only way to win a civil war is to basically do what the dems are doing now. Take power, control the narrative, push your enemies around over and over again until they break and decide to start shooting. Then, you can say that they shot first and accuse them of attempting to overthrow the government. Then, crush them using all of the state powers that you have, and frame it as putting down a rebellion by the domestic terrorists.
The left acting like Palpatine to get people to release their anger.
Yep
They're clearly after your Second Amendment. It will never happen though.
Since when do they need an excuse? Their crazy has been on display for years.
There is no timeline where these people actually win in the end.
That thinking leads to complacency.
There is always a chance they will win, and we have to constantly fight like we're losing.
Trump supporters will keep losing if they pretend always be above the violence and just protest.
We either get pissed off and give them that excuse, or we do nothing and embolden them. Not a winning scenario.
Yea.... But we aren't overtly emotional autistic children like the left so it won't work.
Yep. And people are going to fall for it too. It won't matter what Trump really says, or really does. People are going to do stupid shit and make life for everyone else worse by doing so, while also giving the left more power. Instead of working against them in productive ways.
This isn't the year 1776. We are not the founding fathers, or the original 13 colonies. This is a much different situation that we are in. We have things to deal with that they did not, and they understood and were infinitely more prepared for what they wanted to accomplish. While the majority of people pushing for stuff now have no idea what any of it would really entail.