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AussieTrumpSupporter [S] 33 points ago +33 / -0

Parler could use them but didn't at the start. They used Amazon's DNS. That would have given them some more time but staff probably knew they used Amazon anyway.

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muslimporn 29 points ago +29 / -0

Many amazon services are extremely pricey. I'm surprised they would go with a pure AWS stack.

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AussieTrumpSupporter [S] 21 points ago +21 / -0

Totally true, Gab was bootstrapped though. Parler wasn't. Cloudflare saves you a fortune in DNS lookups, DDoS mitigation and static content bandwidth.

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muslimporn 18 points ago +18 / -0

Cloudflare is a layer, really just a large scale reverse proxy. DNS lookups, that's metered with AWS potentially but not with dedicated, etc.

AWS for internal architecture can be absolutely appalling. Some of the metering can make it anywhere from 10X to 1000X more expensive.

For certain services they can be more cost effective based on pooling like shared hosting always has been. People make the wrong assumption though that cloud is always more cost effective.

On top of that they have sinks/drains. The same as the restaurants charging twice as much to ten times more for drinks. The same as the pub charging twice as much to ten times more than the super market for drinks.

There are people out their throwing away millions to AWS just because of a bad choice of hosting or sinking millions into cloud because they wrote come algorithm horrendously inefficiently but instead of fixing it scaling it over loads of machines.

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zooty 11 points ago +11 / -0

AWS can make sense if you have extremely bursty requirements but definitely yeah on expensive. I worked for a company that made a big push from VMWare on their own iron to AWS and I hear it's all been moved back since I left.

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AussieTrumpSupporter [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

Totally true. I'd imagine Parler wouldn't use a service like elastic beanstalk though. It's going to be a hard slog ahead to transfer it to a new provider but it's doable as Gab.com has shown. Much easier if you can go down to do it rather than doing it live.

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SirPokeSmottington 0 points ago +1 / -1

Some of the metering can make it anywhere from 10X to 1000X more expensive.

Yeah, I do NOT get people suggesting AWS as CHEAP.

It's CHEAP if you have the Free Tier and don't use it... well, not really even then. I pay a few bucks a month per server, and that's JUST TO HOLD MY DATA, no traffic to speak of. While I can get a dedicated server, for a couple bucks more a month, with unlimited traffic.

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wethepepe 7 points ago +7 / -0

Ahh. So Parler was backed by someone elses dollars to start?

To me, that explains why they seemed to come out of no where and get so talked up

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sc00b3 11 points ago +11 / -0

Betting money people that wrote it were an AWS shop (probably Java).

They should have done multi/cloud with hybrid knowing that they were targets from the start (especially if you know your competitor in Gab).

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AussieTrumpSupporter [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

It was a lack of foresight. They'll find someone else. OVH in Europe is probably fine. Otherwise there are bulletproof hosting providers but they cost a bit more.

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mintscape 7 points ago +7 / -0

Parler had huge investment when they started but they for sure got some bad advice. Amazon is woke as fuck, maybe to deflect from their terrible labor conditions and other sleazy tactics.

AWS is for sure expensive but I guess they had the money and it was scalable, however, AWS kicking them off was very likely to happen and it did.

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muslimporn 6 points ago +6 / -0

If you use the web based version it's obvious to me their techs aren't all that great. It's glitchy as fuck.

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mintscape 5 points ago +6 / -1

I only got as far as the phone number request, having that requirement was a very bad business choice.

I just get a not so great feeling about Parler, it was started with huge seed money and it reminds me of the dotcom days (I'm old) where tech companies would throw around investor money and make many wrong steps.

They saw what happened to Gab, yet not only did they not want their own infrastructure, they went with a woke company like Amazon that is also super expensive.

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dennis_nedry 6 points ago +6 / -0

Convenience, that's the word you're looking for. It's convenient to have everything in the same place, but also very dangerous.

AWS is pricey in bandwidth mostly, other services tend to be cheaper, especially if locked for 1 or 3 years.

Best thing to do as a site owner is to build your own stuff on your own servers, that way any VPS or dedicated server will do, and it's easy to migrate between providers.

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muslimporn 4 points ago +4 / -0

In theory it might seem like that but I have to tell you on a lot of fronts AWS is absolute hell. Theory verses practice. It's very hit and miss if you'll truly gain that benefit.

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dennis_nedry 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yep, that's how they get you, same with GCP or Azure.

There are better clouds with more transparent pricing and no traps like: Vultr and Linode. Or Upcloud and 99Stack in Europe.

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tl3c0 1 point ago +1 / -0

Teraform and Ansible ftw on all things.... the ultimate "I am outa here" in infrastructure.