I don’t disagree with your premise, but go back through my post history, I was frequently heavily downvoted for pointing out that we were woefully unprepared for an actual violent confrontation and we shouldn’t be talking about that in the open, anyway. Remember all the “fuck optics” talk? All of the mocking of people who warned against espousing violence for not being sufficiently dedicated to the cause?

And regardless of wether anybody “truly thought” violence was or was not the answer, mods were stickying multiple posts suggesting it was so either they were reckless idiots, or they supported violent tactics we have now decided as a community to disavow. Whatever the case, we should be honest about it, understand where we made mistakes and figure out how to be more effective next time. We suffered a crushing loss. GEOTUS has nine days left, he hasn’t been heard from in 96 hours, to the extent Republicans were our allies they are completely out of power And by all accounts Trump has less popular support than he did a week ago (note I’m not saying that is fair or justified).

Without looking at the actual facts and not some infowars/gateway pundit spin, we cannot figure out how to do better next time.

If people want to tell me these aren’t discussions for out in the open, fine, that makes sense. Or if people want to tell me we have to chart a new course, also fine. But don’t piss on my shoes and tell me it’s raining.

But that isn’t the choice. The mods had a great post a few days ago saying; “we support the President, he has called for peace.” Good. From here on out, we are a non-violent resistance movement. Just don’t try to rewrite history. We called for Mike Pence to be tried, convicted and executed. That is just the truth. It’s fine if we have reconsidered. But don’t pretend we didn’t say the things we said. It’s how we get discredited.