Agreed BUT it was because those principals were enforced in society. I don't think people realized just how strict society used to be. Atheists might not have been able to teach kids for example. We enforced those principals on people.
Unfortunately, the right has taken "freedom" to the extreme and thinks everyone can and should do whatever they want but that is the belief that got us in this mess. That is literally the slave morality inversion. Society should enforce strict objective morality and it should be rooted in Judeo-Christian principals because those morals are rooted in strength. It's about becoming a better person, being morally virtuous yet humble and not entitled. But you must enforce the principals and shape society in a manner that adheres to these principals. As soon as you say you can do whatever you want without consequence, people undermine the principals. Unrighteousness should not be tolerated.
Unfortunately, the right has taken "freedom" to the extreme and thinks everyone can and should do whatever they want
That may be describing libertarians specifically.
That is literally the slave morality inversion. Society should enforce strict objective morality and it should be rooted in Judeo-Christian principals because those morals are rooted in strength. It's about becoming a better person, being morally virtuous yet humble and not entitled. But you must enforce the principals and shape society in a manner that adheres to these principals. As soon as you say you can do whatever you want without consequence, people undermine the principals. Unrighteousness should not be tolerated.
Very true. Great book by Tom Holland titled Dominion details the influence of Christianity on the world. It is a tome but worth the time investment.
Not libertarians but many people on here who don't describe as libertarians.
Example:
Banning porn. Porn adds no value to our society and causes tons of social harm. Yes, even with a ban people will get access to it but at least it'll significantly reduce the market. We as a society won't be encouraging it. It is a signal that it is wrong. A ban would reduce its production and consumption.
Many conservatives would be dead against it and use values of freedom, low government, etc... as reasons why.
Other example would be gay marriage or promotion of LGBTQ+ in society. Let people be gay but ban promoting it. This will upset a lot of conservatives who think we shouldn't ban things. Same thing with potentially banning certain kinds of adverts that we don't deem as morally appropriate. I'm thinking any advert that uses sex appeal for example.
Making adultery illegal for example. It is after all one of the ten commandments and there's nothing good in it. It's breaking a contract and it causes immense emotional harm.
Just things like this. As soon as you start trying to shape society toward the path of morally righteous, people say you're being restrictive or repressive and that people should be free to live their life as they please.
Agreed BUT it was because those principals were enforced in society. I don't think people realized just how strict society used to be. Atheists might not have been able to teach kids for example. We enforced those principals on people.
Unfortunately, the right has taken "freedom" to the extreme and thinks everyone can and should do whatever they want but that is the belief that got us in this mess. That is literally the slave morality inversion. Society should enforce strict objective morality and it should be rooted in Judeo-Christian principals because those morals are rooted in strength. It's about becoming a better person, being morally virtuous yet humble and not entitled. But you must enforce the principals and shape society in a manner that adheres to these principals. As soon as you say you can do whatever you want without consequence, people undermine the principals. Unrighteousness should not be tolerated.
That may be describing libertarians specifically.
Very true. Great book by Tom Holland titled Dominion details the influence of Christianity on the world. It is a tome but worth the time investment.
Not libertarians but many people on here who don't describe as libertarians.
Example:
Banning porn. Porn adds no value to our society and causes tons of social harm. Yes, even with a ban people will get access to it but at least it'll significantly reduce the market. We as a society won't be encouraging it. It is a signal that it is wrong. A ban would reduce its production and consumption.
Many conservatives would be dead against it and use values of freedom, low government, etc... as reasons why.
Other example would be gay marriage or promotion of LGBTQ+ in society. Let people be gay but ban promoting it. This will upset a lot of conservatives who think we shouldn't ban things. Same thing with potentially banning certain kinds of adverts that we don't deem as morally appropriate. I'm thinking any advert that uses sex appeal for example.
Making adultery illegal for example. It is after all one of the ten commandments and there's nothing good in it. It's breaking a contract and it causes immense emotional harm.
Just things like this. As soon as you start trying to shape society toward the path of morally righteous, people say you're being restrictive or repressive and that people should be free to live their life as they please.
Completely agree and just pointing out that you are describing one of the hallmark differences between Conservatives and Libertarians.