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russianbot4673 1 point ago +1 / -0

ok yeah but i'm just saying what will happen. we won't win. fuck gop is right but we won't win. we were already saying we can't win another election if this one isn't overturned due to rigging. that still remains. now we're talking about splitting our vote on top of that. do the math.

not only that, but if it were TRUMP running against the GOP, you'd probably get a split greatly favoring trump over the GOP candidate (and he'd still lose like he did this time, due to rigging, which they'll have improved by then since they control everything now). but if it were someone else that trump picked to run in a 3rd party... a lot of normies would just vote for the republican. the split would prob be more down the middle. dems have basically turned trumpism against us and used it to destroy the gop and any chances for a 3rd party actually defeating them, imo.

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Monz 1 point ago +1 / -0

I get rigging happened it does not mean it happened everywhere. We have problem states. Yes. But they can be fixed. We can have secure elections again and not by calling in the military.

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russianbot4673 1 point ago +1 / -0

who's going to fix them? the people who allowed them to become corrupt in the first place, over a period of decades? it's not just the states it's the major urban centers, which are like their own little governments with their own bullshit and corruption. even republican state legislatures aren't going to do shit about it, especially not when they have either democrat or crooked governors. or when they're a bunch of rinos themselves.

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Monz 1 point ago +1 / -0

Stop counting in these people that have run un opposed for so long. The reason these elections are so jacked its not just at the fedrral but at the local level we need to see change from the bottom up and that starts at local elections. I'm telling you, it doesn't look it from here but there is a resurgence in people wanting to get involved at their local elections. Thats how we win. This populist movememt is not going to stop just because Trump is not leading it. He didnt start it, he was a conduit to it. Now its our turn to get involved, start focusing on alt tech, get good lawyers that are anti establishment and learn from whats going on here and obviously keep protesting no matter how illegal these fascist make it out to be.