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WeCax49 157 points ago +164 / -7

I've hired a lobbying firm to pressure Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan to stop using electronic voting machines. Obviously this is very costly, but hopefully it will be part of securing our elections moving forward.

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ProgramNerd 31 points ago +33 / -2

ehh sounds like a leftist larp to breed complacency.

he starts off with well they've been stolen nothing we can do, then offers a bs option that we all know wont do anything for you to FOMO onto.

Don't use dominion machines that give you election control, kthxbai.

hes laughing at you if you fall for that.

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MakeBeardsGreatAgain 0 points ago +2 / -2

☝️

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TrumpSaveAmerica -2 points ago +4 / -6

Fuck off Qtard, you retards fucked us all.

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unable_afternoon 43 points ago +47 / -4

So you’re still trying to “just vote them out”. You’re the one who isn’t living in reality.

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Kraznaya 11 points ago +13 / -2

He's not trying to "vote them out", he's trying to fix the electoral process.

Hiring a lobbyist group to change the laws is very different from running a grassroots campaign to vote for change. The lobbying approach may actually work because it involves speaking the only language these creatures understand: money and power. You offer them something in exchange for dropping electronic voting.

Basically, you have to offer a bigger bribe to get the system fixed than they stand to receive from the system being broken. It won't be cheap, but it might be the only way short of secession or violent revolution.

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BewareOfThePug 7 points ago +8 / -1

yeah, but you are going after the thing that gets them the job - how are you going to lobby turkeys to vote for christmas?

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Kraznaya 7 points ago +7 / -0

That's why you hire the lobbyists. If you had an answer to that, you would be the one doing the lobbying.

There's always something more you can offer these folks. An extreme example would be offering them a billion dollars each to fix the elections and resign their positions. They'd probably take that deal. If you just offer them a dollar, they'd laugh you out of the room. Lobbying is the process of finding out where in the middle of those two options you can find a mutually acceptable deal.

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unable_afternoon 3 points ago +4 / -1

We are the side of mostly rural and suburban people. The opposition is the side that has every big business on its side (except for mypillow). We are not where the money is. Other than gun ownership, our biggest points of leverage are probably truckers and farmers.
We’re not going to beat them by throwing money their way. In addition to the fact that we have less money, that’s also adding more to the corruption since you’re still just bribing politicians either way.

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this_mortal_coil 3 points ago +3 / -0

Depends on what you mean by "money." In terms of real assets (not Wall St monopoly notes) the red states do most of the heavy lifting in the real economy. In a civil unrest scenario, the opposition is poorly positioned.

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Rufus_Shinra 1 point ago +1 / -0

There is no bigger bribe than leftists controlling the federal government with unlimited money printing powers. This doesn't even factor in the blackmail and threats. Left can give the order and the media will dig up some woman from a govoners past and pay her to turn him into a rapist...unless he plays ball.

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resoluteAction 0 points ago +1 / -1

You'll never be able to bribe bigger than all fortune 500 companies combined.

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WeCax49 5 points ago +6 / -1

Alright, what's your solution? I'm doing everything I can.

States like Florida, and several others, have secure elections. We need to follow their model, and State Legislatures controlled by Republicans seem to be taking action. I'll note, I can't remember the last time a Republican was voted in thru fraud.

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unable_afternoon 5 points ago +6 / -1

A well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state. Throwing pennies at politicians isn’t. Giving chump change to these people won’t water the tree of Liberty either. Trying to work in good faith with criminals and traitors is how we got into this situation in the first place. Standing up to tyranny, not trying to bargain with it, is how america was founded and what it is based on. It’s not about who can out-lawyer who.
Actually your methodology might work, but you’ll have to have the force of a well regulated militia behind it otherwise you’ll just be laughed off like all of trump’s election fraud cases - despite the fact that truth was thoroughly on his side. There is no real justice or law in this country anymore.

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WeCax49 4 points ago +5 / -1

Thank you!

Right now, the main focus is on Nevada. We have a Democratic legislature, so obviously it's an uphill battle, but it's still worth pursuing.

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VA_MAGApede 2 points ago +2 / -0

As others have stated ignore the naysayers. God bless you patriot.

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jml1997 2 points ago +2 / -0

Florida elections are not secure and dont be delusional. Look at what happened in 2018. It was the exact same tactics as in Georgia this past election.

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WeCax49 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yes, and they cleaned them up following the midterms after pressure was placed on their legislatures.

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BeSafeAltAvoidDoxxin 1 point ago +1 / -0

I agree wholeheartedly with your approach and at least taking action rather than just bitching on the internet like many people

Unfortunately electronic is still just the first step, as bullshit like Philadelphia and Atlanta was mass ballot stuffing that they could do even if by hand, but at least it's a start

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WeCax49 2 points ago +3 / -1

It's still a start, and puts us on a good path..

Miami used to be amongst those cities you mention, but with enough pressure on their legislatures through peaceful protest, they took action and cleaned it up.

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Onlywayoutisthrough 1 point ago +1 / -0

Some people just don't want to see, this election was stolen with the most ... in our grill, so bold.

With NO CONSEQUENCE. NO jail time, No punishment.

No helicopter rides.....

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WeCax49 16 points ago +17 / -1

I'm fully self funding it. If I'm successful in pressuring one state legislature to clean up, then I'll look into setting up a crowdfunding page. I wouldn't want people to donate their own money into something I cannot guarantee will be successful.

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jaysizzles 9 points ago +9 / -0

not all heroes wear capes

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BasedTemplar 1 point ago +1 / -0

Is there a way we can verify what you’re saying is true without outing you? I’m kinda wary to believe someone is on this already.

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vegaspatriot1776 10 points ago +12 / -2

yeah, because every vote counts right?

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rossiFan 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes, it does...

HHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

deep breath

HHHHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAAAAAA

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GlockArm 7 points ago +11 / -4

Meaningless. They will deny it and call it voter suppression of black people and an effort by racist nazis to steal the election.

Shoot or give up. Stop pussyfooting around it.

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ZERGRUSHlimbaugh 1 point ago +1 / -0

When can we expect to see your face on the news, killed while trying to take on the cops?

Never since you're a glowie?

Yeah, thought so.

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jaysizzles 1 point ago +2 / -1

FBI shill much?

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WeCax49 -2 points ago +5 / -7

Shoot or give up. Stop pussyfooting around it.

This is the most idiotic thing I've ever read. Who's going to be firing the first shot, and whom is worthy of being at the receiving end? This kind of attitude makes you look like a dotard.

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Kraznaya 8 points ago +8 / -0

There's a lot of people here who are so demoralized that they don't even realize your approach is not "voting for different people".

Lobbying may be the only way to fix it without breaking up the country or resorting to violence, but people are too blinded by rage and doom to understand that.

A lot of pedes would probably benefit from turning off the internet for a while. This website is effectively a front-line battle in an information war and a lot of our troops here are critically wounded to the point that they're dragging us down.

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WeCax49 3 points ago +4 / -1

I totally agree- we need to think clearly, and be willing to take an organized approach.

I'm also a big fan of Scott Presler's approach to securing our elections: running candidates in State Legislatures that will stand up for election integrity, and other means. I do hope that Ali Alexander continues his movement: he was very successful in Miami back in 2018, his protests got them to clean up their elections fully.

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VA_MAGApede 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think you are correct. There has been a significant lack of critical thinking on .win. Some would rather cling onto fantasy instead of preparing for reality.

Further discussion seems to breakdown.

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BasedTemplar 1 point ago +1 / -0

This 1000%.

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BewareOfThePug 1 point ago +1 / -0

I guess BLM at the next confrontation...