When the NSA gets everything they want, they have too much info to funnel through. So why not set up email/vpns/sites that people who are "hiding" something will use to narrow the field they have to watch. protonmail has yet to allow subpoenas, as far as I'm aware, making it better than a lot of alternatives.
Negative. Protonmail has provided info a couple of times in the past, but ONLY on a SWISS court order (Switzerland is NOT part of Five/Nine/Fourteen Eyes alliance), and it was on Swiss subjects.
Here's the thing: ALL email services are subject to their own countries' laws and court orders, so you have to look at the "least of the evils". Every other email service is hosted in a country that is part of the Five/Nine/Fourteen Eyes alliances, so less safe from a legal privacy standpoint than ProtonMail. At least with ProtonMail, they won't honor any court order from anywhere except a Swiss court, and it has to be a matter of violation of Swiss laws.
The main thing that bothers me about ProtonMail is that they use PGP, which prevents them from encrypting subject lines, but it's a tradeoff. If you really want messaging security, better to go with a messaging system such as Signal rather than email.
You're right, there is no email service that is completely safe. However, ProtonMail has a lot going for it to make it one of the safest. If you need something safer, better to go with a messaging app such as Signal instead of an email service.
Hoping someone can thoroughly disprove this because these are concerning claims.
Here are a couple of links that y'all may find interesting:
https://www.techspot.com/news/82776-protonmail-review-secure-email-really-secure.html
https://restoreprivacy.com/email/reviews/protonmail/
Thank you for taking the time to follow up, I almost had a heart attack with the first link.
When the NSA gets everything they want, they have too much info to funnel through. So why not set up email/vpns/sites that people who are "hiding" something will use to narrow the field they have to watch. protonmail has yet to allow subpoenas, as far as I'm aware, making it better than a lot of alternatives.
Negative. Protonmail has provided info a couple of times in the past, but ONLY on a SWISS court order (Switzerland is NOT part of Five/Nine/Fourteen Eyes alliance), and it was on Swiss subjects.
thanks for the info! So I was right but it is even more borderline then I thought
Here's the thing: ALL email services are subject to their own countries' laws and court orders, so you have to look at the "least of the evils". Every other email service is hosted in a country that is part of the Five/Nine/Fourteen Eyes alliances, so less safe from a legal privacy standpoint than ProtonMail. At least with ProtonMail, they won't honor any court order from anywhere except a Swiss court, and it has to be a matter of violation of Swiss laws.
The main thing that bothers me about ProtonMail is that they use PGP, which prevents them from encrypting subject lines, but it's a tradeoff. If you really want messaging security, better to go with a messaging system such as Signal rather than email.
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You're right, there is no email service that is completely safe. However, ProtonMail has a lot going for it to make it one of the safest. If you need something safer, better to go with a messaging app such as Signal instead of an email service.
I set up an act.
Privacy Watchdog has some questionable info on their site.
Which info? I would prefer watchdog be proven wrong.
For starters, the paper by Prof. Kobeissi has been pretty much debunked. I'll try to find the link again for that info and post it here
That article really does read as though someone has an ax to grind.
I hope that's the case, but the initial cause for research was them working closely with Huawei.
https://protonmail.com/blog/clarifying-protonmail-and-huawei/