And when Jan 20 comes and goes, what then? "We'll get 'em in 2022!" perhaps? If you aren't at least planning right now, you're caught flatfooted when Adolf Biden is sworn in.
I will not walk side by side with Commies. They are organizing to kill us, fuck that. I will stay low stay hidden until I know without at doubt that my country has become communistic
Yes, they are. We hang together or we hang separately. I don't expect you to trust me. I'm an anonymous stranger on the internet. But you have people you trust. And they have people they trust, and so on. Organize with them. Don't fall for the antifa Jan 17 bullshit, organize your own on your own schedule.
Don't just sit there waiting for someone to save you or you'll die.
Protests are what people out of power with no clout do. They do not change hearts and minds and they do not win the argument on policy. They do nothing to advance a cause.
Protesting is tantamount to admitting defeat.
People who have power, clout and a plan to move forward, organize rallies, conferences, meetings etc but they don't get out and try to "take streets" like a bunch of lunatics.
Anyone who thinks it's a good idea for the party of law and order to yell at and insult police officers standing at a barricade or in a line is a complete moron. We do not yell at police and make asses of ourselves saying ridiculous things to cops doing their job.
We back the blue. I know some of you don't but the vast majority of us do. Those of us who back the blue are over the age of a seven so we understand cops follow orders and have a chain of command. We know that everyone who has a job works for a paycheck and follows the bosses' orders. We know this because we are not imbeciles that just realized a day ago that picking a verbal fight with a cop while drunk or high on the finer points of constitutional law ends up with your butt in the pen. Since we are law abiding and taxpaying citizens, we also understand, cops are mostly good and there's a few bad apples but American cops in all cities are a far cry from actual fascist jackboots. If they were putting their boots on your face, hundreds of thousands of Americans would be killed by them every year. Since this is not the case, we adults understand cops are not jackbooted fascist.
Lastly, anyone who thinks its a good idea to march armed to capitals right before inauguration needs to understand, you are putting yourself and a many other people in danger. Tensions are very high and you and others around you may be injured, shot and/or killed. This is a contentious election with a bunch of unhinged people on both sides (but mostly the other side) so doing things to inflame the situation is not smart. Anyone who gets into a scuffle in anyway is going to be painted as an insurrectionist, hurt our MAGA movement and end up having the book thrown at him. Be Smart! Be Calm. This too shall pass.
I don't know how often you're on tdw or whatever, but I was downvoted a lot before the January 6th protest for arguing that against those who were in some sort of vision quest to convince us all that cops were the enemy. In fact, I had that argument with a few pedes very early this morning.
Protesting the election isn't going to undo what happened on the sixth. I love hopium too but it doesn't change the fact, protests are ineffective and are pretty much the tactics of a the weak, ineffective and out of power. As Americans, we are told time and time again about how great protests are and how valuable they are they are a form of free speech because THE LEFT is indoctinating us into their political style of mob tactics and mob violence.
In reality, protests are not useful when the people who are protesting have no power or clout.
If you want to make a difference, bring a lobby group to the capitol and put pressure on your state representative, state senator and governor to enact Voter ID Laws and election transparency acts.
Protesting the election isn't going to undo what happened on the sixth
Perfect is the enemy of good. Protesting the shutdown didn't end the shutdown, but it did work out for the gym owner guy. Imagine if everyone did protest with him. The shutdown would be effectively over.
In reality, protests are not useful when the people who are protesting have no power or clout.
Dr. Martin Luther King's ghost would like to have a word with you.
Despite what your history books teach, King had the majority of Americans backing him up. The only real group MLK JR was fighting was the Southern Democrats and they were a distinct minority at the time. MLK JR was smart because he built a coalition of Republicans, Catholics, independents, Jews and West Coast Hollywood and East Coast Wallstreet and their media. For one solid instance there, all the stars aligned for MLK JR. None of that would have been possible before television and none of those groups would have come together without MLK JR's leadership.
Protests work when they are a display of the powerful. They do not work when it is a futile gesture of those out of power. If you want MAGA to be a movement, what we should start doing is organizing in our own neighborhoods.
Trump does have a majority of Americans according to my heart but it's more like 50% and some of our number are weak and will fold like a cheap suit. We also don't have the major institutions - such as big national media, the newspapers, the entertainment, the bureaucracy, the schools and the academia. We are greatly under representative in all those areas, including Wall Street.
We are the counter culture, not the culture. What we need to do going forward is to organize, start putting our own systems in place, pressuring our own leaders/elected officials and throwing cogs in the wheels of their workings.
The success of a counter culture is to mock and ridicule the ascendant culture. To disrupt their sacred cows and topple their symbols.
For instance, the NancyLoveDonaldTrump hashtag is a fantastic thing to do as the counter culture. Memes are great for counter cultures. However, protests will only work if we put an apparatus into place that's friendly to our protests. For instance, when the left was the counter culture, their "safe haven" was Berkeley and they enshrined it as the "Free Speech capital of the world" which is laughable now but back then, Berkeley's administration was in favor of the protests. What we need to do is find the spot that will favor us and that's where we need to go to make our points. yelling helplessly at the sky in all the state capitals, espcially when it's so obviously and antifa set up, isn't a good idea.
Although I'll give you this, I thought the 2nd Amendment protest in Virginia was a bad idea and it turned out gloriously. So maybe I should be a bit a more open minded. 'scuse me, I'm a conservative and we're used to saying "no, that won't work" right off the bat to everything.
Despite what your history books teach, King had the majority of Americans backing him up. The only real group MLK JR was fighting was the Southern Democrats and they were a distinct minority at the time. MLK JR was smart because he built a coalition of Republicans, Catholics, independents, Jews and West Coast Hollywood and East Coast Wallstreet and their media. For one solid instance there, all the stars aligned for MLK JR. None of that would have been possible before television and none of those groups would have come together without MLK JR's leadership.
Protests work when they are a display of the powerful. They do not work when it is a futile gesture of those out of power. If you want MAGA to be a movement, what we should start doing is organizing in our own neighborhoods.
So much confusion in this
And when Jan 20 comes and goes, what then? "We'll get 'em in 2022!" perhaps? If you aren't at least planning right now, you're caught flatfooted when Adolf Biden is sworn in.
Don't protest...its a set up.... ORGANIZE
You can't run a revolution, if that is your thing, by shooting from the hip.
Smarter than that we are...
Run in all the directions at once!
fuck off
I will not walk side by side with Commies. They are organizing to kill us, fuck that. I will stay low stay hidden until I know without at doubt that my country has become communistic
Yes, they are. We hang together or we hang separately. I don't expect you to trust me. I'm an anonymous stranger on the internet. But you have people you trust. And they have people they trust, and so on. Organize with them. Don't fall for the antifa Jan 17 bullshit, organize your own on your own schedule.
Don't just sit there waiting for someone to save you or you'll die.
Do NOT protest.
I'll try to make this as clear as possible.
Protests are what people out of power with no clout do. They do not change hearts and minds and they do not win the argument on policy. They do nothing to advance a cause.
Protesting is tantamount to admitting defeat.
People who have power, clout and a plan to move forward, organize rallies, conferences, meetings etc but they don't get out and try to "take streets" like a bunch of lunatics.
Anyone who thinks it's a good idea for the party of law and order to yell at and insult police officers standing at a barricade or in a line is a complete moron. We do not yell at police and make asses of ourselves saying ridiculous things to cops doing their job.
We back the blue. I know some of you don't but the vast majority of us do. Those of us who back the blue are over the age of a seven so we understand cops follow orders and have a chain of command. We know that everyone who has a job works for a paycheck and follows the bosses' orders. We know this because we are not imbeciles that just realized a day ago that picking a verbal fight with a cop while drunk or high on the finer points of constitutional law ends up with your butt in the pen. Since we are law abiding and taxpaying citizens, we also understand, cops are mostly good and there's a few bad apples but American cops in all cities are a far cry from actual fascist jackboots. If they were putting their boots on your face, hundreds of thousands of Americans would be killed by them every year. Since this is not the case, we adults understand cops are not jackbooted fascist.
Lastly, anyone who thinks its a good idea to march armed to capitals right before inauguration needs to understand, you are putting yourself and a many other people in danger. Tensions are very high and you and others around you may be injured, shot and/or killed. This is a contentious election with a bunch of unhinged people on both sides (but mostly the other side) so doing things to inflame the situation is not smart. Anyone who gets into a scuffle in anyway is going to be painted as an insurrectionist, hurt our MAGA movement and end up having the book thrown at him. Be Smart! Be Calm. This too shall pass.
Protesting election rigging is not admitting defeat. It's the opposite of that.
Nobody said yell at cops but you.
Nobody said don't back the blue but you.
Nobody said make an armed march to the capitol but you.
This is what gaslighting looks like.
I don't know how often you're on tdw or whatever, but I was downvoted a lot before the January 6th protest for arguing that against those who were in some sort of vision quest to convince us all that cops were the enemy. In fact, I had that argument with a few pedes very early this morning.
Protesting the election isn't going to undo what happened on the sixth. I love hopium too but it doesn't change the fact, protests are ineffective and are pretty much the tactics of a the weak, ineffective and out of power. As Americans, we are told time and time again about how great protests are and how valuable they are they are a form of free speech because THE LEFT is indoctinating us into their political style of mob tactics and mob violence.
In reality, protests are not useful when the people who are protesting have no power or clout.
If you want to make a difference, bring a lobby group to the capitol and put pressure on your state representative, state senator and governor to enact Voter ID Laws and election transparency acts.
Perfect is the enemy of good. Protesting the shutdown didn't end the shutdown, but it did work out for the gym owner guy. Imagine if everyone did protest with him. The shutdown would be effectively over.
Dr. Martin Luther King's ghost would like to have a word with you.
Despite what your history books teach, King had the majority of Americans backing him up. The only real group MLK JR was fighting was the Southern Democrats and they were a distinct minority at the time. MLK JR was smart because he built a coalition of Republicans, Catholics, independents, Jews and West Coast Hollywood and East Coast Wallstreet and their media. For one solid instance there, all the stars aligned for MLK JR. None of that would have been possible before television and none of those groups would have come together without MLK JR's leadership.
Protests work when they are a display of the powerful. They do not work when it is a futile gesture of those out of power. If you want MAGA to be a movement, what we should start doing is organizing in our own neighborhoods.
Ahem, cough, Trump, cough, cough.
It's like you're agreeing with me now.
Trump does have a majority of Americans according to my heart but it's more like 50% and some of our number are weak and will fold like a cheap suit. We also don't have the major institutions - such as big national media, the newspapers, the entertainment, the bureaucracy, the schools and the academia. We are greatly under representative in all those areas, including Wall Street.
We are the counter culture, not the culture. What we need to do going forward is to organize, start putting our own systems in place, pressuring our own leaders/elected officials and throwing cogs in the wheels of their workings.
The success of a counter culture is to mock and ridicule the ascendant culture. To disrupt their sacred cows and topple their symbols.
For instance, the NancyLoveDonaldTrump hashtag is a fantastic thing to do as the counter culture. Memes are great for counter cultures. However, protests will only work if we put an apparatus into place that's friendly to our protests. For instance, when the left was the counter culture, their "safe haven" was Berkeley and they enshrined it as the "Free Speech capital of the world" which is laughable now but back then, Berkeley's administration was in favor of the protests. What we need to do is find the spot that will favor us and that's where we need to go to make our points. yelling helplessly at the sky in all the state capitals, espcially when it's so obviously and antifa set up, isn't a good idea.
Although I'll give you this, I thought the 2nd Amendment protest in Virginia was a bad idea and it turned out gloriously. So maybe I should be a bit a more open minded. 'scuse me, I'm a conservative and we're used to saying "no, that won't work" right off the bat to everything.
No need to beg any pardons. That's what I like about this site. We can disagree and nobody has to be cancelled over it :)
Despite what your history books teach, King had the majority of Americans backing him up. The only real group MLK JR was fighting was the Southern Democrats and they were a distinct minority at the time. MLK JR was smart because he built a coalition of Republicans, Catholics, independents, Jews and West Coast Hollywood and East Coast Wallstreet and their media. For one solid instance there, all the stars aligned for MLK JR. None of that would have been possible before television and none of those groups would have come together without MLK JR's leadership.
Protests work when they are a display of the powerful. They do not work when it is a futile gesture of those out of power. If you want MAGA to be a movement, what we should start doing is organizing in our own neighborhoods.
Nice try faggot, enjoy getting wreck by National Guard.
Whatever comrade