Went like this.
Me: Too bad about the few at the capital who did bad things. Probably agitators.
Him: Yeah I kind of agree. But I just wish it never got to this point. The racist stuff Trump says doesn't help.
Me: Oh yeah... er I mean, well what racist stuff exactly?
Him: Well you know just all that stuff.
Me: No I can't think of anything... can you give me a specific example?
Him:....
Me: I need a specific example. I really want to know what he said because if he did that's terrible!
Him: well I can't think of anything right now but yeah...
Me: Can I tell you about Charlottesville?
Went like this.
Me: Too bad about the few at the capital who did bad things. Probably agitators.
Him: Yeah I kind of agree. But I just wish it never got to this point. The racist stuff Trump says doesn't help.
Me: Oh yeah... er I mean, well what racist stuff exactly?
Him: Well you know just all that stuff.
Me: No I can't think of anything... can you give me a specific example?
Him:....
Me: I need a specific example. I really want to know what he said because if he did that's terrible!
Him: well I can't think of anything right now but yeah...
Me: Can I tell you about Charlottesville?
For four years, social media convinced America we just need to read headlines to be informed. After that it was easy. The media convinced America Trump's racist and his followers are racist, then they convinced everyone COVID is the worst thing since EVER, then they convinced everyone George Floyd was a saint, then they convinced everyone Trump personaly killed hundreds of thousands of Americans with his COVID policy, then they convinced America there was no fraud (most secure election ever--high five!). Headlines, headlines, headlines.
It's an echo chamber. It's quicksand. There's no getting out of it once you're dug in.
Well, that's not entirely true. I got out. I was convinced Trump was a joke but then near the end of the summer I started to follow the news to prepare for the election and realized he's not a joke, he's just the butt of a terrible joke that stems from willful and blissful ignorance.
I have no doubt he got nearly 100 million votes. I live in a blue blue area and my buddy, a TWO TIME Obama voter and moderate Dem.... finally admitted to me he voted for TRUMP. He said the democratic party stands for nothing he stands for any more. The looting and rioting and defund the police and social justice bullshit pushed him over the edge.
He is a very mild mannered normal democrat middle class voter in a very blue area. There are MILLIONS JUST LIKE HIM.
The media lied to us by saying that moderates didn't like Trump. Moderates FLOCKED to him after watching cities burn all summer.
And there has been quite the lengthy war against family, bonding with family members, togetherness, structure etc. This has some weight, can't deny that.
human nature. the 2 commands Christ gives are 180° away from human nature.
love the Lord with all your heart soul mind and strength.
love your neighbor as yourself.
super hard
They're brainwashed to hate. It's easy to brainwash the ignorant low IQs that make up the entire democrat support base.
It's like a dream state where you don't remember how you got there lol
...Uh...SADDAM HUSSIEN???
Did you sign him up yet? Is he a Pede yet?
He is a strange dude. He was dropping red pills to me back in 2005 about 9-11 conspiracy. We all laughed at him. He's done a lot of investigative journalism. Then he got out of politics. He is not a democrat or a liberal. He's more of a free thinker. I'm starting to wake him up a bit. The psy ops are strong. They have even gotten to him. I was amazed he had been veiled. I have known him for 40 years. We didn't talk often the past 20 though.
Keep working on him. We need every convert we can get to build our new party.
9/11 is what red pilled me. When I was like, fucking 11. Which promptly started my anarchist stage of life. Lmao. Fucking hated Bush so much.
You were just ahead of us back then. I was never a liberal, but I never liked any president since Reagan, until Trump came along.
Maybe there are good guys hiding in our government, making sure nobody ever takes us over. And every once in a while, they recognize a guy like Trump or Reagan and help guide his way to clean house...
The first president I remember is Bush Jr, then Obama, both of which I hated. Then Trump came along. Didn't really love him, but that changed very quickly. Now I'm 28 (birthday was on the 5th and it was spent with my fellow pedes. Best birthday ever btw) and now I'm ready to fight and die for this orange cheeto puff and his family.
The thing I find the most effective and it isn't always easy is watching the news report about an event you attended, or something you are an expert in. There was no way back after Hillary emails. Noooooo way.
dude delete that and dont doxx yourself
Uhhh. Lots of people were born on January fifth. It's fine. Lol. You can't find my real name on the internet anyways. And I don't use social media. Aside from this ofc.
okay but you gave your birth year, and of course i don't knwo what other stuff you have out there. for example if you ever posted your general area or other identifier they can cross check. but you seem to know all that so nevermind lol
I watched it as I gussied up and got dressed to head into a military recruiter, I had a long standing appointment, coincidentally. I had a weigh-in (chunky monkey) and a little mini PT test before they'd let me sign on the line that very day.
Never been so motivated in my entire life as I was that morning.
Seriously just one of those things that happened with timing that I couldn't deny having a hint of construct, or beyond-mortal, omniscient planning behind it. I worked my literal ass off for months to get that appointment, and that's what was happening as I got dressed to prove my worth to a couple enlisted guys.
I passed, by the by.
That morning helped solidify religion in my heart and head as well, looking back.
(Sorry for dumping, I'm a little ... it was a tougher day at work today and I'm letting a little loose tonight.)
Man. Thanks for sharing that. I had wanted to join the military because my father was a cav scout. I wanted to follow in his foot steps. Plus I knew I'd be good at it. But I think I'm lucky that I was too fat to get in, tbh. I'm not the most mentally stable. I think it would have been good for me though. I still kind of wish I could join but I'm probably too old now. Lol.
Feel free to dump fren. If you need someone to unload on my inbox is always open. These are stressful times.
It's funny how things change eh?
They used people like Bush to start wars, and now they'll use liberals to start wars.
So much for the antiwar party. Lmao. I'll stand with whatever side opposes random conflict for no reason.
Can you enlighten me on your last mention of Charlottesville? My knowledge is so so on that topic. Thank you
I won't tell you what to think. Judge for yourself. Here are his exact words:
Reporter: "Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?"
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
Reporter: "George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same."
Trump: "George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down -- excuse me, are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him?"
Reporter: "I do love Thomas Jefferson."
Trump: "Okay, good. Are we going to take down the statue? Because he was a major slave owner. Now, are we going to take down his statue?
"So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.
"Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets, and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group."
Thank you
For years the MSM has lied and intentionally misquoted Trump from his Charlottesville press conference claiming he called white supremacists "fine people", when that's not what he said at all:
https://youtu.be/QwIU7iUfhow?t=1155
He in fact condemned the white supremacists, and was talking about the other normal citizens at the protest (fine people) that either wanted the statue removed or wanted to preserve it, for valid reasons. A fine example of the Fake News misquoting or twisting his words to make people hate him.
It is never a misquote when involving Journalists. They go through multiple edits before being aired to the public. It was intentional on their part.
Best for him to swallow the red-pill now because later it will be a suppository..
Same conversation that you have with anyone that isn't a conservative. Just bring up Nelson Mandela visit to the US, you'll either be called a liar, or convince them to actually start looking at his track record.
I feel sorry for you. Because of your username.
Yeah... Hard to have to create a new username. Been on the ledge about it.
Well, at least you have nice weather.
I finally came out as trump with one of my liberal friends last night. He said the things Trump says are so horrible. I asked, what's the worst thing he's ever said? He came up with Very fine people hoax All Mexicans are rapist hoax Mocking a disabled reporter hoax Drinking bleach hoax
Literally every thing he came up with was made up and manufactured by the media. I could see it breaking his brain as I pulled up clips in their full context.
"came out as Trump"
lol
easier to come out gay :)
(no homo)
Haha, I suppose "came out as a Trump supporter" would be more accurate but leaving it because it's funny. That's what Dave Rubin has said!
Nicely done! Lol.
The script to about 80% of Fleccas talks videos
I know and it was surreal while it was happening to me. I was thinking to myself that exactly!
I get the whole: "Give me an hour and I'll tell you how you're wrong."
I just quit, not worth my time.
Had a similar conversation with a liberal... TRUMP is a liar! / Um, what has he lied about? / Well I can't think of anything under pressure. / Admit it, you hate Trump because you were told to.
I work with new partners at my job everyday, they have no idea what theyre getting into when they shoot the shit with me lol ive redpilled dozens the last few years
They just repeat headlines hoping you don't ask them to elaborate. They are as predictable as children...
"Hey did you read that article?"
"Oh yeah totes, I'm like an expert now"
"What did you think about the good part?"
"Oh well yeah I mean, I read it but I kinda skimmed it... what did it say?"
Joe Biden was right when he said "if you repeat the lie enough, people will believe it."
Joe Biden didn't say --- well played.
what he left out was "and don't forget to tell so many lies that people don't have time to address them all".
that is not a moderate. a moderate would know the truth. moderates do not take a side until they investigate. that is a liberal.
But wait. Now I want to hear about the second half of that conversation.
Okay. I touched on Charlottesville and how the press selectively reported on his words. My buddy just didn't know because he's been out of the political loop really for years. He was a huge 9-11 conspiracy guy. Ahead of his time. We used to laugh at him and now I believe 9-11 was an inside job 100% for sure. After what we have seen now I have no doubt. So he is open minded enough to talk to. He never freaks out like a TDS person. So I reminded him how he used to be back then during 9-11.
I said this: "You know, it's not even about Trump or Biden... it's about America. It's about our enemies who want to destroy our country. They can't do it through military so they have to divide the people to hate one another. Look now, our country is fractured because of the lack of confidence in the election Whether you think it was stolen or not does not matter. The enemy mission is about to be accomplished and it doesn't matter if Trump or Biden is in.
Heck, you know and I know we have been getting ROBBED by our politicians for decades. Did you SEE what's in the COVID bill? (he had). Fuck if people are storming the capital it should be over that alone!!!
He chuckled because he could not disagree.
Well put. I too always use the argument that politicians have been ripping us off for decades. Everyone agrees to that even though the left prefers to forget about that. The covid relief bill is unarguably the best proof of just that.
I got a Pelosi meme from our super gay super liberal besties yesterday.
It was le spicy.
Had literally the exact same conversation with a family member the other day.
It's crazy. It's like half the country is sleepwalking and it's our job to try and wake them up before it's too late...
Ask questions.
Be friendly.
Be understanding.
Ask questions.
Show the truth.
Let the person realize the truth on his own.
Ask questions.
Remember these lines when talking with a person like this. Don't be pushy.
Not you, just in general. You did a FANTASTIC job. More people should be like you
smooth.
I read the title as “moderator” and was highly concerned. We’re good mods, love you peoples.....
Yep, I had a convo kinda like that. But this fucker had TDS and a heavy dose of it so I just didn't waste my breath.
My guy is able to be converted. He used to drop red pills on 9-11 but got sick of politics and just enjoyed life on the farm for many years lol.
Yeah, I'd say it's easy to flip a moderate. Sure I was and still am one myself. The problem is the TDS. That's the lefts special weapon.
Yep. Every time. And they purposefully ignore when you say 'well that was from an anonymous source, it proves nothing' like they enjoy you wasting your breath on their shitty arguments.
Charlottesville?
Can you educate me?
You know, how the news selectively reported what he said about "good people on both sides" but didn't show you the whole clip? Or are you actually not aware of what they did? Like with the CNN Goldfish feeding video in Japan where they did the same thing to make him appear like a buffoon. He's not.
I have heard of the good people on both side quote but really not aware.
I can find out now with the lead you gave me.
Yeah I know about the goldfish thing.
Thanks
I'll save you the trouble:
Trump: "Okay, good. Are we going to take down the statue? Because he was a major slave owner. [TALKING ABOUT THOMAS JEFFERSON] Now, are we going to take down his statue?
"So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.
"Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets, and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group."