Went like this.
Me: Too bad about the few at the capital who did bad things. Probably agitators.
Him: Yeah I kind of agree. But I just wish it never got to this point. The racist stuff Trump says doesn't help.
Me: Oh yeah... er I mean, well what racist stuff exactly?
Him: Well you know just all that stuff.
Me: No I can't think of anything... can you give me a specific example?
Him:....
Me: I need a specific example. I really want to know what he said because if he did that's terrible!
Him: well I can't think of anything right now but yeah...
Me: Can I tell you about Charlottesville?
Well put. I too always use the argument that politicians have been ripping us off for decades. Everyone agrees to that even though the left prefers to forget about that. The covid relief bill is unarguably the best proof of just that.