So star link, rockets flying up and down, best performing vehicles (ignoring how electricity is produced, battery, and recyling. I know that part is shit), all don't exist? Wouldn't a ponzi typically offer borderline no product? Didn't banks refuse to fund him? Thus deposits?

Profit? Do any big companies do that anymore? It's horse shit but pepe hands

I didn't mean to say all he did was take some gov handouts and boom, i admit i over simplified but i'm used to doing that for everyone to digest anything.

I don't disagree it's all horse shit in some capacity. But it's all horse shit we enabled for decades and decades of slippery slope and being placated. We as in we the people. Past, present, future.

I just find him to be a lot more grey than black or white. I feel he is independent and leans the "right" way on things.

I think we are genuinely in more agreeance than even i still think we are.