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Magamom 195 points ago +203 / -8

I cant either. Nobody in the republican party is worthy right now. Imagine pence-haley in 2024? Fuck no.

If theres a new patriot party, id totally help and volunteer tp grow it.

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Jonny 127 points ago +127 / -0

Voting needs to be fixed or else it won't matter what party you're in.

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South_Florida_Guy 85 points ago +85 / -0

It's already "fixed", that's why we are where we are!

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Jonny 47 points ago +47 / -0

Touche, pede. Touche.

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deleteDems 37 points ago +37 / -0

Voter ID and no electronics allowed. All votes must be received and counted on election day.

But these common sense rules will never become real.

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englishpleb 3 points ago +3 / -0

Tea party with all counting machines, counting process live-streamed.

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Artek 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yes. Nothing of worth is ever won the easy way. We let them shame us into silence once, and it can never happen again. Conviction is contagious.

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Ladybug87 8 points ago +8 / -0

There needs to be consequences for those who cheated, until that happens they won't fear doing it again. It is mind blowing for me how thousands of illegals voted in this election and nothing happened to them, no deportation, no fines, no prison time.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 6 points ago +6 / -0

If it wasn't corrected this time, with the completely blatant fraud being committed, it will never be corrected. Elections and political parties are irrelevant if Biden is installed. This is a coup against our Republic and our Constitution.

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Chesteraarthur2 51 points ago +53 / -2

Ron DeSantis

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Riggers-gonna-rig 29 points ago +31 / -2

No matter what you will only fracture conservatives and make the left more dominant. Assuming we stand any shot at a fair election ever again (which I doubt), pushing America First people through the ranks of the Republican party is the best chance we ever have of a free country.

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imdplum 36 points ago +36 / -0

We must always remember that the States control the elections and the election laws. So we need to get MAGA in the STATE legislatures and get them to clean up the election laws/procedures. AND - more importantly -- build into those laws automatic fail-safes if the laws are overridden by crazy SOS or Governors, or if fraud is discovered. Right now, we have laws/regulations/standards, but NO defined recourse, penalty or remedy if they're violated. That's what needs to be addressed, and quickly.

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Djinnofsorrow 8 points ago +8 / -0

And state leadership with enough backbone to do more than mutter secession.

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Paul_Revere 8 points ago +9 / -1

That's what needs to be addressed, and quickly.

Yes, it does. But I'm not holding my breath. For that to happen, we need nationwide organization and leadership. And our leadership just conceded.

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standonthewall 4 points ago +5 / -1

Is there anything stopping you from volunteering to count ballots in your jurisdiction? That's the main way they "won", running the counting.

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Paul_Revere 7 points ago +7 / -0

I hate to tell you this, but I counted ballots in the November election.

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ERguy87 2 points ago +2 / -0

My brain started hurting reading the last link. Ignorance is bliss

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Paul_Revere 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, that's what I used to tell the doomers on here, too.

If I'm wrong about DJT's remarks today, I will gladly admit it and dance in the streets.

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theultimatesean 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yep. Florida and Ohio did something right. Pennsylvania Michigan Wisconsin and fucking Georgia need to do the same.

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teen_burger_combo 1 point ago +1 / -0

YES! Finally someone gets it. Federal government may be the goal, but local elections are the most relevant to our lives.

Municipal then State then Federal

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bluto36 11 points ago +12 / -1

the GOP will not allow that to happen again. they will go the route of the DNC and have "special electors" or some other shit.

GOP has all shown us who they are. i will not be part of the controlled opposition party. i will not be part of the Romney/Sasse/McConnell GOP

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Stable 3 points ago +3 / -0

The solution isn't to walk away from the party, it's to force them to walk away. Flipping the tables is the strategy of a coward.

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Nationalist2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is a joke right? Explain how can the left become more dominant. Go ahead, I'll wait.

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GlacialSpeed 18 points ago +18 / -0

Never voting Republican or Democrat.

There will be a new party or I'll write in Alex Jones for every election going forward.

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November3rd 3 points ago +4 / -1

Alex Jones 4 Eva

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mrtumnis 2 points ago +3 / -1

they will take that ballot and adjudicate it to pelosi dont give em the chance

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muslimporn 0 points ago +2 / -2

I had a dream last night. A deity floated down to announce to me that I have one vote. Two fists. A hundred rounds of ammunition.

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Friend_of_John_Galt 121 points ago +123 / -2

Shut up and go after election integrity NOW.

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Doth 19 points ago +19 / -0

Yes, let's get the legislators to make laws that prevent the schemes that keep getting them re-elected. They should be willing to do that!

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Friend_of_John_Galt 5 points ago +5 / -0

Local governments aren't as equipped to ignore a majority, and higher levels of government will have a harder time corralling them all if they're all getting phone calls and emails. They made a dent now but were too late.

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IronSpector 5 points ago +5 / -0

Fingerprints would make it so that the voter is no longer secret which contravenes what our system provides

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IronSpector 5 points ago +5 / -0

Fingerprints could be used to check in people but they can't go on the ballot. A fair anonymous vote simply means ensuring chain of custody isn't broken and making the whole process transparent.

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IronSpector 4 points ago +4 / -0

I absolutely agree and understand, the person who counts should not be a person but persons. I certainly urge every patriot to take back the process and make it transparent. Our reaction now should be voting reform, and preventing anything like this happening. Pushing back on MSM and forcing accountability by differentiating between press and opinion and holding press accountable for lies in the form of libel and slander.

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Chosen_1_1162 3 points ago +3 / -0

Do you want fair elections or secret votes? Pro tip: as long as leftists have any influence, you can only pick one.

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IronSpector 1 point ago +2 / -1

Secret vote hands down. If the dems had a list of everyone who voted Trump they would be going after them already.

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Friend_of_John_Galt 1 point ago +1 / -0

States aren't even being held to their own laws. That is an excellent start. Contact your conservative leadership or network with conservatives to organize, or both if possible.

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BigRedSuppository 2 points ago +6 / -4

I'm not giving my finger print to the feds just to vote, that is retarded

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Dialectic 7 points ago +7 / -0

Bro they have way more than that

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bluto36 3 points ago +3 / -0

own a gun have a drivers license been arrested veteran coach kids

if any of these apply to you they have it

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standonthewall 1 point ago +1 / -0

They know what websites you visit and everywhere you go if you bring your phone or a newer vehicle. They probably know your genetic makeup if someone related to you did 23 and me. So you can go fight or worry they might know too much. Your call.

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Wankerton 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes what did voting achieve in this election for us? It got a million people to hang out in front of the white house. We wouldn't have done that. That's the thing voting may not give us immediate results but it does put cracks in the foundation of the broken system. Is there things we need to do beside voting. absolutely! But taking ONE day out of your lives every 2 years is not an unreasonable request.

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leatherbottom 4 points ago +5 / -1

Tried that.

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MAGAlikethis 3 points ago +3 / -0

Those machines should be removed by force from election offices, if our system isn't going to do it.

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lordvon 2 points ago +2 / -0

exactly. i believe that either dem or repub that TRULY stuck to ideals and TRULY elected would be 1000X better than the corrupt shit we have now.

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Marble68 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, I'm sure anyone who cheated in an election is quick to vote for making cheating harder.

And that's the case now.

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Ghostbearstark_53 58 points ago +63 / -5

Because we showed up in record numbers and to give up like faggots isn't the fucking play

We keep pushing, keep dropping red pills, sign up as poll workers, etc.

The deck was always stacked against us, I dont give a shit

this train has no brakes

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Marble68 14 points ago +14 / -0

Sign up as a poll worker, go for it, and these cheaters will simply tell you all the slots are filled - like they did to the patriots who signed up.

And those that do get in, when they raise the flag to bring attention to something illegal, will be kicked out for being disruptive.

This is exactly what they did, this is exactly what no one except the Trump campaign objected to, so this is now the normal.

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Ghostbearstark_53 4 points ago +5 / -1

Okay so just give up? Yeah how American of us

I dont give a shit if I have to color my hair blue and switch genders, if we need covert-op then that's what it comes down to. But I'm tired of the defeatist bullshit attitude

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Ghostbearstark_53 8 points ago +8 / -0

I can walk and chew bubblegum. Ie I can advocate for fair elections while still voting for the party that aligns with my best interests in the meantime. I swear the defeatist shills are out in force

What's your master plan braniac?

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nasty_pelosi 3 points ago +4 / -1

And then what? Sounds like some wacko cult.

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ElbowDeepInIt 4 points ago +5 / -1

It may have no brakes; but we will see on the 20th if there is an end to the tracks.

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Chinese_spy2 4 points ago +4 / -0

We already did show up in record numbers. President Trump gained millions of votes compared to 2016. If election fraud is allowed to continue and the courts will deflect with "no standing" for fear of mobs, then we have to actually become a mob. Fear works.

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b00nis -2 points ago +1 / -3

8 days til you hit a fucking wall then. Your own fault for taking a train w/ no brakes.

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WalkFastGoHome 43 points ago +43 / -0

The tree of liberty will either wither and die or be completely refreshed.

Ashli was just the first to feed it.

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CaptainRumington 43 points ago +44 / -1

Anyone claiming 2022, or 2024, has no idea how Fraud works.

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DickweedDewine 37 points ago +40 / -3

I too, am swearing off politics, I voted for Trump, not a politician. The rest can get fucked. Remember, they don’t need our vote. Just to support them when they take office. :)

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Loiuzein 33 points ago +35 / -2

There's no

Fucking

Point

Our votes are not counted.

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affebonbons 29 points ago +30 / -1

not going to

if they can take this election, not be audited, and then the last president with any balls just steps down, then there is zero legal paths to winning an election.

honestly just trying to figure out which state to move to that won't be flooded by illegals soon

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14Kaner88 5 points ago +6 / -1

South Dakota

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affebonbons 5 points ago +5 / -0

Thanks pede; I've been hearing nothing but good things about South Dakota lately. I'll look into it 🇺🇲

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TakenusernameA 28 points ago +29 / -1

THE FOURTH BOX

STOP BEING DEMORALIZED

PREPARE

DO NOT CEDE YOUR FREEDOMS WILLINGLY

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Paul_Revere 7 points ago +7 / -0

I'm willing, as soon as we get organized and our national leader steps up

Oh, wait...

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Dereliction 6 points ago +6 / -0

Paul Revere didn't wait for a national leader to step up. But he was part of an org. Sad that people have forgotten.

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DFW1 26 points ago +27 / -1

I agree completely. The election was stolen, everyone knows it was stolen, everyone has seen proof it was stolen and yet the GOP just says, yup, we got beat. No, the people got beat and we're tired of it.

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MAGAlikethis 11 points ago +11 / -0

Plus they're compromised. Many have ties to China. Our representatives are not a representation of We the People.

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4moreyears 24 points ago +27 / -3

They're just gonna rig it again...

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Veritasisboss2 1 point ago +2 / -1

Then do something about it fren. Work the polls. Run in your district. Start a local community of like minded people. If you can’t, support those doing so. Even words of encouragement count. Start small and win any little victories you can. It’s understandable to have no faith in this system. Don’t let voting be your only method of fight back, but don’t disregard it completely, because if by some fucking miracle the tide starts to turn, people will need your vote.

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CaptainButthurt 23 points ago +24 / -1

Secession seems to be the only legitimate way forward. To pressure states that recognize our constitutional distress.

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Cross_The_Rubicon 16 points ago +16 / -0

This x1000, Texas is already in the beginning stages.

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HunterBidensPC 21 points ago +22 / -1

Somebody hack dominion in 2024 and put a trillion votes for trump. Regardless of whether or not he’s running. Then he will be president! Anyone who questions it is a threat to democracy!

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MaouRem 11 points ago +11 / -0

Except that the double standard has been shown, it's only legal when the left does it

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giggitybooped 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yup, anyone not them that hacks it will spend life in prison.

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day221 6 points ago +6 / -0

I thought they had someone hacking Georgia in the runoffs. That guy said they got "in". I swear if it was just a larper then fuck him and fuck all the people at the top that enabled him. If he wasn't larping, then now would probably be a good time to share that information...

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DemsHaveNoHomeHere 14 points ago +15 / -1

Not until traitors are held accountable.

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Cyrus 13 points ago +14 / -1

Elections have forever changed.

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Tom94 12 points ago +12 / -0

i dont think anyone has faith in their election if america can just be subverted like this.

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TheNightJanitor 11 points ago +11 / -0

Um

Pedes.

they taught us how to rig

What are we waiting for

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leo-bulero 11 points ago +11 / -0

Look at Mexico. Their current president, who is one of the most prominent international leaders to speak out against the election fraud we all just witnessed, first ran for president of Mexico in 2006. He won but had the vote rigged against him so officially he lost. But the people who voted for him stayed active and managed to fix the fraudulent electoral system enough for him to run again and officially win this time. It’s possible. It’s happened before.

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wartooth6 8 points ago +8 / -0

For real, if Mexico can do it, then AMERICANS CAN TOO. COWBOY THE FUCK UP.

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fdagasfd 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's literally never over. Like: until they kill every man, woman, and child who knows the truth it is never over.

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MakeFreedomRing 10 points ago +27 / -17

Not voting means leaving them in power. House races in 2 years have got to be won. WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR PEOPLE COUNTING AND TAKING IN BALLOTS

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Pookers78 48 points ago +55 / -7

Its rigged bro whats the fucking point lol

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HeavyVetting 9 points ago +9 / -0

What matters is who counts the ballots. We need to make ourselves part of that process.

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Dereliction 6 points ago +6 / -0

Then we rig them. No, I'm not joking. If that's the battlefield, let's fight.

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Mintap 2 points ago +5 / -3

Making them commit greater and greater fraud, wakes up more and more people.

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Marble68 4 points ago +4 / -0

don't know if I'll vote, but I can promise this - I will make an effort to ask any politician running what they've done to prosecute people who committed voter or election fraud, even if not determinative.

If they're response doesn't work - I'll simply tell them their answer is disqualifying, because little fraud begets big fraud.

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Mintap 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes, good point. All Republicans that want to keep their jobs need to get a full scale investigation and fix of election fraud.

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Marble68 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly.

If they don't spend the next two years trying to get election integrity on the table and pushing for forensic analysis of 2020 - they're disqualified from holding office and I wouldn't consider voting for them.

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armedprincess23 3 points ago +3 / -0

They just stole 6 million votes to make a pedo President. Do you really think we’re not awake? Voting is pointless now, America as we knew it is gone. The only way we get it back is if the ruling class (which most are over 70) goes. That’s it.

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Allmight 3 points ago +3 / -0

Fraud you will never hear about again.

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br1337 32 points ago +34 / -2

Does it even matter with the Uniparty? They all vote the same.

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gloriouschairmanpao 6 points ago +6 / -0

It does not matter even 1%.

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FelixtheMan 3 points ago +3 / -0

Mittens or McCain or Obama. All the same shitstain on different colored undies

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winslow1132 9 points ago +10 / -1

This is the way. Get involved in local/state level elections.

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Txiribiton 6 points ago +7 / -1

They already are in power.

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trumpistheman2020 10 points ago +14 / -4

Yeah screw that. Nothing matters anymore.

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Veritasisboss2 2 points ago +2 / -0

Everything still matters. What great thing comes without adversity? Is this the outcome we wanted? No. Is it looking bleak as fuck? Hell yes it is. But that should not be the reason to set aside your American exceptionalism. We overcome odds, not succumb to them, or we go down swinging.

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MakeAmericaLegendary 8 points ago +8 / -0

Push state legislatures in all of the swing states to implement voting reform a la Florida. Then we primary non-MAGA Republicans in 2022, halting whatever damage Biden is doing to this country. Meanwhile, President Trump builds a media empire and acquires more allies than ever before (while at the same time identifying those who stabbed us in the back). We'll end up stronger in 2024 than we would have been in 2020.

That's President Trump's plan, at least. And it's much better than sulking.

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Paul_Revere 2 points ago +2 / -0

Meanwhile, President Trump builds a media empire and acquires more allies than ever before (while at the same time identifying those who stabbed us in the back).

Is that his plan? I haven't heard any very explicit announcements along those lines.

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MakeAmericaLegendary 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah; I'll cite Robert Barnes for that, a lawyer who is personally acquainted with his plan. He'll tell you that the President isn't discouraged.

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armedprincess23 1 point ago +1 / -0

And how do I do that in PA? Huh? They know it’s bad, they sent a fucking letter saying that it was not to be certified. Now what? You think the commie governor Wolf is going to pass and sign election reform in PA? You think there is a shred of a chance that a Republican or a Patriot can be elected governor here? With Philly and Allegheny county? Please. Wake up!

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MakeAmericaLegendary 3 points ago +3 / -0

Start emailing PA and asking them to pass immediate reform while the coals are hot. You call me asleep, but I'm the one moving to actually do something about this.

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MakeAmericaLegendary 1 point ago +1 / -0

Start emailing PA and asking them to pass immediate reform while the coals are hot. You call me asleep, but I'm the one moving to actually do something about this.

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Chosen_1_1162 8 points ago +8 / -0

I’ll always vote, but I now know that it will be a symbolic gesture (and probably has been for some time)

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TheWinningNeverStops 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yup. It will take some time for people here to come to terms with that fact.

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hothousecreekguy 8 points ago +9 / -1

Me either.....i can say with confidence that i will never vote in a federal election again. If we couldn't get it fixed this time no way in hell we are gonna get if fixed in the future. We had the Presidency and Senate on our side and couldn't do it, now it is ALL Blue so no way integrity will be restored. Bye Bye America...sorry to see you fall.

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wartooth6 8 points ago +9 / -1

Vote with your wallets

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redditresearches 2 points ago +2 / -0

Agree!!

  • Don't click on YouTube Ads
  • Don't click on Google Ads
  • Don't provide any content to Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter
  • Unfollow everyone on Twitter, Instagram
  • Don't use WhatsApp (use Signal, same but better because not owned by FB and doesn't sell your data)
  • Don't buy FANG stocks, sell them if you have any

They want to deplatform US? We will deplatform THEM!

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wartooth6 2 points ago +2 / -0

Conservatives have money too! Far more than they realize!

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ValkyrieHoneybadger 7 points ago +7 / -0

They can never stop stealing elections after they start.

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Vapor12 7 points ago +7 / -0

They are stealing this election right infront of our eyes, and apart from GEOTUS and some loyal people, nothing is beeing done about it. its so fuckign frustrating and how can this happen to the greatest country on earth??

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Wrexxis780 7 points ago +7 / -0

The GOP died

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Cross_The_Rubicon 7 points ago +7 / -0

It committed suicide

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theultimatesean 2 points ago +2 / -0

This much is true.

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MaouRem 7 points ago +9 / -2

Could replace Trump with someone in 2024 that straight up says he plans to win but not through votes, don't know how successful it would be, but better than nothing

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MakeAmericaLegendary -1 points ago +3 / -4

Why someone else? President Trump will win in 2024.

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MaouRem 2 points ago +4 / -2

Because if Trump can't get the job after winning what was the point in trying at all? When one fails it's time for another with a new strat

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MakeAmericaLegendary 3 points ago +3 / -0

Because he's still our strongest player.

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MaouRem 3 points ago +3 / -0

Depends on the game being played, let's try at least looking to see if someone who stayed pro Trump all cycle / looks like a viable candidate has an alternative plan that could actually work, because it sure doesn't look like Trump is willing to do what needs to be done to drain the swamp, voting won't help anymore

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mountnblade 6 points ago +6 / -0

Votingfags are so stupid. JuSt VoTe HaRdEr

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TheIntersect 3 points ago +3 / -0

I can’t upvote this enough. If you participate in an openly rigged election, you condone it. If they’ll cook up 81 million votes for a guy who lost everybprimary he was ever in, including the last one, there’s no limit to how far they’ll go. This is another situation that you cannot vote your way out of.

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4n0n1776 7 points ago +8 / -1

It's meaningless anyway since our votes aren't counted

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TheWinningNeverStops 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly. "durr let's start a new party!" It's like they don't realize the other side will still cheat and cover it up. lol

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reee777 1 point ago +1 / -0

Consider Ron Desantis

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40-More-Years 4 points ago +5 / -1

You try to find someone that would stand up to a stolen election, vote for them, hope they don’t pussy out, rinse and repeat.

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armedprincess23 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ok how are they going to campaign? No social media, no banks will let them keep the money there. They are not allowed to sell merch, do you see? We are at the end of the line. We have to accept the fact that we couldn’t keep the republic. And the person who had the power to save it just left us all with a fucking sword over our heads. I can’t worry about voting anymore.

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40-More-Years 2 points ago +2 / -0

You can stop worrying, I’m gonna keep working to make america great again.

I don’t need a figurehead to campaign for good people, make my voice heard, and keep voting so that when someone with balls is in charge we can show that it’s rigged.

They want you to stop voting, that way they can do the audits and show they won legit. You’re playing into their long game, I won’t do that.

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ForkHandles 4 points ago +4 / -0

Can't think of a funny nor serious response to OP. I think he just broke me.

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Dapper_Sam 4 points ago +4 / -0

There’s no point anymore, they got caught like never before, and still got away with it.

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Hiw-lir-sirith 3 points ago +3 / -0

The options that remain for preserving liberty are few. Somehow enforcing election laws on the state level, now that we know what we are up against, is a long shot but still possible. Passing constitutional amendments by convention of states is the most plausible in my opinion. After that the options are more grim.

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RuralRedPill 3 points ago +3 / -0

Republican Legislatures need to reform their voting before the next election. Any state with Dominion needs to toss it out, use FL as the model. Republican states also need to pass an electoral system based on counties instead of the popular vote before liberals flip anymore states. It's a travesty for Red States with Democrats packed into blue cities dictating the rest of their state policy.

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Siteless_Vagrant 3 points ago +3 / -0

What would be the point? The dems just showed the entire world they can rig an election right in our faces with the most outlandish results possible, and we won't do shit about it. We just lost our guns, our rights, our culture, our country, and we stood by and let 'em.

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TeflonD0N 3 points ago +3 / -0

we get involved and dont allow these mother fuckers to kick us out of the process, we learn to code we make our bodies and minds savage. We grow

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Brookes 3 points ago +3 / -0

I kind of have to agree, I'm so demoralized by this cheating. The fact they totally got away with it just proves that they have a proven method that works. What makes me think this won't just become business as usual for them?

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goodatlife123 3 points ago +4 / -1

You don't

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surfdad64 3 points ago +3 / -0

Vote independent ans screw both parties, 80 million of us would change many elections in the future We should write in Elon Musk on every ballot

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Lord_Kek 2 points ago +2 / -0
  1. We all vote Democrat to silence the establishment turds delaying our demise
  2. The country becomes an unbearable shithole
  3. ??????
  4. PROFIT
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PropagandaWizard1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

The illusion of choice is the ultimate method of control. Be free and refuse to play this rigged game.

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kidfromtheplayground 2 points ago +2 / -0

You cant vote again, whats the use? They have Dominion and they use every illegal way they can to manufacture ballots and harvest ballots, we dont cheat so we wont ever have anything but Socialism from here on out.