There needs to be consequences for those who cheated, until that happens they won't fear doing it again. It is mind blowing for me how thousands of illegals voted in this election and nothing happened to them, no deportation, no fines, no prison time.
If it wasn't corrected this time, with the completely blatant fraud being committed, it will never be corrected. Elections and political parties are irrelevant if Biden is installed. This is a coup against our Republic and our Constitution.
No matter what you will only fracture conservatives and make the left more dominant. Assuming we stand any shot at a fair election ever again (which I doubt), pushing America First people through the ranks of the Republican party is the best chance we ever have of a free country.
We must always remember that the States control the elections and the election laws. So we need to get MAGA in the STATE legislatures and get them to clean up the election laws/procedures. AND - more importantly -- build into those laws automatic fail-safes if the laws are overridden by crazy SOS or Governors, or if fraud is discovered. Right now, we have laws/regulations/standards, but NO defined recourse, penalty or remedy if they're violated. That's what needs to be addressed, and quickly.
Local governments aren't as equipped to ignore a majority, and higher levels of government will have a harder time corralling them all if they're all getting phone calls and emails. They made a dent now but were too late.
Fingerprints could be used to check in people but they can't go on the ballot. A fair anonymous vote simply means ensuring chain of custody isn't broken and making the whole process transparent.
I absolutely agree and understand, the person who counts should not be a person but persons. I certainly urge every patriot to take back the process and make it transparent. Our reaction now should be voting reform, and preventing anything like this happening. Pushing back on MSM and forcing accountability by differentiating between press and opinion and holding press accountable for lies in the form of libel and slander.
States aren't even being held to their own laws. That is an excellent start. Contact your conservative leadership or network with conservatives to organize, or both if possible.
They know what websites you visit and everywhere you go if you bring your phone or a newer vehicle. They probably know your genetic makeup if someone related to you did 23 and me. So you can go fight or worry they might know too much. Your call.
Yes what did voting achieve in this election for us? It got a million people to hang out in front of the white house. We wouldn't have done that. That's the thing voting may not give us immediate results but it does put cracks in the foundation of the broken system. Is there things we need to do beside voting. absolutely! But taking ONE day out of your lives every 2 years is not an unreasonable request.
I dont give a shit if I have to color my hair blue and switch genders, if we need covert-op then that's what it comes down to. But I'm tired of the defeatist bullshit attitude
I can walk and chew bubblegum. Ie I can advocate for fair elections while still voting for the party that aligns with my best interests in the meantime. I swear the defeatist shills are out in force
We already did show up in record numbers. President Trump gained millions of votes compared to 2016. If election fraud is allowed to continue and the courts will deflect with "no standing" for fear of mobs, then we have to actually become a mob. Fear works.
I too, am swearing off politics, I voted for Trump, not a politician. The rest can get fucked. Remember, they don’t need our vote. Just to support them when they take office. :)
if they can take this election, not be audited, and then the last president with any balls just steps down, then there is zero legal paths to winning an election.
honestly just trying to figure out which state to move to that won't be flooded by illegals soon
I agree completely. The election was stolen, everyone knows it was stolen, everyone has seen proof it was stolen and yet the GOP just says, yup, we got beat.
No, the people got beat and we're tired of it.
Then do something about it fren. Work the polls. Run in your district. Start a local community of like minded people. If you can’t, support those doing so. Even words of encouragement count. Start small and win any little victories you can. It’s understandable to have no faith in this system. Don’t let voting be your only method of fight back, but don’t disregard it completely, because if by some fucking miracle the tide starts to turn, people will need your vote.
Somebody hack dominion in 2024 and put a trillion votes for trump. Regardless of whether or not he’s running. Then he will be president! Anyone who questions it is a threat to democracy!
I thought they had someone hacking Georgia in the runoffs. That guy said they got "in". I swear if it was just a larper then fuck him and fuck all the people at the top that enabled him. If he wasn't larping, then now would probably be a good time to share that information...
Look at Mexico. Their current president, who is one of the most prominent international leaders to speak out against the election fraud we all just witnessed, first ran for president of Mexico in 2006. He won but had the vote rigged against him so officially he lost. But the people who voted for him stayed active and managed to fix the fraudulent electoral system enough for him to run again and officially win this time. It’s possible. It’s happened before.
don't know if I'll vote, but I can promise this - I will make an effort to ask any politician running what they've done to prosecute people who committed voter or election fraud, even if not determinative.
If they're response doesn't work - I'll simply tell them their answer is disqualifying, because little fraud begets big fraud.
If they don't spend the next two years trying to get election integrity on the table and pushing for forensic analysis of 2020 - they're disqualified from holding office and I wouldn't consider voting for them.
They just stole 6 million votes to make a pedo President. Do you really think we’re not awake? Voting is pointless now, America as we knew it is gone. The only way we get it back is if the ruling class (which most are over 70) goes. That’s it.
Everything still matters. What great thing comes without adversity? Is this the outcome we wanted? No. Is it looking bleak as fuck? Hell yes it is. But that should not be the reason to set aside your American exceptionalism. We overcome odds, not succumb to them, or we go down swinging.
Push state legislatures in all of the swing states to implement voting reform a la Florida. Then we primary non-MAGA Republicans in 2022, halting whatever damage Biden is doing to this country. Meanwhile, President Trump builds a media empire and acquires more allies than ever before (while at the same time identifying those who stabbed us in the back). We'll end up stronger in 2024 than we would have been in 2020.
That's President Trump's plan, at least. And it's much better than sulking.
Meanwhile, President Trump builds a media empire and acquires more allies than ever before (while at the same time identifying those who stabbed us in the back).
Is that his plan? I haven't heard any very explicit announcements along those lines.
And how do I do that in PA? Huh? They know it’s bad, they sent a fucking letter saying that it was not to be certified. Now what? You think the commie governor Wolf is going to pass and sign election reform in PA? You think there is a shred of a chance that a Republican or a Patriot can be elected governor here? With Philly and Allegheny county? Please. Wake up!
Start emailing PA and asking them to pass immediate reform while the coals are hot. You call me asleep, but I'm the one moving to actually do something about this.
Start emailing PA and asking them to pass immediate reform while the coals are hot. You call me asleep, but I'm the one moving to actually do something about this.
Me either.....i can say with confidence that i will never vote in a federal election again. If we couldn't get it fixed this time no way in hell we are gonna get if fixed in the future. We had the Presidency and Senate on our side and couldn't do it, now it is ALL Blue so no way integrity will be restored. Bye Bye America...sorry to see you fall.
They are stealing this election right infront of our eyes, and apart from GEOTUS and some loyal people, nothing is beeing done about it. its so fuckign frustrating and how can this happen to the greatest country on earth??
Could replace Trump with someone in 2024 that straight up says he plans to win but not through votes, don't know how successful it would be, but better than nothing
Depends on the game being played, let's try at least looking to see if someone who stayed pro Trump all cycle / looks like a viable candidate has an alternative plan that could actually work, because it sure doesn't look like Trump is willing to do what needs to be done to drain the swamp, voting won't help anymore
I can’t upvote this enough. If you participate in an openly rigged election, you condone it. If they’ll cook up 81 million votes for a guy who lost everybprimary he was ever in, including the last one, there’s no limit to how far they’ll go. This is another situation that you cannot vote your way out of.
Ok how are they going to campaign? No social media, no banks will let them keep the money there. They are not allowed to sell merch, do you see? We are at the end of the line. We have to accept the fact that we couldn’t keep the republic. And the person who had the power to save it just left us all with a fucking sword over our heads. I can’t worry about voting anymore.
You can stop worrying, I’m gonna keep working to make america great again.
I don’t need a figurehead to campaign for good people, make my voice heard, and keep voting so that when someone with balls is in charge we can show that it’s rigged.
They want you to stop voting, that way they can do the audits and show they won legit. You’re playing into their long game, I won’t do that.
The options that remain for preserving liberty are few. Somehow enforcing election laws on the state level, now that we know what we are up against, is a long shot but still possible. Passing constitutional amendments by convention of states is the most plausible in my opinion. After that the options are more grim.
Republican Legislatures need to reform their voting before the next election. Any state with Dominion needs to toss it out, use FL as the model. Republican states also need to pass an electoral system based on counties instead of the popular vote before liberals flip anymore states. It's a travesty for Red States with Democrats packed into blue cities dictating the rest of their state policy.
What would be the point? The dems just showed the entire world they can rig an election right in our faces with the most outlandish results possible, and we won't do shit about it. We just lost our guns, our rights, our culture, our country, and we stood by and let 'em.
I kind of have to agree, I'm so demoralized by this cheating. The fact they totally got away with it just proves that they have a proven method that works. What makes me think this won't just become business as usual for them?
You cant vote again, whats the use? They have Dominion and they use every illegal way they can to manufacture ballots and harvest ballots, we dont cheat so we wont ever have anything but Socialism from here on out.
I cant either. Nobody in the republican party is worthy right now. Imagine pence-haley in 2024? Fuck no.
If theres a new patriot party, id totally help and volunteer tp grow it.
Voting needs to be fixed or else it won't matter what party you're in.
It's already "fixed", that's why we are where we are!
Touche, pede. Touche.
Voter ID and no electronics allowed. All votes must be received and counted on election day.
But these common sense rules will never become real.
Tea party with all counting machines, counting process live-streamed.
Yes. Nothing of worth is ever won the easy way. We let them shame us into silence once, and it can never happen again. Conviction is contagious.
There needs to be consequences for those who cheated, until that happens they won't fear doing it again. It is mind blowing for me how thousands of illegals voted in this election and nothing happened to them, no deportation, no fines, no prison time.
If it wasn't corrected this time, with the completely blatant fraud being committed, it will never be corrected. Elections and political parties are irrelevant if Biden is installed. This is a coup against our Republic and our Constitution.
Ron DeSantis
No matter what you will only fracture conservatives and make the left more dominant. Assuming we stand any shot at a fair election ever again (which I doubt), pushing America First people through the ranks of the Republican party is the best chance we ever have of a free country.
We must always remember that the States control the elections and the election laws. So we need to get MAGA in the STATE legislatures and get them to clean up the election laws/procedures. AND - more importantly -- build into those laws automatic fail-safes if the laws are overridden by crazy SOS or Governors, or if fraud is discovered. Right now, we have laws/regulations/standards, but NO defined recourse, penalty or remedy if they're violated. That's what needs to be addressed, and quickly.
And state leadership with enough backbone to do more than mutter secession.
Yes, it does. But I'm not holding my breath. For that to happen, we need nationwide organization and leadership. And our leadership just conceded.
Is there anything stopping you from volunteering to count ballots in your jurisdiction? That's the main way they "won", running the counting.
I hate to tell you this, but I counted ballots in the November election.
Well I guess just give up, despair and die then there's nothing else you can do!
https://wmbriggs.com/post/33954/
http://www.dethguild.com/rants/Amplify_and_Destroy.php
https://accordingtohoyt.com/2021/01/12/line-dancing-how-to-be-a-scary-moron/
My brain started hurting reading the last link. Ignorance is bliss
Yeah, that's what I used to tell the doomers on here, too.
If I'm wrong about DJT's remarks today, I will gladly admit it and dance in the streets.
Yep. Florida and Ohio did something right. Pennsylvania Michigan Wisconsin and fucking Georgia need to do the same.
YES! Finally someone gets it. Federal government may be the goal, but local elections are the most relevant to our lives.
Municipal then State then Federal
the GOP will not allow that to happen again. they will go the route of the DNC and have "special electors" or some other shit.
GOP has all shown us who they are. i will not be part of the controlled opposition party. i will not be part of the Romney/Sasse/McConnell GOP
The solution isn't to walk away from the party, it's to force them to walk away. Flipping the tables is the strategy of a coward.
This is a joke right? Explain how can the left become more dominant. Go ahead, I'll wait.
Never voting Republican or Democrat.
There will be a new party or I'll write in Alex Jones for every election going forward.
Alex Jones 4 Eva
they will take that ballot and adjudicate it to pelosi dont give em the chance
I had a dream last night. A deity floated down to announce to me that I have one vote. Two fists. A hundred rounds of ammunition.
Shut up and go after election integrity NOW.
Yes, let's get the legislators to make laws that prevent the schemes that keep getting them re-elected. They should be willing to do that!
Local governments aren't as equipped to ignore a majority, and higher levels of government will have a harder time corralling them all if they're all getting phone calls and emails. They made a dent now but were too late.
Fingerprints would make it so that the voter is no longer secret which contravenes what our system provides
Fingerprints could be used to check in people but they can't go on the ballot. A fair anonymous vote simply means ensuring chain of custody isn't broken and making the whole process transparent.
I absolutely agree and understand, the person who counts should not be a person but persons. I certainly urge every patriot to take back the process and make it transparent. Our reaction now should be voting reform, and preventing anything like this happening. Pushing back on MSM and forcing accountability by differentiating between press and opinion and holding press accountable for lies in the form of libel and slander.
Do you want fair elections or secret votes? Pro tip: as long as leftists have any influence, you can only pick one.
Secret vote hands down. If the dems had a list of everyone who voted Trump they would be going after them already.
States aren't even being held to their own laws. That is an excellent start. Contact your conservative leadership or network with conservatives to organize, or both if possible.
I'm not giving my finger print to the feds just to vote, that is retarded
Bro they have way more than that
own a gun have a drivers license been arrested veteran coach kids
if any of these apply to you they have it
They know what websites you visit and everywhere you go if you bring your phone or a newer vehicle. They probably know your genetic makeup if someone related to you did 23 and me. So you can go fight or worry they might know too much. Your call.
Yes what did voting achieve in this election for us? It got a million people to hang out in front of the white house. We wouldn't have done that. That's the thing voting may not give us immediate results but it does put cracks in the foundation of the broken system. Is there things we need to do beside voting. absolutely! But taking ONE day out of your lives every 2 years is not an unreasonable request.
Tried that.
Those machines should be removed by force from election offices, if our system isn't going to do it.
exactly. i believe that either dem or repub that TRULY stuck to ideals and TRULY elected would be 1000X better than the corrupt shit we have now.
Yeah, I'm sure anyone who cheated in an election is quick to vote for making cheating harder.
And that's the case now.
Because we showed up in record numbers and to give up like faggots isn't the fucking play
We keep pushing, keep dropping red pills, sign up as poll workers, etc.
The deck was always stacked against us, I dont give a shit
this train has no brakes
Sign up as a poll worker, go for it, and these cheaters will simply tell you all the slots are filled - like they did to the patriots who signed up.
And those that do get in, when they raise the flag to bring attention to something illegal, will be kicked out for being disruptive.
This is exactly what they did, this is exactly what no one except the Trump campaign objected to, so this is now the normal.
Okay so just give up? Yeah how American of us
I dont give a shit if I have to color my hair blue and switch genders, if we need covert-op then that's what it comes down to. But I'm tired of the defeatist bullshit attitude
I can walk and chew bubblegum. Ie I can advocate for fair elections while still voting for the party that aligns with my best interests in the meantime. I swear the defeatist shills are out in force
What's your master plan braniac?
And then what? Sounds like some wacko cult.
It may have no brakes; but we will see on the 20th if there is an end to the tracks.
We already did show up in record numbers. President Trump gained millions of votes compared to 2016. If election fraud is allowed to continue and the courts will deflect with "no standing" for fear of mobs, then we have to actually become a mob. Fear works.
8 days til you hit a fucking wall then. Your own fault for taking a train w/ no brakes.
The tree of liberty will either wither and die or be completely refreshed.
Ashli was just the first to feed it.
Anyone claiming 2022, or 2024, has no idea how Fraud works.
I too, am swearing off politics, I voted for Trump, not a politician. The rest can get fucked. Remember, they don’t need our vote. Just to support them when they take office. :)
There's no
Fucking
Point
Our votes are not counted.
not going to
if they can take this election, not be audited, and then the last president with any balls just steps down, then there is zero legal paths to winning an election.
honestly just trying to figure out which state to move to that won't be flooded by illegals soon
South Dakota
Thanks pede; I've been hearing nothing but good things about South Dakota lately. I'll look into it 🇺🇲
THE FOURTH BOX
STOP BEING DEMORALIZED
PREPARE
DO NOT CEDE YOUR FREEDOMS WILLINGLY
I'm willing, as soon as we get organized and our national leader steps up
Oh, wait...
Paul Revere didn't wait for a national leader to step up. But he was part of an org. Sad that people have forgotten.
I agree completely. The election was stolen, everyone knows it was stolen, everyone has seen proof it was stolen and yet the GOP just says, yup, we got beat. No, the people got beat and we're tired of it.
Plus they're compromised. Many have ties to China. Our representatives are not a representation of We the People.
They're just gonna rig it again...
Then do something about it fren. Work the polls. Run in your district. Start a local community of like minded people. If you can’t, support those doing so. Even words of encouragement count. Start small and win any little victories you can. It’s understandable to have no faith in this system. Don’t let voting be your only method of fight back, but don’t disregard it completely, because if by some fucking miracle the tide starts to turn, people will need your vote.
Secession seems to be the only legitimate way forward. To pressure states that recognize our constitutional distress.
This x1000, Texas is already in the beginning stages.
Somebody hack dominion in 2024 and put a trillion votes for trump. Regardless of whether or not he’s running. Then he will be president! Anyone who questions it is a threat to democracy!
Except that the double standard has been shown, it's only legal when the left does it
Yup, anyone not them that hacks it will spend life in prison.
I thought they had someone hacking Georgia in the runoffs. That guy said they got "in". I swear if it was just a larper then fuck him and fuck all the people at the top that enabled him. If he wasn't larping, then now would probably be a good time to share that information...
Not until traitors are held accountable.
Elections have forever changed.
i dont think anyone has faith in their election if america can just be subverted like this.
Um
Pedes.
they taught us how to rig
What are we waiting for
Look at Mexico. Their current president, who is one of the most prominent international leaders to speak out against the election fraud we all just witnessed, first ran for president of Mexico in 2006. He won but had the vote rigged against him so officially he lost. But the people who voted for him stayed active and managed to fix the fraudulent electoral system enough for him to run again and officially win this time. It’s possible. It’s happened before.
For real, if Mexico can do it, then AMERICANS CAN TOO. COWBOY THE FUCK UP.
It's literally never over. Like: until they kill every man, woman, and child who knows the truth it is never over.
Not voting means leaving them in power. House races in 2 years have got to be won. WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR PEOPLE COUNTING AND TAKING IN BALLOTS
Its rigged bro whats the fucking point lol
What matters is who counts the ballots. We need to make ourselves part of that process.
Then we rig them. No, I'm not joking. If that's the battlefield, let's fight.
Making them commit greater and greater fraud, wakes up more and more people.
don't know if I'll vote, but I can promise this - I will make an effort to ask any politician running what they've done to prosecute people who committed voter or election fraud, even if not determinative.
If they're response doesn't work - I'll simply tell them their answer is disqualifying, because little fraud begets big fraud.
Yes, good point. All Republicans that want to keep their jobs need to get a full scale investigation and fix of election fraud.
Exactly.
If they don't spend the next two years trying to get election integrity on the table and pushing for forensic analysis of 2020 - they're disqualified from holding office and I wouldn't consider voting for them.
They just stole 6 million votes to make a pedo President. Do you really think we’re not awake? Voting is pointless now, America as we knew it is gone. The only way we get it back is if the ruling class (which most are over 70) goes. That’s it.
Fraud you will never hear about again.
Does it even matter with the Uniparty? They all vote the same.
It does not matter even 1%.
Mittens or McCain or Obama. All the same shitstain on different colored undies
This is the way. Get involved in local/state level elections.
They already are in power.
Yeah screw that. Nothing matters anymore.
Everything still matters. What great thing comes without adversity? Is this the outcome we wanted? No. Is it looking bleak as fuck? Hell yes it is. But that should not be the reason to set aside your American exceptionalism. We overcome odds, not succumb to them, or we go down swinging.
Push state legislatures in all of the swing states to implement voting reform a la Florida. Then we primary non-MAGA Republicans in 2022, halting whatever damage Biden is doing to this country. Meanwhile, President Trump builds a media empire and acquires more allies than ever before (while at the same time identifying those who stabbed us in the back). We'll end up stronger in 2024 than we would have been in 2020.
That's President Trump's plan, at least. And it's much better than sulking.
Is that his plan? I haven't heard any very explicit announcements along those lines.
Yeah; I'll cite Robert Barnes for that, a lawyer who is personally acquainted with his plan. He'll tell you that the President isn't discouraged.
And how do I do that in PA? Huh? They know it’s bad, they sent a fucking letter saying that it was not to be certified. Now what? You think the commie governor Wolf is going to pass and sign election reform in PA? You think there is a shred of a chance that a Republican or a Patriot can be elected governor here? With Philly and Allegheny county? Please. Wake up!
Start emailing PA and asking them to pass immediate reform while the coals are hot. You call me asleep, but I'm the one moving to actually do something about this.
Start emailing PA and asking them to pass immediate reform while the coals are hot. You call me asleep, but I'm the one moving to actually do something about this.
I’ll always vote, but I now know that it will be a symbolic gesture (and probably has been for some time)
Yup. It will take some time for people here to come to terms with that fact.
Me either.....i can say with confidence that i will never vote in a federal election again. If we couldn't get it fixed this time no way in hell we are gonna get if fixed in the future. We had the Presidency and Senate on our side and couldn't do it, now it is ALL Blue so no way integrity will be restored. Bye Bye America...sorry to see you fall.
Vote with your wallets
Agree!!
They want to deplatform US? We will deplatform THEM!
Conservatives have money too! Far more than they realize!
They can never stop stealing elections after they start.
They are stealing this election right infront of our eyes, and apart from GEOTUS and some loyal people, nothing is beeing done about it. its so fuckign frustrating and how can this happen to the greatest country on earth??
The GOP died
It committed suicide
This much is true.
Could replace Trump with someone in 2024 that straight up says he plans to win but not through votes, don't know how successful it would be, but better than nothing
Why someone else? President Trump will win in 2024.
Because if Trump can't get the job after winning what was the point in trying at all? When one fails it's time for another with a new strat
Because he's still our strongest player.
Depends on the game being played, let's try at least looking to see if someone who stayed pro Trump all cycle / looks like a viable candidate has an alternative plan that could actually work, because it sure doesn't look like Trump is willing to do what needs to be done to drain the swamp, voting won't help anymore
Votingfags are so stupid. JuSt VoTe HaRdEr
I can’t upvote this enough. If you participate in an openly rigged election, you condone it. If they’ll cook up 81 million votes for a guy who lost everybprimary he was ever in, including the last one, there’s no limit to how far they’ll go. This is another situation that you cannot vote your way out of.
It's meaningless anyway since our votes aren't counted
Exactly. "durr let's start a new party!" It's like they don't realize the other side will still cheat and cover it up. lol
Consider Ron Desantis
You try to find someone that would stand up to a stolen election, vote for them, hope they don’t pussy out, rinse and repeat.
Ok how are they going to campaign? No social media, no banks will let them keep the money there. They are not allowed to sell merch, do you see? We are at the end of the line. We have to accept the fact that we couldn’t keep the republic. And the person who had the power to save it just left us all with a fucking sword over our heads. I can’t worry about voting anymore.
You can stop worrying, I’m gonna keep working to make america great again.
I don’t need a figurehead to campaign for good people, make my voice heard, and keep voting so that when someone with balls is in charge we can show that it’s rigged.
They want you to stop voting, that way they can do the audits and show they won legit. You’re playing into their long game, I won’t do that.
Can't think of a funny nor serious response to OP. I think he just broke me.
There’s no point anymore, they got caught like never before, and still got away with it.
The options that remain for preserving liberty are few. Somehow enforcing election laws on the state level, now that we know what we are up against, is a long shot but still possible. Passing constitutional amendments by convention of states is the most plausible in my opinion. After that the options are more grim.
Republican Legislatures need to reform their voting before the next election. Any state with Dominion needs to toss it out, use FL as the model. Republican states also need to pass an electoral system based on counties instead of the popular vote before liberals flip anymore states. It's a travesty for Red States with Democrats packed into blue cities dictating the rest of their state policy.
What would be the point? The dems just showed the entire world they can rig an election right in our faces with the most outlandish results possible, and we won't do shit about it. We just lost our guns, our rights, our culture, our country, and we stood by and let 'em.
we get involved and dont allow these mother fuckers to kick us out of the process, we learn to code we make our bodies and minds savage. We grow
I kind of have to agree, I'm so demoralized by this cheating. The fact they totally got away with it just proves that they have a proven method that works. What makes me think this won't just become business as usual for them?
You don't
Vote independent ans screw both parties, 80 million of us would change many elections in the future We should write in Elon Musk on every ballot
The illusion of choice is the ultimate method of control. Be free and refuse to play this rigged game.
You cant vote again, whats the use? They have Dominion and they use every illegal way they can to manufacture ballots and harvest ballots, we dont cheat so we wont ever have anything but Socialism from here on out.