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Yes. They usually find older people, seniors, to count. They didn't this time because of muh covid. They hired younger people. To the last, they all looked like BLM and antifa supporters
yea I agree but that's how they would get exposed as not being a true lefty. either way we must record and document everything. I'm surprised I haven't seen more of it, but the stuff I have seen and heard is a no Brainer of the amount of evidence that is fraud. where are the judges to prove this in a court of law and say to ALL the people once and for all wtf happened to stop sleepy Joe from sworn in.
Won't work. They have the judges and prosecutors. If you break the law, you go to prision. If their counters break the law, nothing. Of the four boxes of freedom, there's one box left, and they're coming for that one next.
I specifically logged in to say this: The 2020 election has been definitive proof that elections will NOT work anymore. We had a beyond landslide victory and watched as every branch of govt used their power to ignore it in collusion with the media and big tech.
It’s not doomer to say poll watching/counting/voting is pointless. They literally froze the counting until they got the result they needed which was created in a variety of illegal ways.
IF WE’RE GOING BACK TO ‘BUSINESS AS USUAL’ THEN THIS WAS ALL FOR NOTHING!
I’m not playing this game again where my team thinks we’re in the 1940s and follows all the rules while the enemy does whatever they want and wins. It won’t work.
Really. What kind of thick minds think things go back to normal after this? Elections are rigged! Havent these folk been paying attention or are they just old, passive timid minds?
This might pass off some people, but I remember the night of the hanging Chad. That was GOP all the way. I know it was RINOS, but it sure wasn't dems. It just happened differently. My point is, cheating happens, always has, and comes from both sides.
And thats why they refused to investigate the fraud, because its one big show, there is no two party system just one great big corrupt swamp that decides who gets elected and who doesnt.
They proved it when the republicans stabbed Trump and all of us in the back by confirming biden.
They think once Trump is out of the way they'll be able to go back to fucking us all over and living lavishly doing it.
If mathematically there was such a thing as 1,000% I would certainly be behind you 1,000%... But seeing as though there is no such thing as 1,000% then I can only tell you that I am in 100% agreement with your assessment. Personally though. I don't trust a single thing that President Trump is saying to everybody in this TIME OF WAR...
I refuse to believe that President Trump would leave us at the most crucial time in this war.
In fact. I will not believe anything that President Trump says... I will only believe what he actually does. What I do know is that most of you people hate to hear this. But I'm still going to say it. Most of you apparently haven't been listening to what The President and his closest supporters have been saying all along...
"Disinformation is necessary in war." "We will never surrender." "The United States will never be a communist nation". "President Donald Trump will be The President of the United States for the next 4 years." "Pray... and never give up hope or faith in God."
It's not over yet people... Not by a long shot. Joe Biden will never be our President. This is war!
So you think having a landslide victory get mass manipulated by every major American power into a loss isn’t proof that voting has become corrupt? We already had thousands of people witness fraud and no one cares. All govt agencies and powers on both sides said they don’t care.
Please explain to me what you think voting now after 2020 is supposed to accomplish knowing someone can just remote in from China and change the results in 3 clicks? Don’t be stupid.
Just read the legal background and then reread my comment. They set up an unfair hoop where now it's about disputing an election that doesn't have another undisputed election behind it. Unless I'm wrong which is why I have a question mark.
According to their view of laches, our aggrieved status was ripe during the 2 primaries with those top respective candidates fighting amongst themselves.
That's obviously BS since there was no plainly obvious Delta of mail in vs regular ballots between inside the parties during the primaries. Regardless, now that Biden can only be impeached, there is a new election in 2022 coming up for the non-Legislature case to get in and be "ripe", overturning universal mail ins in spite of all flu being converted to sars2?
According to their view of laches, our aggrieved status was ripe during the 2 primaries with those top respective candidates fighting amongst themselves.
That's obviously BS since there was no plainly obvious Delta of mail in vs regular ballots between inside the parties during the primaries. Regardless, now that Biden can only be impeached, there is a new election in 2022 coming up for the non-Legislature case to get in and be "ripe", overturning universal mail ins in spite of all flu being converted to sars2?
Remember this covid business? It’s not going away and the social distancing will be the justification for keeping you away from counters. I’m not saying it’s for sure but be prepared for health and safety excuse forever. Kind of like how you have to take off your shoes at the airport to this day.
no I mean volunteer to be the counters. be the ones who tallies the votes. act like a leftist if you have to and then when those ballots start coming in and you have the ability to decide who that ballot is for......count it exactly as you should under the law.
at some point during the night the fraudsters might figure out that you're not cheating....but then they'd have to call you out loudly for....not cheating? you could call the cops on them for causing interference.
no I mean volunteer to be the counters. be the ones who tallies the votes. act like a leftist if you have to and then when those ballots start coming in and you have the ability to decide who that ballot is for......count it exactly as you should under the law.
at some point during the night the fraudsters might figure out that you're not cheating....but then they'd have to call you out loudly for....not cheating? you could call the cops on them for causing interference.
no I mean volunteer to be the counters. be the ones who tallies the votes. act like a leftist if you have to and then when those ballots start coming in and you have the ability to decide who that ballot is for......count it exactly as you should under the law.
at some point during the night the fraudsters might figure out that you're not cheating....but then they'd have to call you out loudly for....not cheating? you could call the cops on them for causing interference.
The independent poll watchers continuously spouted marxist and communist bullshit according to some of the affidavits. Of which, none have been disputed or challenged.
Local government via an America First party should be the next step. Elections are administered by counties, and every county run by us would be one less where we have to worry about fraud. Plus, local elections are a venue where a young third party can succeed and grow, and there are too many of them to effectively rig.
We need to think like dems. This party is so damn pussified and always wanting to be righteous. Nah, we need to be commies on the outside, patriots on the inside. Fight fire with fire.
I love that you guys are thinking productively but here's what would happen: you get put at a counting table as a leftist. Your supervisor notices you aren't stealing votes. You get removed from the building by police and investigated for election fraud and labeled a domestic terrorist.
Why? So you can go before a state legislature - no! FOUR state legislatures! - to present hours of testimony, hundreds of sworn affidavits and mountains of evidence?
So that legislatures can then rule to notify election officials of fraud?
And then, just for giggles, you can make a case before every court in the land, all the way up to the SC.
And the media will report on your evidence and testimony the whole time.
Ya know, just to make absolutely certain everyone is made aware of election fraud and decisive action is taken to correct it.
When indoctrination and propaganda convinced a large enough percentage of the population that big government is the solution to every problem and that they have our best interests at heart.
How do you fix the system then? I’m seeing a lot of “never voting again cus ma feefees hurt” posts, but no suggestions as to what we should do instead, just a lot of dooming and glooming.
As silly as it seems, not many people vote in Senate and House races compared to the general election. We could potentially win some of those by a wide margin if the candidates are MAGA
Infiltrate government at the lowest levels and bringing it to your will is exactly how they have gotten so much power. We need to do the exact same thing instead in greater numbers rather than relying on the uniparty turncoat GOP to help us.
......Except it is even easier for them to commit fraud at low level elections.
How fucking long is it going to take us to move past this? To let go of fighting within the confines of the law, when our enemy does not? The morality of the right has been its downfall, and is the surest guarantee that the war is over and the left has won.
"Except it is even easier for them to commit fraud at low level elections."
That's why you take over local government at the low level. Sign up to count the votes. Fucking infiltrate and sabotage your local county democrat offices if you have to. Get in the mud. The left has advocates at every level of government and a lot of them are at lower level positions where they run uncontested. They need to be contested at every turn. School boards, voting boards, village councils. That shit shapes the future too. And there aren't a lot of patriots vying for thos positions when they need to be. If it's impossible for a republican to get elected in your area, change your party to democrat and sabotage everything you can.
I'm running in my town's elections next time around, unless there's something on the county level that's uncontested. Then I'll go for thatm
And don't give me the "But they cheat!" Excuse. So fucking what? Quit being a bitch and get dirty.
This isn't going to be an easy or short term battle. We need to flip this shit permanently within a generation. It's absolutely doable, but not with a defeatist attitude.
And don't give me the "But they cheat!" Excuse. So fucking what? Quit being a bitch and get dirty.
What? Yeah, great specific instructions there. Your entire post is pseudo-cavalier feel-good bullshit. Empty platitudes. Enjoy your internet points; they're the biggest success you'll ever accomplish for the right.
Here are a couple gargantuan problems:
If you're a Fucking White Male ®, you won't even be able to get elected by pretending to be a democrat. Whatever opponent you have will always crucify your white, non-mentally-ill ass for being white and non-mentally-ill.
Even if you get into office, by pretending to be a dem or otherwise, what happens the moment you reveal your true right-wing colors? You'll be cancelled instantly. You'll never, ever get a job anywhere ever again. Your house will probably be burned down. Your family might be murdered. All by the voters themselves.
Holding elected office won't work because CULTURE is shifting left. And if culture is left, you will never, ever be able to enact right-wing policies. Elected office is not the answer; we need to pursue secession first and foremost, while civilly disobeying democrat-passed policies in the meantime. And we also need to engage in propaganda, making our best attempt to shift the retarded braindead masses back to the right in case all of the above doesn't work.
Yup. As much as many of us doom around here its unlikely theyre gonna exterminate us all in 2 or 4 years. We can at least push back until we gain a foothold and take our country back as a longterm plan
It is. Just look at everyone refluxively calling me a "dur-hurr doomer!" just for being realistic in simple ways that their defective brains cannot possibly comprehend.
It's not about that. Politicians are cucks. They move towards the side they fear the most.
This is about convincing normies, this is about turning normies against the left.
And so far, this has been spectacularily successful. Nearly 80% of Republicans believe this election was BS, 30% of independents and even some democrats.
The left conquered the culture before they conquered politics, because the movement comes before the policy. Don't waste your time hoping that cucks will step up, create pressure so they obey.
I think the idea is we all adopt "project veritas" tactics. I do also see your point in that if legislators and those in charge of running elections selectively follow the laws it won't matter what we do.
Second of all, you don't get to count your own ballots, you dunder headed twit. You count the ballots they give you. You really think you're gonna be running your own forgery scam on the side while they are?
Oh, and fuck nut. Since you haven't figured this out yet... when they expose your obvious fraud, you're the criminal. They go on to elect the next president... again.
Specifically need to do this in urban metropolitan cities. We already have a foothold on the rural areas if you have a city within an hour of you this would change the election. If we had one inside man in 4 cities Trump would be on a victory tour right now.
I will be starting my citizenship process and registering Democrat to try to do the same. My state went red and it's a swing state, but the city I live in is one of the only blue areas and they may try to swing it next time.
Please anyone near a city, register as a Democrat and do this. The downside is that from here on out forever it'll be controlled opposition so it's not clear who theyd be rigging it for, but if someone MAGA runs again it'll be huge.
Although I question what id even do. I saw many videos of them padding fraudulent ballots while videotaped right in front of someone. You'd have to forcefully restrain them and police will be bought by the other side. Fuck this country is so fucked man
Not a bad fucking idea. Many of us are former lefties. I can still talk the talk well enough to convince just about anybody. I bet I am just one of many who can.
I am calling their representatives asking for policy initiatives that I like. Just because they're lefties don't mean they don't have a job to do on my behalf.
fuck doing honest counts now. You think this gets won by 'taking the high road' you need to re-read you history.
We have all been privileged to have been born after a long time when 'high road' was an option because thousands of people bled and dirtied their hands to make the world that way.
YOU ALL BETTER START DOING SOME FUCKING CHEATING and drop this 'law and order' bullshit if you want to get out of this.
Got a bad feeling if something drastic doesnt happen they will get their blue wave they bitched about all summer....maga supporters are going to be severely disenfranchised....but we dont matter...not saying I wont vote but we are going to see a MAJOR drop
This is a good way to start. Register so they maybe underestimate the levels of fraud required.
Also maybe start collecting independent funded polling to accurately collect data. Maybe even stand outside to ask based pedes about their vote. Start a tabulation process on our own.
Count the number of people who go to each precinct.
Get mail pedes on the inside to count mail in ballots in transit.
Not our job to prove the election was fair, but I’d gladly partake if it meant the election would be fair.
The goal is for us to be counting the votes, not watching the count, so we can stop the cheating that way. It's not to detect the crime, it's to prevent it from being committed.
A lot of it wasn't digital, or they wouldn't have been bussing in ballots after the fact, pulling them out from under tables, who knows what else. Why isn't our priority ridding every state of electronic ballot tabulators?
Because the time to do that was before the last election. Now they know where and how to cheat everything. All the states where there was cheating- they’ll cheat the same next time. So now, they can focus on Texas and other red strongholds. You’ll have token red states like Oklahoma and probably Kansas or Wyoming. You’ll get nice jingoistic politicians from them. They’ll say the right things. People on here will post about how “based,” Senator [Oklahoma] is and how “he’ll surely win in 2024....” because everyone has the memory of a cat and will forget that elections don’t matter anymore.
I am or was a Democrat, I am the correct color. I am a short drive to Milwaukee. In fact I've thought about working my way up through the Democrat ranks over the next decade to aide our cause in the long run.
And when you're silenced, forced out of the counting room, threatened with arrest, attacked, deplatformed, and doxxed like all of the conservatives had happen since November?
They can't, or won't, see the bigger picture. They still think observers have any power, but this election proved they don't.
The entire election process is compromised, corrupt, and controlled by dems. Remember all the hearings by election committees, run by dems? How all polling stations are run by dems? How all state election officials are dems? How so many DA's are Soros puppets who refused to act? How many police departments who refused to act? Election officials defied the SCOTUS. All covered by a fifth column media.
We have to break ALL of that to even dream of an honest election. Good luck, because this is Post-America, where laws are what Democrats decide they are.
Folks we have been set back. We do still have things we can do!
Not "giving up" has nothing to do with whether or not Trump or someone else sits in the white house. Do you believe this is bigger than him now? Get involved locally.
Infiltration always works better than cooperation, that much is abundantly clear. You will unfortunately have to betray yourself in the process to truly infiltrate.
"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."
what’s the point? Doesn’t matter how many people are watching with dominion. Votes don’t matter anymore.We’re closer to being a banana republic than Europe. They still allow their populists and conservatives to win if they’re far ahead and it would be too obvious if they stole the election. Here the left will steal the election right in front of our eyes no matter how big the landslide is on the right and the right will help them do it.
Counting anything is not going to matter is someone can remote in and electronically change the vote. None of it will matter though bc if we go true democracy then that large group of stupid ppl will be the most dangerous thing- especially if it comes down to voting to throw you in reeducation camps for supporting Trump!! Woot Democracy!!!
Honestly does anyone believe if bizzaro world stays in effect we would ever have an election again? If there was one don't you think it would be a dog and pony show to keep the sheep asleep?
I sure as hell am not going to delude myself that life will resume to a semblance of what it once was.
THIS IS OUR ALAMO!!!! THIS IS OUR LAST STAND!!
HOLD THE LINE PEDES AND STAND FIRM IN THE KNOWLEDGE WE WILL PREVAIL!!
There are people feeding the machines.... but those people all need to be onboard with the fraud, otherwise they wouldn't be allowed near the machines.
What we need is more hidden cameras during the meetings deciding how to cheat.
"we are gonna win a war by watching them do fraud from 30 feet"
That's you, that's what you're saying. I'm all for a war, but not watching the left cuck votes
This is a battle if not won now, will cost us the war. The war is over on the 20th because they will fix the glitch to ensure something like President Trump never happens again.
People DID do this. They legit only hired BLM activists, progressive ideologues though. There was never a real hiring process where the fraud went down in these corrupt cities.
IT IS NOT ENOUGH THAT WE SIMPLY APPLY TO BE A POLL WORKER. WE HAVE TO BEGIN BY JOINING THEIR GROUPS (political, social, businesses) AND GET INTO THEIR CIRCLES OF INFLUENCE. Never expose yourselves either but if you want to be able to stop the voting fraud, we’ve got to be hired and make them think, we are one of them. Once that happens, we control elections and bring back election integrity again.
That is what I am going to be doing. It has to be a bottom-up dismantling.
Say what you will about this faggots who stole the election but they knew what they were doing, had the money to do it, and didn’t care about playing nice. It’s long past time we start doing some the same things if we ever hope to keep our country.
We’ve got to literally create our own internet as well with new ISPs, new media and tech industry (e.g. RSBN and OANN), new platforms, new search engines, new social networks. You name it, we’ve got to do it.
Once these two things are done, we can take back our country by whatever means necessary. Whether that he by force or by politics.
I mean, you can be condescending about it but I am not talking about some chalked up bullshit.
There are hundreds of progressive groups and organizations all over the US, particularly in places like the bay area, portland, etc.
Just being in outer circles of these groups, reveals of a lot stuff regarding intentions, motives, and what the narrative will be. Already have an ear to wall in several of these, but I am getting involved in others.
Also, you'd be surprised at their eagerness to accept someone who is openly self-loathing about their 'whiteness' and how they "know" that their "white skin is seen as an assault on those of color".
These people are not nearly as smart as they think they are. They are not stupid either, but many of these young ideology driven, messianic-complex ridden, political activists types love it when others see them as a "leader for change" or whatever they want to tell themselves.
Regardless, the cultural shift we've caused over the past 4 years won't mean shit unless people start being real about we are facing here. Enough giving ground and expecting dishonest selfish politicians to play fair and nice like the right has been doing for decades.
This especially non-white pedes. Especially pedes with a foreign accent.
Remember the legislature testimony of the only GOP observer to no be kicked out from that her precinct. She said they all assumed she was a Democrat because she wasn't white. Use their racism against them.
Why be honest if they are cheating? Its time to shed the GOPe "we are better than that" crap. This is war, and its time to fight to win. It doesn't matter how honest and correct we are if they are going to cheat themselves into control any way.
Eh, you have 8 days to get this done or there will never be another free election for the rest of your life. The people will never vote again, because the machines will do your voting for you.
Its cute how you think theres ever going to be another honest election again.
Ive got my plans for how to resist this illegitimate takeover, but by all means keep believing you can fix a broken system through the same broken system.
This is a good productive thing to do, good idea!
Absolutely....this would have made a huge difference if we had this in place. We need more creative ideas like this. Beat them at their own game.
Yes. They usually find older people, seniors, to count. They didn't this time because of muh covid. They hired younger people. To the last, they all looked like BLM and antifa supporters
Angry black ladies that looked like my high school hall monitors
The cleverest part of this theft is the fact that half of it was committed on the individual level.
"It's not about who casts, the votes, but instead who counts them."
I only hope that my fellow pedes who count the votes in 2022 will count accurately. It takes a lot of strength not to steal something back.
Using a computer program to commit instant, massive fraud can’t be addressed by temporary staffers
yea I agree but that's how they would get exposed as not being a true lefty. either way we must record and document everything. I'm surprised I haven't seen more of it, but the stuff I have seen and heard is a no Brainer of the amount of evidence that is fraud. where are the judges to prove this in a court of law and say to ALL the people once and for all wtf happened to stop sleepy Joe from sworn in.
Won't work. They have the judges and prosecutors. If you break the law, you go to prision. If their counters break the law, nothing. Of the four boxes of freedom, there's one box left, and they're coming for that one next.
I specifically logged in to say this: The 2020 election has been definitive proof that elections will NOT work anymore. We had a beyond landslide victory and watched as every branch of govt used their power to ignore it in collusion with the media and big tech.
It’s not doomer to say poll watching/counting/voting is pointless. They literally froze the counting until they got the result they needed which was created in a variety of illegal ways.
IF WE’RE GOING BACK TO ‘BUSINESS AS USUAL’ THEN THIS WAS ALL FOR NOTHING! I’m not playing this game again where my team thinks we’re in the 1940s and follows all the rules while the enemy does whatever they want and wins. It won’t work.
Find. A. New. Plan.
Really. What kind of thick minds think things go back to normal after this? Elections are rigged! Havent these folk been paying attention or are they just old, passive timid minds?
A million time this, voting is now a pointless endeavor, they stole the presidency they can get away with anything they want.
There is only one stopgap left and that is we the people with the second amendment.
This might pass off some people, but I remember the night of the hanging Chad. That was GOP all the way. I know it was RINOS, but it sure wasn't dems. It just happened differently. My point is, cheating happens, always has, and comes from both sides.
And thats why they refused to investigate the fraud, because its one big show, there is no two party system just one great big corrupt swamp that decides who gets elected and who doesnt.
They proved it when the republicans stabbed Trump and all of us in the back by confirming biden.
They think once Trump is out of the way they'll be able to go back to fucking us all over and living lavishly doing it.
If mathematically there was such a thing as 1,000% I would certainly be behind you 1,000%... But seeing as though there is no such thing as 1,000% then I can only tell you that I am in 100% agreement with your assessment. Personally though. I don't trust a single thing that President Trump is saying to everybody in this TIME OF WAR...
I refuse to believe that President Trump would leave us at the most crucial time in this war.
In fact. I will not believe anything that President Trump says... I will only believe what he actually does. What I do know is that most of you people hate to hear this. But I'm still going to say it. Most of you apparently haven't been listening to what The President and his closest supporters have been saying all along...
"Disinformation is necessary in war." "We will never surrender." "The United States will never be a communist nation". "President Donald Trump will be The President of the United States for the next 4 years." "Pray... and never give up hope or faith in God."
It's not over yet people... Not by a long shot. Joe Biden will never be our President. This is war!
All those statements are conditional on our will and action. Actually God's will but we try our best
I think I misread your comment that by saying "watching/count/vote" you weren't including the judges and prosecutors.
I think you're a doomer, not on Biden which we can't indict a sitting president, but on the future elections
So you think having a landslide victory get mass manipulated by every major American power into a loss isn’t proof that voting has become corrupt? We already had thousands of people witness fraud and no one cares. All govt agencies and powers on both sides said they don’t care.
Please explain to me what you think voting now after 2020 is supposed to accomplish knowing someone can just remote in from China and change the results in 3 clicks? Don’t be stupid.
Just read the legal background and then reread my comment. They set up an unfair hoop where now it's about disputing an election that doesn't have another undisputed election behind it. Unless I'm wrong which is why I have a question mark.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/12/07/levin_why_pennsylvania_mail-in-ballot_changes_are_unconstitutional.html#!
According to their view of laches, our aggrieved status was ripe during the 2 primaries with those top respective candidates fighting amongst themselves.
That's obviously BS since there was no plainly obvious Delta of mail in vs regular ballots between inside the parties during the primaries. Regardless, now that Biden can only be impeached, there is a new election in 2022 coming up for the non-Legislature case to get in and be "ripe", overturning universal mail ins in spite of all flu being converted to sars2?
According to their view of laches, our aggrieved status was ripe during the 2 primaries with those top respective candidates fighting amongst themselves.
That's obviously BS since there was no plainly obvious Delta of mail in vs regular ballots between inside the parties during the primaries. Regardless, now that Biden can only be impeached, there is a new election in 2022 coming up for the non-Legislature case to get in and be "ripe", overturning universal mail ins in spite of all flu being converted to sars2?
Don't get caught...
we don't have to break the law. if we swamp the polls with counters, and then simply count the votes accurately....we'll win.
Remember this covid business? It’s not going away and the social distancing will be the justification for keeping you away from counters. I’m not saying it’s for sure but be prepared for health and safety excuse forever. Kind of like how you have to take off your shoes at the airport to this day.
no I mean volunteer to be the counters. be the ones who tallies the votes. act like a leftist if you have to and then when those ballots start coming in and you have the ability to decide who that ballot is for......count it exactly as you should under the law.
at some point during the night the fraudsters might figure out that you're not cheating....but then they'd have to call you out loudly for....not cheating? you could call the cops on them for causing interference.
no I mean volunteer to be the counters. be the ones who tallies the votes. act like a leftist if you have to and then when those ballots start coming in and you have the ability to decide who that ballot is for......count it exactly as you should under the law.
at some point during the night the fraudsters might figure out that you're not cheating....but then they'd have to call you out loudly for....not cheating? you could call the cops on them for causing interference.
no I mean volunteer to be the counters. be the ones who tallies the votes. act like a leftist if you have to and then when those ballots start coming in and you have the ability to decide who that ballot is for......count it exactly as you should under the law.
at some point during the night the fraudsters might figure out that you're not cheating....but then they'd have to call you out loudly for....not cheating? you could call the cops on them for causing interference.
I don't see why we can't get the same ones back on our side
Timeliness was shitty and ruined 2020, but it's still overturned in the future
https://thedonald.win/p/11S0SJpKaG/x/c/4DuUULO3xX5
In the big cities the counters were not volunteers. they were paid city employees who they pulled from the municipal workforce.
In other words, a bunch of leftist diversity hires
Yes and they recruited through that big union they have. The new younger dem workers in my area were all from companies with it
The independent poll watchers continuously spouted marxist and communist bullshit according to some of the affidavits. Of which, none have been disputed or challenged.
Local government via an America First party should be the next step. Elections are administered by counties, and every county run by us would be one less where we have to worry about fraud. Plus, local elections are a venue where a young third party can succeed and grow, and there are too many of them to effectively rig.
People talk about the fraud as though it took place in five states.
It didn't..
The fraud happened in five cities.
Cities that democrats own.
An entire state's worth of red counties means nothing when the single city in the state is held by corrupt communist democrats.
The fraud happened in those blue cities but they were covered up by the states. Same difference
The amount of fraud is always going to be much higher than the amount of detectable fraud. Unless they're really bad at it, which seems unlikely.
We need to think like dems. This party is so damn pussified and always wanting to be righteous. Nah, we need to be commies on the outside, patriots on the inside. Fight fire with fire.
I love that you guys are thinking productively but here's what would happen: you get put at a counting table as a leftist. Your supervisor notices you aren't stealing votes. You get removed from the building by police and investigated for election fraud and labeled a domestic terrorist.
Why? So you can go before a state legislature - no! FOUR state legislatures! - to present hours of testimony, hundreds of sworn affidavits and mountains of evidence?
So that legislatures can then rule to notify election officials of fraud?
And then, just for giggles, you can make a case before every court in the land, all the way up to the SC.
And the media will report on your evidence and testimony the whole time.
Ya know, just to make absolutely certain everyone is made aware of election fraud and decisive action is taken to correct it.
Ok. You're right. We will do nothing but be defeatist cucks. That'll fix the republic.
No I think he is just saying that voting in a system they control isn't the way.
Future elections
When did the American people stop controlling the system and the parties started to?
Like anything else, slow process from the 90s to now.
No it was George HW Bush
He started the whole globalization shit
I’m glad he was executed. Traitor
Have you seen Eisenhower’s farewell warning?
When indoctrination and propaganda convinced a large enough percentage of the population that big government is the solution to every problem and that they have our best interests at heart.
How do you fix the system then? I’m seeing a lot of “never voting again cus ma feefees hurt” posts, but no suggestions as to what we should do instead, just a lot of dooming and glooming.
Would genuinely like to know an alternative.
As silly as it seems, not many people vote in Senate and House races compared to the general election. We could potentially win some of those by a wide margin if the candidates are MAGA
We can't talk about what protections were put in place for when voting fails.
WE all know there is only one way. Instead I recommend sitting down to a cool Sam Adams, you know, just to think.
Go on welfare/disability.
Stop feeding the monster and funding your destruction.
I would reiterate my suggestion here but some faggot would just call me a glowie again.
"Stop banging your head against the wall! You'll never knock it down, that way!"
"Ok. You're right. We will do nothing but be defeatist cucks."
"No, I simply meant use this sledghammer."
Infiltrate government at the lowest levels and bringing it to your will is exactly how they have gotten so much power. We need to do the exact same thing instead in greater numbers rather than relying on the uniparty turncoat GOP to help us.
Already on it. Decent way up the ladder.
Godspeed
Use the sledgehammer and you can climb half way and knock out the top half of the ladder and be at the top faster. To use your own analogy.
Yes sir. Getting really god damn tired of these lazy keyboard warriors who expect someone else to save their country.
What you gonna do?
Exactly what jarvis suggested. Work at the polls in a Dem shithole. Tell them I'm trans so they're terrified to not hire me.
......Except it is even easier for them to commit fraud at low level elections.
How fucking long is it going to take us to move past this? To let go of fighting within the confines of the law, when our enemy does not? The morality of the right has been its downfall, and is the surest guarantee that the war is over and the left has won.
"Except it is even easier for them to commit fraud at low level elections."
That's why you take over local government at the low level. Sign up to count the votes. Fucking infiltrate and sabotage your local county democrat offices if you have to. Get in the mud. The left has advocates at every level of government and a lot of them are at lower level positions where they run uncontested. They need to be contested at every turn. School boards, voting boards, village councils. That shit shapes the future too. And there aren't a lot of patriots vying for thos positions when they need to be. If it's impossible for a republican to get elected in your area, change your party to democrat and sabotage everything you can.
I'm running in my town's elections next time around, unless there's something on the county level that's uncontested. Then I'll go for thatm
And don't give me the "But they cheat!" Excuse. So fucking what? Quit being a bitch and get dirty.
This isn't going to be an easy or short term battle. We need to flip this shit permanently within a generation. It's absolutely doable, but not with a defeatist attitude.
What? Yeah, great specific instructions there. Your entire post is pseudo-cavalier feel-good bullshit. Empty platitudes. Enjoy your internet points; they're the biggest success you'll ever accomplish for the right.
Here are a couple gargantuan problems:
If you're a Fucking White Male ®, you won't even be able to get elected by pretending to be a democrat. Whatever opponent you have will always crucify your white, non-mentally-ill ass for being white and non-mentally-ill.
Even if you get into office, by pretending to be a dem or otherwise, what happens the moment you reveal your true right-wing colors? You'll be cancelled instantly. You'll never, ever get a job anywhere ever again. Your house will probably be burned down. Your family might be murdered. All by the voters themselves.
Holding elected office won't work because CULTURE is shifting left. And if culture is left, you will never, ever be able to enact right-wing policies. Elected office is not the answer; we need to pursue secession first and foremost, while civilly disobeying democrat-passed policies in the meantime. And we also need to engage in propaganda, making our best attempt to shift the retarded braindead masses back to the right in case all of the above doesn't work.
Yup. As much as many of us doom around here its unlikely theyre gonna exterminate us all in 2 or 4 years. We can at least push back until we gain a foothold and take our country back as a longterm plan
The system is rigged. If you find fraud, they’ll show you how they didn’t. Playing a rigged game is pointless.
Maybe try finding a solution that'll... shit, idk... work.
No, it's not that. It's just that this isn't the way.
It is. Just look at everyone refluxively calling me a "dur-hurr doomer!" just for being realistic in simple ways that their defective brains cannot possibly comprehend.
It's not about that. Politicians are cucks. They move towards the side they fear the most. This is about convincing normies, this is about turning normies against the left.
And so far, this has been spectacularily successful. Nearly 80% of Republicans believe this election was BS, 30% of independents and even some democrats.
The left conquered the culture before they conquered politics, because the movement comes before the policy. Don't waste your time hoping that cucks will step up, create pressure so they obey.
I think the idea is we all adopt "project veritas" tactics. I do also see your point in that if legislators and those in charge of running elections selectively follow the laws it won't matter what we do.
They can't cheat if they aren't the ones counting votes you defeatist fucking moron. Stop crying while doing nothing to fix things.
Hey retard. First of all, suck my dick.
Second of all, you don't get to count your own ballots, you dunder headed twit. You count the ballots they give you. You really think you're gonna be running your own forgery scam on the side while they are?
Oh, and fuck nut. Since you haven't figured this out yet... when they expose your obvious fraud, you're the criminal. They go on to elect the next president... again.
So become "they" you fat, lazy asshole
Specifically need to do this in urban metropolitan cities. We already have a foothold on the rural areas if you have a city within an hour of you this would change the election. If we had one inside man in 4 cities Trump would be on a victory tour right now.
I will be starting my citizenship process and registering Democrat to try to do the same. My state went red and it's a swing state, but the city I live in is one of the only blue areas and they may try to swing it next time.
Please anyone near a city, register as a Democrat and do this. The downside is that from here on out forever it'll be controlled opposition so it's not clear who theyd be rigging it for, but if someone MAGA runs again it'll be huge.
Although I question what id even do. I saw many videos of them padding fraudulent ballots while videotaped right in front of someone. You'd have to forcefully restrain them and police will be bought by the other side. Fuck this country is so fucked man
Not a bad fucking idea. Many of us are former lefties. I can still talk the talk well enough to convince just about anybody. I bet I am just one of many who can.
That is not something I could currently commit to doing for a variety of reasons.
Yep, and just run the ballots you like 7+ times in a row
We could do this easily in rural areas. Ones where you have to work to survive, so you know there's no Democrat presence.
Won't work.
Democrats stuffed the ballots in a single major democrat controlled city in each of the fraudulent states.
Register as a Democrat in advance. Dye your hair blue.
If I’m volunteering in 2024, I’m going to need a suitcase. And a van. And some plywood.
Don’t forget the pizza boxes! Stacks of pizza boxes. Stacks on stacks on stacks!
Why wait until a presidential election? This is the reason why the right side has fucking lost a lot too. There is more than one election.
I might register as a Democrat and do that.
This should be our play. If they’re going to cheat, we’re going to become “Democrats” and sabotage their efforts.
Edit: See Project Veritas for examples of their arrogance.
You'll have to agree to bang kids on camera before they let you win a meaningful election as a Democrat.
Can we find some based dwarves and makeup artists to hire?
Seth rich tried that.
He was successful, was he not? One man can only accomplish so much.
I am calling their representatives asking for policy initiatives that I like. Just because they're lefties don't mean they don't have a job to do on my behalf.
It's sad when doing an honest count is sabotaging their efforts.
fuck doing honest counts now. You think this gets won by 'taking the high road' you need to re-read you history.
We have all been privileged to have been born after a long time when 'high road' was an option because thousands of people bled and dirtied their hands to make the world that way.
YOU ALL BETTER START DOING SOME FUCKING CHEATING and drop this 'law and order' bullshit if you want to get out of this.
Based democrat
Got a bad feeling if something drastic doesnt happen they will get their blue wave they bitched about all summer....maga supporters are going to be severely disenfranchised....but we dont matter...not saying I wont vote but we are going to see a MAJOR drop
DINOs sounds better. Rawr xD
We need DINOs
I'd be willing to shave half my head, and the color half my hair blue to fit in. The commies wouldn't suspect a thing.
Exactly what I plan to do.
Not only vote counters, but ALL factions of the left need to be infiltrated, information gathered and exposed at the right moment.
This is a good way to start. Register so they maybe underestimate the levels of fraud required.
Also maybe start collecting independent funded polling to accurately collect data. Maybe even stand outside to ask based pedes about their vote. Start a tabulation process on our own.
Count the number of people who go to each precinct.
Get mail pedes on the inside to count mail in ballots in transit.
Not our job to prove the election was fair, but I’d gladly partake if it meant the election would be fair.
It's called Trafalgar
Done
Whats this going to do? We have 1k signed affidavits and they didn't even get looked at.
It will give the illusion of doing something to people who still don’t understand the level of cheating that went on.
All the shit you find, record, document will either be dismissed in court, or you will be destroyed by the same people you are trying to discredit.
☝☝☝
The goal is for us to be counting the votes, not watching the count, so we can stop the cheating that way. It's not to detect the crime, it's to prevent it from being committed.
If it’s digital, you stop nothing.
A lot of it wasn't digital, or they wouldn't have been bussing in ballots after the fact, pulling them out from under tables, who knows what else. Why isn't our priority ridding every state of electronic ballot tabulators?
Because the time to do that was before the last election. Now they know where and how to cheat everything. All the states where there was cheating- they’ll cheat the same next time. So now, they can focus on Texas and other red strongholds. You’ll have token red states like Oklahoma and probably Kansas or Wyoming. You’ll get nice jingoistic politicians from them. They’ll say the right things. People on here will post about how “based,” Senator [Oklahoma] is and how “he’ll surely win in 2024....” because everyone has the memory of a cat and will forget that elections don’t matter anymore.
The count is digital, feeding the same Chinese-printed ballots into the machine ten times to reach the required number of votes isn't.
As long as we have a voice and will to fight for truth, we should use them. If we give up, that will truly be the end.
Yep
Calling the referee does nothing, so do the actual counting and throw out any votes that aren't legitimate.
And the first basket you give back in and it isnt going their way, you will be relieved of duties.
Counters are selected from previous hijackings. I say change your party to democrat and infiltrate
we may not have the same cheating power they had but a few intelligent saboteurs could change the world and not have to shed any blood
Run as a democrat, count as democrat, do everything as a democrat. Infest their party and become the cancer that destroys them from within...
Be like water
“What is an ocean, but a sea of tiny droplets?”
They've done that to us. No reason why it couldn't work the other way around.
Register as NPA (no party affiliation) of need be. It’s not a lie. Although they still want only black, BLM, Dems running the counties.
Some of the pink-haired lady pedes can get the job done too. Go ahead Dems, make assumptions.
I am or was a Democrat, I am the correct color. I am a short drive to Milwaukee. In fact I've thought about working my way up through the Democrat ranks over the next decade to aide our cause in the long run.
take one for the team
I sincerely wish you the best of luck, friend. But at my age, I don't have decades to wait.
The dominion machines, software and manipulation are the biggest issues. Judges won't hear complaints.
Then we ride out on Election Day early and take every machine load em up and dump them in the water, just walk in and hand truck em out
this is more hopium for 2024 hoping for things that wont happen
Doom harder
And we're going to wait until 2024 to take things into our own hands... why?
22
Today if you k ow their location
Oh i get it
Register as dems, and bring the entire rotten house down from inside
Register Democrat to sell it
And when you're silenced, forced out of the counting room, threatened with arrest, attacked, deplatformed, and doxxed like all of the conservatives had happen since November?
Then what?
No, I'm asking honestly. Then what?
They don't think that far ahead.
sToP dOoMiNg. VoTe 2024!
Stop memeing and give me a serious answer.
Then what?
band together as communities and stop complying
And then what? They'll just throw your votes out.
You don't get it. I don't think there's any point continuing, if that's all you have. You either can't understand, or won't.
I didnt say anything about voting...
Then you're really delusional. The time for that passed by already.
non-compliance time passed? well then pack your bags and emmigrate, better to flee the sinking ship.
None of them are thinking. It’s still 2014 in some of these people’s minds.
I bet they’ll even try to present the videos to Tucker. Maybe Laura Ingrahm will be interested too.
Shit, go on Bill O’Reilly’s podcast. Maybe the 3 boomers that listen to him will do something.
Hannity will have the answer, after this ad break...
Ha! It’s amazing the number of folks that don’t understand that “voting is dead,” is not hyperbole.
They can't, or won't, see the bigger picture. They still think observers have any power, but this election proved they don't.
The entire election process is compromised, corrupt, and controlled by dems. Remember all the hearings by election committees, run by dems? How all polling stations are run by dems? How all state election officials are dems? How so many DA's are Soros puppets who refused to act? How many police departments who refused to act? Election officials defied the SCOTUS. All covered by a fifth column media.
We have to break ALL of that to even dream of an honest election. Good luck, because this is Post-America, where laws are what Democrats decide they are.
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Absolutely Yes!
Folks we have been set back. We do still have things we can do!
Not "giving up" has nothing to do with whether or not Trump or someone else sits in the white house. Do you believe this is bigger than him now? Get involved locally.
It is the only way.
Wear one of those "VOTE" face masks.
Ugh I don’t even wanna think about scamdemic part II 🙄
Yes, in fact major flare ups are expected in 2022 and 2024.
"Pandemic 2" is coming according to Bill Gates.
Unfortunately I don’t live in a shithole state so I can’t do this. I am pretty certain they recruited their poll workers from the BLM rallies.
Theres fraud in red states. Watch your primaries. Carefully.
Infiltration always works better than cooperation, that much is abundantly clear. You will unfortunately have to betray yourself in the process to truly infiltrate.
i will go full tranny if that lets me save America
I bet you really would too sweatie
Work less.
Spend more time in local politics.
Good men need to go into that scum sucking profession.
"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."
what’s the point? Doesn’t matter how many people are watching with dominion. Votes don’t matter anymore.We’re closer to being a banana republic than Europe. They still allow their populists and conservatives to win if they’re far ahead and it would be too obvious if they stole the election. Here the left will steal the election right in front of our eyes no matter how big the landslide is on the right and the right will help them do it.
Dominion employees reading this are laughing uncontrollably after reading this.
Counting anything is not going to matter is someone can remote in and electronically change the vote. None of it will matter though bc if we go true democracy then that large group of stupid ppl will be the most dangerous thing- especially if it comes down to voting to throw you in reeducation camps for supporting Trump!! Woot Democracy!!!
WE COUGHT THEM HOW WOULD THIS CHANGE ANYTHING
we won't catch them, we will help them very very poorly and destroy them from within and get them busted in the process or worse
They were busted. No one cared.
Honestly does anyone believe if bizzaro world stays in effect we would ever have an election again? If there was one don't you think it would be a dog and pony show to keep the sheep asleep? I sure as hell am not going to delude myself that life will resume to a semblance of what it once was. THIS IS OUR ALAMO!!!! THIS IS OUR LAST STAND!! HOLD THE LINE PEDES AND STAND FIRM IN THE KNOWLEDGE WE WILL PREVAIL!!
There is never going to be another election.
There are no people counting anything.
There are people feeding the machines.... but those people all need to be onboard with the fraud, otherwise they wouldn't be allowed near the machines.
What we need is more hidden cameras during the meetings deciding how to cheat.
2a) There is only one way to fix this issue... 2b) You know what it is.
EC is gone, doesnt matter
"we are gonna win a war by watching them do fraud from 30 feet" That's you, that's what you're saying. I'm all for a war, but not watching the left cuck votes
This is a battle if not won now, will cost us the war. The war is over on the 20th because they will fix the glitch to ensure something like President Trump never happens again.
I'm already pretending to be a democrat. If I can't fight against them, I'll fight them inside.
Listen up pedes, we got to rethink what we know.
People DID do this. They legit only hired BLM activists, progressive ideologues though. There was never a real hiring process where the fraud went down in these corrupt cities.
IT IS NOT ENOUGH THAT WE SIMPLY APPLY TO BE A POLL WORKER. WE HAVE TO BEGIN BY JOINING THEIR GROUPS (political, social, businesses) AND GET INTO THEIR CIRCLES OF INFLUENCE. Never expose yourselves either but if you want to be able to stop the voting fraud, we’ve got to be hired and make them think, we are one of them. Once that happens, we control elections and bring back election integrity again.
That is what I am going to be doing. It has to be a bottom-up dismantling.
Say what you will about this faggots who stole the election but they knew what they were doing, had the money to do it, and didn’t care about playing nice. It’s long past time we start doing some the same things if we ever hope to keep our country.
We’ve got to literally create our own internet as well with new ISPs, new media and tech industry (e.g. RSBN and OANN), new platforms, new search engines, new social networks. You name it, we’ve got to do it.
Once these two things are done, we can take back our country by whatever means necessary. Whether that he by force or by politics.
I'm sure they will trust the straight white men with their super important mission to steal elections so they can implement their New Racial Order.
I mean, you can be condescending about it but I am not talking about some chalked up bullshit.
There are hundreds of progressive groups and organizations all over the US, particularly in places like the bay area, portland, etc.
Just being in outer circles of these groups, reveals of a lot stuff regarding intentions, motives, and what the narrative will be. Already have an ear to wall in several of these, but I am getting involved in others.
Also, you'd be surprised at their eagerness to accept someone who is openly self-loathing about their 'whiteness' and how they "know" that their "white skin is seen as an assault on those of color".
These people are not nearly as smart as they think they are. They are not stupid either, but many of these young ideology driven, messianic-complex ridden, political activists types love it when others see them as a "leader for change" or whatever they want to tell themselves.
Regardless, the cultural shift we've caused over the past 4 years won't mean shit unless people start being real about we are facing here. Enough giving ground and expecting dishonest selfish politicians to play fair and nice like the right has been doing for decades.
Sooooo we should all switch to the democratic party and destroy them from within?
Moonbat Democrat in the Primary, anyone else in the General.
This especially non-white pedes. Especially pedes with a foreign accent.
Remember the legislature testimony of the only GOP observer to no be kicked out from that her precinct. She said they all assumed she was a Democrat because she wasn't white. Use their racism against them.
there will be no Trump supporters left for the next election, the dems will have purged us out.
stop dooming we have a country to save Jack
Hahahaha. Just like building our own platform if we don't like it? If we don't get this country back within a month, there's no more peace
Too little. Too late.
Good luck, you have to be black to by a counter.
You really think Trump supporters didn't try? They HAND CHOSE who would count. People they knew they could rely on.
It's over, we'll never win an election again. Stop kidding yourselves. Did you already forget what just happened?
It's a club. We aren't in it. You missed the memo? They don't let outsiders in.
Why be honest if they are cheating? Its time to shed the GOPe "we are better than that" crap. This is war, and its time to fight to win. It doesn't matter how honest and correct we are if they are going to cheat themselves into control any way.
Particularly in Atlanta, Milwaukee, Detroit, and Philadelphia.
pick a city and go for it we have 24 months till the next election cycle
Eh, you have 8 days to get this done or there will never be another free election for the rest of your life. The people will never vote again, because the machines will do your voting for you.
I love that you're optimistic enough to believe in fair elections. That's cute.
Stock up on purple hair dye and start gaining weight now so you will be ready to go undercover as a liberal.
Its cute how you think theres ever going to be another honest election again.
Ive got my plans for how to resist this illegitimate takeover, but by all means keep believing you can fix a broken system through the same broken system.
They just stole the presidency, all bets are off
You have to be black to work in the precincts where the most fraud took place. They only hire people who can point at you and say "racist!!!".
Meanwhile I'm over here researching how to cancel my voter registration.
Doomer message stickied with less than 400 upboats. This board is under shill control.
how do you volunteer to be a counter at 3 am when they said they would stop counting?
HOW THE F**K DO ALL OUR VOTES GET HANDLED BY A BUNCH OF CRIMINALS!!??!!??
I’m far behind enemy lines.
Many blue states only allow you to vote in the primary for your own party. Register Dem is doubly valuable.
Can screw with primaries and count votes.