The only way he could ever be redeemed is if Trump himself comes out and tells us that Pence was a double agent in the coup in order to show the world how bad things really are.
That's literally the only way he can be un-Judas'd.
Judas was playing his part. An old Polish priest at my church once pointed out that Judas' greatest sin was not his betrayal, but his rejection of God and any possible redemption when he committed suicide.
Even for Judas, the way was not closed until he closed it himself.
My old pastor and I would talk a lot after I got kicked out of church. He had a lot of progressive views about religion but never showed them inside the church. He had the thought that, because it had to happen, it wasn't even truly Judas himself that betrayed Jesus because it was part of God's plan. He thought that once Judas was himself again, that's when he felt the crushing remorse of his betrayal, and even that his suicide would've been forgiven because of the immense shame and sadness he felt that wasn't his to carry.
I'm running out of hopium but this was my first thought after reading his letter on why he wasn't going to interfere in the count. Look who exposed themselves as traitors right afterwards that many thought were solid Trump supporters. Look how McConnel has finally taken off his mask. Pray that the military is still on Trumps side because if they are also corrupt then if biden really does get in we are screwed. If biden is allowed to take office but the military is not corrupt then nearly all the damage he does can be reversed because to really enforce their plans to take over the country would involve a military actively ready to toss out the constitution and let the commies win. I cannot in any universe see that happening.
I have a few friends in the military (2 marine corp/3 army). They are PISSED about the FRAUD & COUP. A majority of military is MAGA! This I do know. Gives me hope.
That's not true. They can (and indeed must) ignore any unconstitutional order. That's up to the judgment of the commanders. They hate Trump so you can imagine how they'll decide. What's Trump going to do if they refuse? Take it to the Courts or Congress? HA.
I'm talking about Uncle Sniffy (as CinC) calling upon the Military to act if he we're use the IA.
It would be a lawful order (aside from the fact Uncle Sniffy isn't actually the true President of this Republic, but since most of Congress were fraudulently elected, the point is, sadly, moot).
Also, which commanders are you talking about.
The Generals are usually deep state hacks, but the majority of Cols and Staff Officers are generally based.
You'd need to clear decks at least down to and including O-6. And be looking very carefully at O-5.
If you really wanted a mutiny, just arrest all the E-4s. Pretty sure they all have something on their pers files that would justify arrest and court martial.
The military is not on Trump's side. The enlisted guys are probably mostly on Trump's side, but the officers are not, and its gets more opposed to Trump the higher you go. Anyone who has made a career of the military is too used to the big defense contractor kickbacks and the US super-cop koolaid. They hate Trump not wanting to use the military to blow up third world shitholes.
If Trump called for the military they would not answer. The commanders would ignore it and most enlisted grunts aren't going AWOL because Trump asked for them. Nobody is sticking their own neck out if they don't think a sizable group will follow.
I would have been fine with Pence invoking the 25th amendment, declaring and signing the insurrection act and have the The Don resume power. The 25th doesnt out a President, he just has to "fight it" and prove he is capable.
That's not how the IA works. You pedes need to wake up already. You invoke the IA, not sign it, and it's extremely limited in it's scope. You need a ongoing rebellion going on to do it, and the only ongoing rebellion going on is in Portland, and NYC if antifa is still chimping out.
What's happening now is disgusting, but it's 100% legal per the rules of the Congress and the Constitution. And the IA has no authority over it.
Just need to play by the Alinsky rules and make the left live by their own rules. Fraud is legal now. Every single person here needs to volunteer to be a poll worker, a ballot counter, or an election board member. We need to be part of the system to stop enemy cheating or at least make sure we're cheating just as much.
They might've been if the law was challenged at the time it was instituted rather than post-election. A lot of what happened in the 2020 election is attributable to bad lawfare.
The only way he could ever be redeemed is if Trump himself comes out and tells us that Pence was a double agent in the coup in order to show the world how bad things really are.
That's literally the only way he can be un-Judas'd.
Judas was playing his part. An old Polish priest at my church once pointed out that Judas' greatest sin was not his betrayal, but his rejection of God and any possible redemption when he committed suicide.
Even for Judas, the way was not closed until he closed it himself.
Yes.
Based
I would have loved to have met that priest.
My old pastor and I would talk a lot after I got kicked out of church. He had a lot of progressive views about religion but never showed them inside the church. He had the thought that, because it had to happen, it wasn't even truly Judas himself that betrayed Jesus because it was part of God's plan. He thought that once Judas was himself again, that's when he felt the crushing remorse of his betrayal, and even that his suicide would've been forgiven because of the immense shame and sadness he felt that wasn't his to carry.
Ahem... Jesus said that Judas was a devil from the beginning.
Ooo. Touché.
YEAAASSS! BURN!
I'm running out of hopium but this was my first thought after reading his letter on why he wasn't going to interfere in the count. Look who exposed themselves as traitors right afterwards that many thought were solid Trump supporters. Look how McConnel has finally taken off his mask. Pray that the military is still on Trumps side because if they are also corrupt then if biden really does get in we are screwed. If biden is allowed to take office but the military is not corrupt then nearly all the damage he does can be reversed because to really enforce their plans to take over the country would involve a military actively ready to toss out the constitution and let the commies win. I cannot in any universe see that happening.
I have a few friends in the military (2 marine corp/3 army). They are PISSED about the FRAUD & COUP. A majority of military is MAGA! This I do know. Gives me hope.
Trump loses: “You have to show them the fraud.”
Trump gets thrown in prison:”You have to show them the betrayals.”
Bread lines and lawlessness in America: “You have to show them the communism.”
As CinC, the military is bound to do his bidding.
There is very little wiggle room in this. The only way they can ignore his order is through a Coup d'état.
It would not be peaceful, as there are far too many ass-kissing Obama era Generals in charge.
My $0.2
That's not true. They can (and indeed must) ignore any unconstitutional order. That's up to the judgment of the commanders. They hate Trump so you can imagine how they'll decide. What's Trump going to do if they refuse? Take it to the Courts or Congress? HA.
I'm talking about Uncle Sniffy (as CinC) calling upon the Military to act if he we're use the IA.
It would be a lawful order (aside from the fact Uncle Sniffy isn't actually the true President of this Republic, but since most of Congress were fraudulently elected, the point is, sadly, moot).
Also, which commanders are you talking about.
The Generals are usually deep state hacks, but the majority of Cols and Staff Officers are generally based.
He would need to arrest as many generals as possible all at once using spec ops. Then hope the troops under them submit.
You'd need to clear decks at least down to and including O-6. And be looking very carefully at O-5.
If you really wanted a mutiny, just arrest all the E-4s. Pretty sure they all have something on their pers files that would justify arrest and court martial.
The military is not on Trump's side. The enlisted guys are probably mostly on Trump's side, but the officers are not, and its gets more opposed to Trump the higher you go. Anyone who has made a career of the military is too used to the big defense contractor kickbacks and the US super-cop koolaid. They hate Trump not wanting to use the military to blow up third world shitholes.
If Trump called for the military they would not answer. The commanders would ignore it and most enlisted grunts aren't going AWOL because Trump asked for them. Nobody is sticking their own neck out if they don't think a sizable group will follow.
I would have been fine with Pence invoking the 25th amendment, declaring and signing the insurrection act and have the The Don resume power. The 25th doesnt out a President, he just has to "fight it" and prove he is capable.
That's not how the IA works. You pedes need to wake up already. You invoke the IA, not sign it, and it's extremely limited in it's scope. You need a ongoing rebellion going on to do it, and the only ongoing rebellion going on is in Portland, and NYC if antifa is still chimping out.
What's happening now is disgusting, but it's 100% legal per the rules of the Congress and the Constitution. And the IA has no authority over it.
If rules would still matter, half of PA votes would have been thrown away because they violated their own constitution.
Just need to play by the Alinsky rules and make the left live by their own rules. Fraud is legal now. Every single person here needs to volunteer to be a poll worker, a ballot counter, or an election board member. We need to be part of the system to stop enemy cheating or at least make sure we're cheating just as much.
Trump won PA by a landslide, ask anyone who lives there.
They might've been if the law was challenged at the time it was instituted rather than post-election. A lot of what happened in the 2020 election is attributable to bad lawfare.
Plus the military would just tell you to fuck off if you tried to use the IA in that way.
Yep. If the House barricaded themselves into the chamber and refused to acknowledge the winner of an election, you might have a case for using the IA.
Is not a coup technically a rebellion?
Coup is a specific term for using the military. Rebellion is us.
lol the IA is going to be used against us like six seconds after Biden walks into the Oval Office.
So the certifying of the fraudulent election thus committing treason isnt “rebellion”?
Indeed.
Mmm I so much want this to happen